tortoise 0 Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 stupid question i have not used chalk ever, does it make a big difference and where do ye get it? Hiya, celt tortoise here, I'm only new but I know a few things about stripping out hard coated dogs. Are you in Ireland too. You can get powdered chalk from most big petstores or a local petshop can order for you, if not try online petshops specialising in show dog supplie. It should be cheap and is handy but I don't use it. Very good is a coarse stripping knife from Mikki, Interpet, your petshop will have to order for you. Am I allowed to mention brand names here? I hope so, too late now but its the business. Have 2 very hairy fell terriers. Hope it helps Quote Link to post
higgins 75 Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 uesd to strip mine by hand a lot,also used stripping combs of various sorts,but to be honest i like to feel what i'm doing,the chalk stuff just dries out the greasy/oily coats on terriers so that it is dry and can be gripped easily,all the best, Higgins. Quote Link to post
jacko 1 Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 HI, YOU CAN GET THE CHALK IN BLOCKS ASWELL , WE GET OURS OFF EBAY USUALY . DEFO MAKES IT EASIER CELT. JACKO. Quote Link to post
Guest jrt Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) ................ Edited January 8, 2009 by jrt Quote Link to post
jacko 1 Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 JRT, WE USE CHALK ON OUR 3 BORDERS , IF THEVE GOT LOADS ON THEM IT JUST BRUSHES OFF ONCE THERE STRIPPED ,NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THERE SKIN MATE . WE JUST LASH A LOAD ON ,RUB IT IN THE COAT A BIT AND START STRIPPING , JUST WORKS FOR US MATE . JACKO . Quote Link to post
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ferret15 0 Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 for those of you looking for a blade like ditch's any tack shop (horse) will have them they are known as sheeding blades in the horse. world cost is aprox £3 and they are a piece of piss to use Quote Link to post
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Guest ripstop Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Er....I've had Norwich & a couple of Borders since'71 & hand-strip.I use a McLellan knife-the fine blade-just because it fit my hand best. STRIPPING takes the TOP COAT-the guard hairs-when they're "blown"- to allow for new coat to come in. Clippering just cuts the old dead coat off & leaves ugly soft crap. Reach down,take a pinch & see that all the color & texture is in the tips of the hair. See why you don't want to cut it? The "loop" thingie is a SHEDDING blade,NOT a stripping knife. It's meant to used like a comb to remove the UNDER COAT. A STRIPPING knife can perform the same service if "combed" through the coat instead of stripping=which is capturing the top coat w/your thumb against the blade & pulling that clump of hair. Always use on a DRY & DIRTY coat! Less mess,you can SEE which coat to pull *&*...WHY bother w/hair you're going to THROW AWAY? Hand-stripping is NOT just for show-dawgs,though of course you MUST strip those breeds that call for a HARD coat,but gives the CORRECT coat for work as well. IVE GOT A PAT WITH A GOOD THICK BROKEN COAT AND WAS WONDERING IF STRIPPING OUT WILL HARDEN OR TIGHTEN HIS COAT ANY SUGGESTIONS A S WOULD BE USING A PROPER STRIPPING COMB CHEERS Quote Link to post
ferret15 0 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) for those of you looking for a blade like ditch's any tack shop (horse) will have them they are known as sheeding blades in the horse. world cost is aprox £3 and they are a piece of piss to use just got the exact same one, different colour, off ebay.. cheers mate for putting a pic up, how do you use it? do ya just drag it through the hair like a comb? :thumbs-up: thats it mate drag theough the hair in the direction it lies pluss if your hand striping use latex gloves as this grips the hair and stops your fingers getting sore Edited June 20, 2007 by ferret15 Quote Link to post
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Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hullo, mate. I believe I remember rightly that the bumph on the card it comes attatched to suggests ye use the big toothed side for a damn good going over and the finer teeth for the Dogs 'more delicate areas'. Personally, on my own Dogs various, I just use the big teeth. As 15 said already, ye simply stroke it down the coat. going with the hair growth direction. No more special technique involved than scratching ye nose. Myself, I only ever use it as a closed loop. Couldn't be arsed with trying to use it like a draw blade. If I haven't already mentioned it - or anyone's missed it where I have; I can't stress too strongly what a good idea it is to take ye Dog to a park, wood, anywhere really that's out of ye own back garden and where people won't mind the fact that ye creating clouds of fur balls that'll blow about in the wind. Maybe my big Dog's just a f*cker or something? But, when I had next door neighbours, I used to stress out terrible as I watched the clouds of his fur blowing over into their garden. But, on the other hand, that just demonstrates the ability of these things to shift that dead hair. Also, if ye have more than one Dog? Do them alone. Put the rest away as ye do one Dog. Craic is that, once they suss out how nice it feels, they'll make f*cking nuisances of themselves trying to push the Dog ye working on away and get under it themselves. Finally, as has been pointed out above also; This isn't necessarily what 'professionals' would consider " Stripping " a Dog anyway. And none of my Dogs have harsh, wirey coats. So f*cking what? Nor has my donkey. I give them all a good doing now and then. They all enjoy it and look better for it. Probably feel better too. So why not just do it, regardless of what it's called or why? " Strip " ye Dog, as and when, by what ever method, if he needs it. But Professional Trainers I know glove brush and hand rub (almost) every inch of their Dogs, every day. Try that. Just set aside ten minutes of every day to 'palm brush', then vigorously rub ye Dog all over. The all round benefits of such a routine could probably fill a small book. Think about it. Anyone ever heard of Stretching a Dog? ~ and I Don't mean Korean style! Don't get me f*cking started on That! ~ Friend of mine, internationally respected PP Dog Trainer, Stretches Dogs. Reckons that too has all sorts of benefits. Don't look at me; I've never studied his methods. But he does things like place their back feet on a bench and walk them foreward. Some shit like that. Reckons it calms them and all sorts. Maybe it releases endorphins, like sex? I don't know. But I've openly and publicly refered to this man as " GOD ". He can stretch my Dogs any time Quote Link to post
Guest ripstop Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hullo, mate. I believe I remember rightly that the bumph on the card it comes attatched to suggests ye use the big toothed side for a damn good going over and the finer teeth for the Dogs 'more delicate areas'. Personally, on my own Dogs various, I just use the big teeth. As 15 said already, ye simply stroke it down the coat. going with the hair growth direction. No more special technique involved than scratching ye nose. Myself, I only ever use it as a closed loop. Couldn't be arsed with trying to use it like a draw blade. If I haven't already mentioned it - or anyone's missed it where I have; I can't stress too strongly what a good idea it is to take ye Dog to a park, wood, anywhere really that's out of ye own back garden and where people won't mind the fact that ye creating clouds of fur balls that'll blow about in the wind. Maybe my big Dog's just a f*cker or something? But, when I had next door neighbours, I used to stress out terrible as I watched the clouds of his fur blowing over into their garden. But, on the other hand, that just demonstrates the ability of these things to shift that dead hair. Also, if ye have more than one Dog? Do them alone. Put the rest away as ye do one Dog. Craic is that, once they suss out how nice it feels, they'll make f*cking nuisances of themselves trying to push the Dog ye working on away and get under it themselves. Finally, as has been pointed out above also; This isn't necessarily what 'professionals' would consider " Stripping " a Dog anyway. And none of my Dogs have harsh, wirey coats. So f*cking what? Nor has my donkey. I give them all a good doing now and then. They all enjoy it and look better for it. Probably feel better too. So why not just do it, regardless of what it's called or why? " Strip " ye Dog, as and when, by what ever method, if he needs it. But Professional Trainers I know glove brush and hand rub (almost) every inch of their Dogs, every day. Try that. Just set aside ten minutes of every day to 'palm brush', then vigorously rub ye Dog all over. The all round benefits of such a routine could probably fill a small book. Think about it. Anyone ever heard of Stretching a Dog? ~ and I Don't mean Korean style! Don't get me f*cking started on That! ~ Friend of mine, internationally respected PP Dog Trainer, Stretches Dogs. Reckons that too has all sorts of benefits. Don't look at me; I've never studied his methods. But he does things like place their back feet on a bench and walk them foreward. Some shit like that. Reckons it calms them and all sorts. Maybe it releases endorphins, like sex? I don't know. But I've openly and publicly refered to this man as " GOD ". He can stretch my Dogs any time IM NOT BOTHERD IF I GET KICKED OFF THE SITE BUT WHATS WRONG WITH A DOG WITH A GOOD WIRY COAT ALWAYS LIKED THEM ALWAYS WILL IF THE DOG WORKS SO WHAT. GOT A SMOOTH BITCH AND A ROUGH DOG GONNA SEE THE GRADE MIGHT I ADD DITCH SHITTER YOU TALK A LOT OF SHITE IVE TRAINED GREYHOUNDS AND KNOW MORE THAN MOST ON HEALTH ETC SO WHATS YOU PROBLEM THERE ARE MUCH BETTER SITES WITH NO ARGUING AND BACK STABBING. PEOPLE LIKE YOU PUT OFF NEWCOMERS TO THE WORLD OF THE DOG AND HUNT . YOU DO PUT UP GOOD POSTS BUT ARENT ALWAYS RIGHT MIGHT I ADD TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF YOU SEEM TO PICK ON CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW Quote Link to post
marko 30 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 the question was asked about stripping coats so everyone tries to give a bit of advice to help were possible i dont see anyone getting slagged people on soap boxes people are giving there time to answer these questions and sometimes they cant be very informative answers given Quote Link to post
Neal 1,873 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Thanks for the advice D.S. After reading that I found an antique horse comb which I bought mainly because it looked so curious. When I got it home I tried it on one of my kelpies (for some reason he looses enough hair each week to stuff a pillow although the other one only looses hair when she's moulting) and it worked really well! I wonder if I'll get as much use out of the bilberry picker. Quote Link to post
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