.17 or .22

[Millet 4,497]

All the .17hmr's that where ever made should all be recalled and melted down to produce more .22 rimmies..

[paulus 26]

All the .17hmr's that where ever made should all be recalled and melted down to produce more .22 rimmies..

now your talking

[shootlodge 145]

Stick to standard velocity ammo ,( 1150/1250 fps approx ) bin the sub sonic trash & you will find the rimmy a very versatile tool.

[riflehunter583 58]

i cannot see any reason to buy a .17hmr when a good.22lr can fire nice quiet subs and nice loud cheep hv rounds both reasonably accurately.

 

i'm way to tight to spend £12 a box on 50 hmr rounds the way i go through shots with my rimmy.

 

if you really need something for foxing and deer etc get a nice centre fire.

 

a big big plus for the humble .22lr is the CHOICE to shoot subs and hv rounds just by reloading the mag anywhere any time.

 

my neighbour (friend) has a farm next to me and he messaged me on facebook asking if i had been shooting an antiaircraft gun 2 days ago. people are bother about noise and so is the fodder do yourself a favour get a .22lr and if you need it get a nice centre fire for larger marks.

 

 

 

If that’s not convinced you remember that using a .22lr will make you a better shot and force you to shoot using better technique (good follow through, squeezing the trigger, developing range estimation). .22 are less forgiving so force you to shoot better everyone should have a good .22 training gun to keep there eye in.

 

 

 

I’ve got more good reasons if that’s not convinced you pm me.

[tegater 789]

i cannot see any reason to buy a .17hmr when a good.22lr can fire nice quiet subs and nice loud cheep hv rounds both reasonably accurately.

 

i'm way to tight to spend £12 a box on 50 hmr rounds the way i go through shots with my rimmy.

 

if you really need something for foxing and deer etc get a nice centre fire.

 

a big big plus for the humble .22lr is the CHOICE to shoot subs and hv rounds just by reloading the mag anywhere any time.

 

my neighbour (friend) has a farm next to me and he messaged me on facebook asking if i had been shooting an antiaircraft gun 2 days ago. people are bother about noise and so is the fodder do yourself a favour get a .22lr and if you need it get a nice centre fire for larger marks.

 

 

If that’s not convinced you remember that using a .22lr will make you a better shot and force you to shoot using better technique (good follow through, squeezing the trigger, developing range estimation). .22 are less forgiving so force you to shoot better everyone should have a good .22 training gun to keep there eye in.

 

 

I’ve got more good reasons if that’s not convinced you pm me.

The most naive post on rifle shooting I have read for ages, haha. How posts like this will come back to haunt you.

[riflehunter583 58]

i cannot see any reason to buy a .17hmr when a good.22lr can fire nice quiet subs and nice loud cheep hv rounds both reasonably accurately.

 

i'm way to tight to spend £12 a box on 50 hmr rounds the way i go through shots with my rimmy.

 

if you really need something for foxing and deer etc get a nice centre fire.

 

a big big plus for the humble .22lr is the CHOICE to shoot subs and hv rounds just by reloading the mag anywhere any time.

 

my neighbour (friend) has a farm next to me and he messaged me on facebook asking if i had been shooting an antiaircraft gun 2 days ago. people are bother about noise and so is the fodder do yourself a favour get a .22lr and if you need it get a nice centre fire for larger marks.

 

 

 

If that's not convinced you remember that using a .22lr will make you a better shot and force you to shoot using better technique (good follow through, squeezing the trigger, developing range estimation). .22 are less forgiving so force you to shoot better everyone should have a good .22 training gun to keep there eye in.

 

 

 

I've got more good reasons if that's not convinced you pm me.

The most naive post on rifle shooting I have read for ages, haha. How posts like this will come back to haunt you.

 

why do you say that?

[tegater 789]

I don't know where to start, but the mention of deer in a post re .22 and .17 hmr is just a start.

 

Subs and hv, yea ok!

 

.22 make you a better shot! Haha, techniqe makes you a better shot.

 

I'm working away at the min, so cannot reply in full from a laptop, but hopefully you get the jist.

[riflehunter583 58]

I don't know where to start, but the mention of deer in a post re .22 and .17 hmr is just a start.

"its a forum you muppet anyone can say what they want! is it illegal for me to mention the word deer on this forum? AND i was clearly recomending a centre fire for fox, and deer, whats wrong with that the police recomeend this, the basc recomend this. whats are you on about tegar??"

 

Subs and hv, yea ok!

"mate you shoot far to much hmr to know what your talking about when it comes to .22lr. I get resonable results with cci velocitors and eley subs 50 - 100 - 130 y with my .22lr. just bescause you cannot get this with your 22 is not my fault. if you don't belive me you can watch my u tube video shooting subs from.22lr or come down and have a go with my .22lr yourself"

 

.22 make you a better shot! Haha, techniqe makes you a better shot.

"what are you on about tegater! the first gun an instructor gives you is usually a .22lr hence a good training gun."

even a guy that came to buy something off me the other day said this from his experince of shooting 308 500 - 1000 yards at bisley! and many others from different disciplins over the years have said the same. maybe you spend to much time on your own in the hills! the trap time on a .22lr using subs is much longer than a hmr or centre fire hence less forgiving if the shooter fails to follow through correctly, you know right after the shot. its a fact. i'm shocked given your posts you did not know that. in a centre fire or hmr at 2500fps + the trap time is much faster and the bullet has left the barrel quickly. thats just one reason why the .22lr is less forgiving and forces you to follow through correctly or you keep missing. it forces you to improve your technique. also the drop over distance forces you to learn more about range finding or once again you keep missing until you get it right" hence again a good training gun" also a good trainning gun needs to be cheap to run as the best way to train someone to shoot better is to practice alot shooting alot, cheap rounds allows this. the only reason I have improved in my personal shooting is through lots of rounds shot down range. if you were ever in army cadets the first gun you get to shoot is a .22lr, the first time i joined a gun club the instructor handed me a .22lr. why was this because they though the .22lr is a good trianing gun. it also forces you to learn field craft getting close to what your hunting, again improviong your field craft and hunting skills. thats why i said .22lrs are good training guns"

 

I'm working away at the min, so cannot reply in full from a laptop, but hopefully you get the jist.

i think your away with the fairies on this one my comments to your post are in ""

Edited August 26, 2012 by riflehunter583

[tegater 789]

I don't know where to start, but the mention of deer in a post re .22 and .17 hmr is just a start.

"its a forum you muppet anyone can say what they want!"

 

Subs and hv, yea ok!

"mate you shoot far to much hmr to know what your talking about when it comes to .22lr."

 

.22 make you a better shot! Haha, techniqe makes you a better shot.

"no wrong again what are you on about tegater! the first gun an instructor gives you is usually a .22lr hence a good training gun."

even a guy that came to buy something off me the other day said this! and many others from different disciplins over the years. maybe you spend to much time on your own in the hills!

 

I'm working away at the min, so cannot reply in full from a laptop, but hopefully you get the jist.

i think your away with the fairies on this one my comments to your post are in ""

Ok pal, I don't think I need to say any more, you have done enough.

 

For your info, I use a whole variety of calibres in both a professional and sporting capacity and I love the .22, but it will not do, on the moors what I want it to do. When I am driving or walking around and I see a crow at 150, then I want that crow dead. A .22 simply cannot do this consistently, unless you are still asleep.

 

Tell me about the deer though that is really interesting?.

 

I will reply tomoz though as I am off out now.

[riflehunter583 58]

I don't know where to start, but the mention of deer in a post re .22 and .17 hmr is just a start.

"its a forum you muppet anyone can say what they want!"

 

Subs and hv, yea ok!

"mate you shoot far to much hmr to know what your talking about when it comes to .22lr."

 

.22 make you a better shot! Haha, techniqe makes you a better shot.

"no wrong again what are you on about tegater! the first gun an instructor gives you is usually a .22lr hence a good training gun."

even a guy that came to buy something off me the other day said this! and many others from different disciplins over the years. maybe you spend to much time on your own in the hills!

 

I'm working away at the min, so cannot reply in full from a laptop, but hopefully you get the jist.

i think your away with the fairies on this one my comments to your post are in ""

Ok pal, I don't think I need to say any more, you have done enough.

 

For your info, I use a whole variety of calibres in both a professional and sporting capacity and I love the .22, but it will not do, on the moors what I want it to do. When I am driving or walking around and I see a crow at 150, then I want that crow dead. A .22 simply cannot do this consistently, unless you are still asleep.

 

Tell me about the deer though that is really interesting?.

 

I will reply tomoz though as I am off out now.

 

read what i have said in the "" lad

[The Seeker 3,048]

This topic has been done to death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everyone knows .22rim fire is better laugh;

[paulus 26]

This topic has been done to death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everyone knows .22rim fire is better laugh;

i concur

[pothunter 33]

a .22 rim is probably good enough for most folk as they cant hit much over 100 yards. lol

[paulus 26]

a .22 rim is probably good enough for most folk as they cant hit much over 100 yards. lol

i carnt even see 100yrds

[tegater 789]

I don't know where to start, but the mention of deer in a post re .22 and .17 hmr is just a start.

"its a forum you muppet anyone can say what they want!"

 

Subs and hv, yea ok!

"mate you shoot far to much hmr to know what your talking about when it comes to .22lr."

 

.22 make you a better shot! Haha, techniqe makes you a better shot.

"no wrong again what are you on about tegater! the first gun an instructor gives you is usually a .22lr hence a good training gun."

even a guy that came to buy something off me the other day said this! and many others from different disciplins over the years. maybe you spend to much time on your own in the hills!

 

I'm working away at the min, so cannot reply in full from a laptop, but hopefully you get the jist.

i think your away with the fairies on this one my comments to your post are in ""

Ok pal, I don't think I need to say any more, you have done enough.

 

For your info, I use a whole variety of calibres in both a professional and sporting capacity and I love the .22, but it will not do, on the moors what I want it to do. When I am driving or walking around and I see a crow at 150, then I want that crow dead. A .22 simply cannot do this consistently, unless you are still asleep.

 

Tell me about the deer though that is really interesting?.

 

I will reply tomoz though as I am off out now.

 

read what i have said in the "" lad

Riflehunter. I saw your video when you first released it and I am not to big to say well done, I am impressed with that sort of skill, as I am with some of the videos that Zini puts up.

 

I am fully aware of the internal ballistics and for that reason, I started my lads off on an air rifle, and not the .22 or hmr. A springer is a real test of "good technique", but it is the technique that has to be good. The rifle itself doesn't make you a good shot. I think on that point we are agreed.

 

Subs and HV I agreed with you on, hence my saying yea Ok.

 

Name calling and insinuations I don't agree with you on, and I will not lower myself to that, as many will know.

 

Being able to "say what you want" is very true on a forum, but it goes against the grain with me when it distorts the post, as that then de- values the post.