Rifle for foxing and roe

[paulus 26]

270 is a very good round and the guns are out of fashion at the minute, so cheap to purchase

[trenchfoot 4,243]

6.5 Swedish for me.It will shoot light and heavy bullets well regardless of barrel twist rate. Not something that can be said for .243.

 

Some areas are a little sniffy about .243 etc as a fox and roe rifle, if fox is your primary work. But are far more likely to allow it as a primarily roe rifle with the occasional fox work. worth remembering when filling in in the application

[3175darren 1,100]

270 is a very good round and the guns are out of fashion at the minute, so cheap to purchase

Spot on, you can load these right down to 90 grain and paulus is right very reasonably priced at the moment,

[snatchbullet 55]

i use a 223 for foxes in england and does the job fine... but also use a 22250 in scotland for roe and fox and is also a very good rifle for long range shooting very accurate bit of kit. but you never know if you will want to shoot some thing bigger then a 243 or a 270. a sako out the box 270 is a very reliable bit of kit which packs a punch. hope this helps snatch

[shovel leaner 7,650]

You are in scotland right?????? 223 a superb flat shooting round that is ballisticly perfect.Sako 55grn soft point ,PERFECT!!!!!

[Rake aboot 4,935]

You are in scotland right?????? 223 a superb flat shooting round that is ballisticly perfect.Sako 55grn soft point ,PERFECT!!!!!

 

Thats what I intened messing about with with the 222 I just picked up. Sako 55`s. If they work out on roe for, me then the 243 is getting sold. Or swapped for a scope.

[shovel leaner 7,650]

You are in scotland right?????? 223 a superb flat shooting round that is ballisticly perfect.Sako 55grn soft point ,PERFECT!!!!!

 

Thats what I intened messing about with with the 222 I just picked up. Sako 55`s. If they work out on roe for, me then the 243 is getting sold. Or swapped for a scope.

I am in England and so i couldent say from experience but i hear from north of the border that they are fine . Sako 55s in 223 are mustard for foxes and really knock them about .So if i were up north i would take a neck or a head shot if the range was not too great,but expect a bit of damage if you go for the boiler room!!!!!

[Lab 10,979]

You are in scotland right?????? 223 a superb flat shooting round that is ballisticly perfect.Sako 55grn soft point ,PERFECT!!!!!

 

Thats what I intened messing about with with the 222 I just picked up. Sako 55`s. If they work out on roe for, me then the 243 is getting sold. Or swapped for a scope.

Thats exactly what i use in my .222 mate. If your hitting them in the right spot then there not going far......foxes just fold over and dont move.

[3175darren 1,100]

A neck shot is dodgy in my mind with a small caliber like a 223,I think I would go to a bigger load,then neck shots are not so much of a fine line,I have to carefull with that comment I know alot of people have strong veiws on this and this is only my opinion,I always go for engine room unless the situation dictates,

[shovel leaner 7,650]

A neck shot is dodgy in my mind with a small caliber like a 223,I think I would go to a bigger load,then neck shots are not so much of a fine line,I have to carefull with that comment I know alot of people have strong veiws on this and this is only my opinion,I always go for engine room unless the situation dictates,

I know what you are saying Darren,and i agree to a certain extent,If meat damage is not a problem its ok.But what about a game dealer who insists on neck or head shots and penalises you for a damaged carcass?????I know that animal welfair comes first,but if i am in a high seat and set up for a shot i feel confident with a neck shot at a reasonable range,and the advantage is they drop on the spot.Just my opinion.

[3175darren 1,100]

A neck shot is dodgy in my mind with a small caliber like a 223,I think I would go to a bigger load,then neck shots are not so much of a fine line,I have to carefull with that comment I know alot of people have strong veiws on this and this is only my opinion,I always go for engine room unless the situation dictates,

I know what you are saying Darren,and i agree to a certain extent,If meat damage is not a problem its ok.But what about a game dealer who insists on neck or head shots and penalises you for a damaged carcass?????I know that animal welfair comes first,but if i am in a high seat and set up for a shot i feel confident with a neck shot at a reasonable range,and the advantage is they drop on the spot.Just my opinion.

Hi fella my comment is not critisism as such I too have taken neck shots but not very often,and I know game dealers can be funny,

[shovel leaner 7,650]

A neck shot is dodgy in my mind with a small caliber like a 223,I think I would go to a bigger load,then neck shots are not so much of a fine line,I have to carefull with that comment I know alot of people have strong veiws on this and this is only my opinion,I always go for engine room unless the situation dictates,

I know what you are saying Darren,and i agree to a certain extent,If meat damage is not a problem its ok.But what about a game dealer who insists on neck or head shots and penalises you for a damaged carcass?????I know that animal welfair comes first,but if i am in a high seat and set up for a shot i feel confident with a neck shot at a reasonable range,and the advantage is they drop on the spot.Just my opinion.

Hi fella my comment is not critisism as such I too have taken neck shots but not very often,and I know game dealers can be funny,

Hi Darren ,I use a 243 for my stalking,I was just suggesting to the guy in Scotland that he must be prepared for a bit if damage to the meat if decides on a 222 or 223,i have seen less damage from a 308.

[3175darren 1,100]

Worse one I ever saw was shot with a 22-250, mind meat damage can be caused by any round, I use a 6.5x55 nice round never had too much damage with the 140 grains I did try 120 grains and it was terrible with them,I shot 243 for 15 yr and loved the round, 85 grain was the round of my choice for roe, and 75 grain hollow point on foxes,I currently use a 223 on foxes,and like the round I know of people who use them in scotland on deer,with no problems, This whole question of caliber is complex and I am convinced its down to personal preference alone,its an arguement that will rage on for ever,

[Jono Hicks 0]

Although I haven't shot any Roe deer or foxes. Back in New Zealand I have taken many Red and Fallow deer with the .243 with good results. I personally had a good run out of the Hornady 87gr HP projectiles.

[shovel leaner 7,650]

Worse one I ever saw was shot with a 22-250, mind meat damage can be caused by any round, I use a 6.5x55 nice round never had too much damage with the 140 grains I did try 120 grains and it was terrible with them,I shot 243 for 15 yr and loved the round, 85 grain was the round of my choice for roe, and 75 grain hollow point on foxes,I currently use a 223 on foxes,and like the round I know of people who use them in scotland on deer,with no problems, This whole question of caliber is complex and I am convinced its down to personal preference alone,its an arguement that will rage on for ever,

I have had my 243 for about the same time and use 100grain for deer with acceptable meat damage,i also used to use 75grain bergers for foxes but this meant re -zeroing ,I now have a 223 for foxes and love the 55grain sako or normas,i tried home loads but havent been able to improve on them signifigantly.I have heard great things about the 6.5x55 and i think it could well replace my 243 in the future.