Big warrens???

[socks 32,253]

So are you now saying you DO have ferreting dogs that work the warren ( I am sure you wrote somewhere your dogs had to much sight hound blood that's why you keep them on slips ??? ) maybe the post has been removed ???

 

Gas and phostoxin are the same thing it's just that phostoxin comes in a Pellet form ... And how could you viably work wise or financially wise has a 500 hole warren ... Apart from that it just wouldn't work on a 500 hole warren BUT as always you know more than the rest of us ... Cookie I am not deliberately gunning for you just the things you are saying do not make sense and are not practical in the real world of professional ferreting no matter how good an idea they seem when typing on a computer ...

 

Now all nonsense aside I will give you an open invite to come down to Salisbury plain where we can work massive or small warrens you can decide ... You can prove me wrong and I will readily come back on here and admitt I was wrong about you ... And I promise I won't lump you lol ... I am quite a nice fellow in real life honest ......

[BEARINATOR 2,869]

So are you now saying you DO have ferreting dogs that work the warren ( I am sure you wrote somewhere your dogs had to much sight hound blood that's why you keep them on slips ??? ) maybe the post has been removed ???

 

 

Socks I have seen pics of cookies dogs working and they were off the slip mate

[socks 32,253]

ah but did he say they were HIS ???????????

[BEARINATOR 2,869]

ah but did he say they were HIS ???????????

 

Yes, I'll get a pic off pigeon watch for you as he is banned off there

[BEARINATOR 2,869]

 

One of Cookies dogs working off the lead, R.I.P as he lost it earlier this year but looked a nice type

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

So are you now saying you DO have ferreting dogs that work the warren ( I am sure you wrote somewhere your dogs had to much sight hound blood that's why you keep them on slips ??? ) maybe the post has been removed ???

 

Gas and phostoxin are the same thing it's just that phostoxin comes in a Pellet form ... And how could you viably work wise or financially wise has a 500 hole warren ... Apart from that it just wouldn't work on a 500 hole warren BUT as always you know more than the rest of us ... Cookie I am not deliberately gunning for you just the things you are saying do not make sense and are not practical in the real world of professional ferreting no matter how good an idea they seem when typing on a computer ...

 

Now all nonsense aside I will give you an open invite to come down to Salisbury plain where we can work massive or small warrens you can decide ... You can prove me wrong and I will readily come back on here and admitt I was wrong about you ... And I promise I won't lump you lol ... I am quite a nice fellow in real life honest ......

 

To go though your points

 

On editing posts removing them etc I never edit posts or remove them if I did I write the reason why I have done unlike some who removes whole replies EG about 5 or 6 yesterday of this very topic there choice but I like to think I would stand by my replies .

 

Gas EG cymag was pre phostoxin and I was just letting the old days get confused with the new pellet form phostoxin as we always gassed ,never really used the tablets ,TBH in our sandy area it not very effective as the sand is too permable .

 

I have plenty of my own without going back to the plain even though it would be nice as always loved the place few places in southern england so wild and the erie imber village .

 

Its all left slighty a bad taste for me as for some reason when ever I type stuff I get jumped on it could be me but rereading my replies and other not just yours I cant see why .

 

Any way good luck enjoy the season and no hard feeelings ATB Cookie

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

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Hope you didn't mind me putting the pic up as I knew you worked yours off the lead

[Guest Leveller]

Its all left slighty a bad taste for me as for some reason when ever I type stuff I get jumped on it could be me but rereading my replies and other not just yours I cant see why

 

Nobody is jumping on you don't take it so personaly it's a discussion board you type a few words other people read them they agree or disagree then decide if they want to air their own views.

 

I think confusion arose after you wrote this statement

 

But each dog is very diffrent we can strive for certain traits but quite often certain dogs will just not ever be a dog that can be left to roam free over warrens .

 

Some of my warrens are 500 holers and having two dogs held back to slip is far better than even two good ferreting dogs over the warren as they just cannot postion themselfs in the right place .

 

So you're now saying YOU don't work dogs on slips then, why not? if as you stated in the quoted post it's better to have them in slips why would YOU work them loose? and if you don't have them on a lead why the hell are you typing about it and sticking up for the messers that do?

 

Now I'm confused

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

I am saying I have mates whos dogs purley lamp who are very sight based and I have seen them work on slips on large buries smaller buries I tend to work with the wife and dad only if we are tacling large warrens we get a few mates in with there dogs who are as much use as a choclate fireguard loose but can be effective on slips in the right places if coneys slip the many purse nets or run round the dogleg in the long nets they tend to make a bid for freedom across open land and cease the hole hoping tendancy that they do mostly on large warrens.

 

Hope this clear ATB Cookie

[nothernlite 18,089]

nice looking dog you had cookie atb

[whippet 99 2,613]

I am saying I have mates whos dogs purley lamp who are very sight based and I have seen them work on slips on large buries smaller buries I tend to work with the wife and dad only if we are tacling large warrens we get a few mates in with there dogs who are as much use as a choclate fireguard loose but can be effective on slips in the right places if coneys slip the many purse nets or run round the dogleg in the long nets they tend to make a bid for freedom across open land and cease the hole hoping tendancy that they do mostly on large warrens.

 

Hope this clear ATB Cookie

yeah thats cleared it up... you have totally contradicted your self .................you said on 500 hole warrens two dogs held on slips are better than two good ferreting dogs working loose over the warren.....................why would you state this if you work your dogs loose.!

just out of curiosity how many ferreting dogs you got at the present.?

theres two conclusions to my theory

1) you havent done as much ferreting with dogs as you make out

2) you wrote your statement without thinking...............(which happens)

if it is theory two .........just be a man and say i got it wrong ............................

your not doing your self no favours ........................it looks like your making it up to please certain parties...............

i wish you all the best for the season...........and i would of snapped there hand off to go out on the plains...........that would be some cracking sport

[Guest Leveller]

I am saying I have mates whos dogs purley lamp who are very sight based and I have seen them work on slips on large buries smaller buries I tend to work with the wife and dad only if we are tacling large warrens we get a few mates in with there dogs who are as much use as a choclate fireguard loose but can be effective on slips in the right places if coneys slip the many purse nets or run round the dogleg in the long nets they tend to make a bid for freedom across open land and cease the hole hoping tendancy that they do mostly on large warrens.

 

Hope this clear ATB Cookie

 

So do you think now it would be fair to say that your mates dogs in slips aren't ferreting dogs then and you're original statement about them being better than two ferreting dogs isn't quite right? or do you still honestly believe that these "chocolate firegaurds" are more use than two finely honed specialist ferreting dogs.

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

I am saying I have mates whos dogs purley lamp who are very sight based and I have seen them work on slips on large buries smaller buries I tend to work with the wife and dad only if we are tacling large warrens we get a few mates in with there dogs who are as much use as a choclate fireguard loose but can be effective on slips in the right places if coneys slip the many purse nets or run round the dogleg in the long nets they tend to make a bid for freedom across open land and cease the hole hoping tendancy that they do mostly on large warrens.

 

Hope this clear ATB Cookie

yeah thats cleared it up... you have totally contradicted your self .................you said on 500 hole warrens two dogs held on slips are better than two good ferreting dogs working loose over the warren.....................why would you state this if you work your dogs loose.!

just out of curiosity how many ferreting dogs you got at the present.?

theres two conclusions to my theory

1) you havent done as much ferreting with dogs as you make out

2) you wrote your statement without thinking...............(which happens)

if it is theory two .........just be a man and say i got it wrong ............................

your not doing your self no favours ........................it looks like your making it up to please certain parties...............

 

 

Or the way I type and explain things is not 100% clear I not going to go over it again and again to justfy myself but if anybody knows me will know than a few seasons at this game there is no contridication just diffrent situs require diffrent approaches when ferretting.

 

Its not set in stone the most the reason all this came about is that Mattski said he held his dog on a slip and was drawn over the coals by numerous members ,all I said was that is not as bad as its sounds and that in certain situs that sort of dog can be used .

 

I think in true THL its all got a little confused and TBH who gives a feck how I work my dogs or pugs I was just saying the way to fert and work dogs is not rigid .

 

The last thing I do whippet is say things to please certain parties otherwise I would not be typing endless replies to this thread on this subject .

 

Yes without question there not ferretting dogs but there are many dogs who are taking ferretting that are not text book dogs does not make them any less useful in certain situs so long as they got basis training and stock broken etc.

 

ATB Cookie

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

nice looking dog you had cookie atb

 

Thank you

here my one of my other mutts a bit of both steady on fert and the lamp