stop.end 4,079 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Terrier work is an expression of it’s natural behaviour and the difficulty lies in preventing terriers from hunting below ground, rather than encouraging them to do so. Codes of conduct and responsible and experienced insured individuals , ensure this takes place with the minimum possible risk to either the terrier or quarry and that it is carried out as quickly, efficiently and humanely as possible. If we all that work terriers could explain to the future generation’s that this is how Genuine terrier work pest/vermin call outs have, and always will be conducted, to a high standard of regulations and a code of conduct that the general public are not even aware of?, Backfills of the landscape we have disturbed, and the future use of the earth we have just disturbed are of the up most importance, hopefully we would be well on our way too securing the future for the right to pest control with terriers. “That’s exactly how Barrie Wade the N.W.T.F & I.W.T.F. and anyone involved in really respecting and preserving the terrier we use, and the quarry we hunt, adhere too...” So if you agree with what has been wrote here, and genuinely care about the working terrier and its future. Support and help the N.W.T.F. & I..W..T.F promote and secure the future of Terrier Work! Barrie has done it, seen it, then dedicated his Life, to preserving the way we operate to the very day, and will always continue to do so... As will all affiliated with the N.W.T.F. the I.W.T.F. & all associated Working Terrier Clubs will continue to do so!! He has dug with the best, He is a Gentleman, has been at his beloved terrier work well over 50 years and still thinks he is 35 ... hope we all have the same fighting spirit after all he has done and seen! No wonder why he was rushed to hospital after some of the topics and replies that have been going on recently... on a site that is meant to promote HUNTING in all its aspects which means we are all on the same side we hope!!! It’s 2012... The people that are trying their best to promote our heritage as... not a necessity but as barbaric, and Neanderthal, they are not sitting slating one another, they are researching, and collecting evidence on why pest control should be made illegal!! If we all put the same fight into saving terrier work as we have into putting each other down then we would not be under the threat we are RIGHT NOW!! ....If we don’t help, and educate each other, we will have no future ..wake up folks! Lol four valves inserted into his aeortas and talking about getting the new barryvox set up at 65 thats what Barrie Wades worried about! There is people on here arguing who won what show, Thats not how to preserve terrier work. Educate and breed the best to the best and work together... that’s how we promote & save it!! True Legend. And if all goes well see you soon..... Mark.. I hope this will be useful information for the “New start” and the future generation.!! sorry for the rant... 13 Quote Link to post
long dogs 580 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 not a rant bud, some young ones need pointing in right direction on how to look after the land & there quarry.we need to work together to save the future of hunting 1 Quote Link to post
chilli 381 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Unfortunately you cannot put an old mans head on a young mans body , Quote Link to post
jsmith 103 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Mark ,Neil and the rest of the IWTF are doing Trojan work ,with the support of great men such as Barrie,to preserve the future of terrierwork .We need to move away from our individualistic approach and band together behind the IWTF implement and promote the code of practice and show terrierwork in the proper light. The season is now just around the corner and if we carry on as we have been it could well be the last as we know it here in the south,the time between now and Christmas will tell a lot for the future of terrierwork in the republic.I have said this on a number of topics, our enemies must be laughing at us between fighting amongst ourselves, paranoia or generally not actually giving a s@@t it seems we have already pushed the self destruct button. The Antis think they have us on the ropes and will be upping their game for a final push, no doubt they already have the champagne on ice. Lets not do their work for them ,support the IWTF and the good men behind it, don't lie down and let them take our traditions and way of life from us without a fight. 5 Quote Link to post
erik 71 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 if you really want to create a safe world to work the terriers ,,,,clouse this board. Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted August 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 TERRIER WORK. So, what is terrier work? What does it involve and how is it carried out? First and foremost it is a form of pest control. In fact it has many similarities with another widely practised form of pest control - ferreting. In both instances, it is a domestic animal fitted with a locator collar which goes below ground to locate and flush out another mammal. In both instances, the quarry may not always leave the earth and it may prove necessary to dig down in order to retrieve and dispatch it. In fact, the only real difference is that one involves a ferret and a rabbit, and the other a terrier and a fox. How is terrier work carried out? Let us consider the typical scenario of a farmer who has been losing chickens. One day, he notices fresh chicken feathers in a hedge bottom. As he gets closer he can see the feathers are outside one of the entrance holes to an old rabbit warren. He quietly approaches the entrance by moving around the den's perimeter, not across it, avoiding any unnecessary noise or vibrations. Upon closer inspection, it is apparent that a couple of the entrance holes have been slightly enlarged. He carefully checks these and the remainder of the warren for signs of badger. but none are present. He does however notice fox pad marks in the sand outside one of the holes, more feathers inside one of the other holes, the distinctive odour of fox and a fox dropping on a nearby mole hill. Confident that the den is now being used by a fox he quickly returns home. Once home, he collects his farmhand, terrier, bag of purse nets, terrier locator, spade, probe bar and gun. The terrier locator is checked to ensure it is working correctly and they drive back to the den, parking the vehicle a short distance away. Once again, they approach the den quietly, this time placing a net over each of the entrance holes. The farmer returns to his vehicle, fits his terrier with it's locating collar and takes both dog and gun back to the den. He allows the dog to quietly slip into the larger entrance hole and stands back with his gun. After a few minutes the terrier is heard to be barking below ground. A few minutes later there is a brown flash at one of the other holes and a fox is bundled up alive as the net quickly closes around it. The farmer moves swiftly across the den, quickly inspects and identifies the quarry as a fox (and not another animal) and dispatches it immediately. The fox is removed and the net replaced. A short while later the terrier emerges from the same hole as the fox, shakes the sand from its coat and excitedly wags his tail at his master. The terrier is once again allowed to enter the den, but this time from each of the remaining entrance holes. Each time he passes straight through the den indicating there are no more foxes in residence. The dog is checked for any signs of injuries, none are present, and it and the gun are returned to the vehicle. The nets are removed and each of the entrance holes is loosely filled with soil so that the farmer can tell if the den was being shared with another fox, or if one decides to take up residence at a later date. In a short time both dog and master are back at the farmhouse and a known poultry killer has been prevented from causing further damage. In the example quoted the offending poultry killer was easily identified and dealt with accordingly. Had it been a nursing vixen, this would have been quickly recognised and the necessary action taken to locate and dispose of her cubs also. This may seem harsh, but with other forms of control, the vixen would have been dispatched away from the den, the location of her cubs would not have been known and they would have faced the possibility of death by starvation. Foxes are lazy diggers, whilst they may occasionally dig their own dens, they much prefer to enlarge a rabbit burrow, or other hole, and take up residence there. They also make use of man made structures such as drains and hay bale stacks, and frequent rock piles. A cross section of hunt terrier men were surveyed and in most instances the findings were very similar. These being that, once a terrier had entered the earth, the majority of foxes would chose to leave and this would normally be in ten minutes or less. And where it was necessary to dig down to the fox, the average depth was around three feet and the average time taken approximately thirty minutes or less. Selectivity: Terrier work is a particularly selective form of control, it assists in the proper management of quarry species and may accurately be described as 'targeted control'. It is carried out at the fox's den and is therefore completely in keeping with the wishes of the landowner upon whose land that particular fox resides, and all such activity is localised. If disturbed, a fox will often abandon its earth and take up a new residence. This could be the den of another animal (eg. a rabbit warren) or man made structures such as drains, hay bale stacks, rubbish piles, pit holes rock piles etc. Foxes frequently seek shelter in such places when sick, injured or wounded, when disturbed, during inclement weather conditions and during the breeding season. This requires the regular monitoring of likely den locations. The most easily noticed and frequently seen occupancy indicators are signs of predation ie. feathers, wings and parts of dead livestock and other animals. As a result it is normally those foxes which are doing the most damage which are most easily located. In this manner terrier work provides early 'targeted control' of specific predators and prevents further losses . I hear what your saying chilli... but if the younger are encouraged to join local terrier clubs and learn from competent men... that will give the up and comings or the less experienced individual, this kind of advice and knowledge then all will NOT be lost... For years the government have been trying to slowly but surely take our right's and heritage, and protray terrier work in a very bad light... but if we all sat back and did nothing then that would be very very sad indeed.. does the very terrier we put on the end of the lead and take pest controlling, well he gives his all for his master and then more... doing everything in his genetic make up too see the job through and make you a very proud man when he does this task time and time again for the love of his owner and the very job he does!! well its about time we gave the TERRIER this very same respect ..... and do everything that we can to make sure the future generations of the terrier get to do the very job they love!! 1 Quote Link to post
tommy1967 47 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 There's some men out there that just don't give a shit what happens to the sport or there terriers or the quarry .or espeicaly the back filling and the landowners.most of these men I have seen come in to the hunting for a couple of years do there damage then pack it all up again. 4 Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 what terrierwork needs is less macho bollocks. slagging off everyone and there grannies terriers. if they dont swim through three foot of water. climb a rock face and then stay for three days. to a cougar. it needs less eletism less bull and less my dogs better than yours. it needs more backing from the general public. the easiest to get this from will be countryfolk. and would be country folk. with there little tykes that do very little. but what they do, do they are proud as punch of . so first of all tell them that there pride and joy are crap. tell anyone who will listen that showfolk are tossers and there tykes are also crap. . what you need is a public relations machine to start to repair the damage done from within. it needs allies that means all terrier related institutions working earthdogs. standing side by side with ratters. rabbit lads. pesters. pet owners show folk. these folk should not be alienated. they make the bulk of sporting terrier owners. they are also the most acceptable to the fence sitters. most folk admire a plucky little terrier nailing a dirty little rodent. far to much infighting and bullchit in the terrierworld. i'm glad to be out of it 4 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted August 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 There's some men out there that just don't give a shit what happens to the sport or there terriers or the quarry .or espeicaly the back filling and the landowners.most of these men I have seen come in to the hunting for a couple of years do there damage then pack it all up again. i agree 100% tommy if it does not draw tension and conflict then people clearly just aint interested, or the names of lines and how deep the dig!! instead of learning why terrier work is even carried out... they wanna know why, how, where, much, and is it available!!! its like an apprentiship when you have chosen your trade you seek the best man at that trade... not hear say!!! then as the terrier and the trade evolves, so should the humans!!... right now its not the terier thats feked.. its the man that owns it!! Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Nice work stop end, great advice and reading for the younger generation 1 Quote Link to post
just hunt 69 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Well done Mark .Keep up the good work . There seems to be clubs in every county in Ireland . SO there no excuses lads . JOIN A CLUB NOW 3 Quote Link to post
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