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i dont understand why you dont just keep them fit all the time? just feed em up a bit more in the summer, and fitten to the peak in the winter, atb :thumbs:

 

Well you obviously don't understand ..... because to feed them more in the summer would be detrimental to the dogs fitness regime not benefit it ..... Stick to your toy breeds fella .........

ive phrased it wrong pal, sorry

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Without trying to be controversial or start any sort of argument I can't understand why anybody lets their dogs get so unfit during the summer that they have to start working hard in August to get the

Well you obviously don't understand ..... because to feed them more in the summer would be detrimental to the dogs fitness regime not benefit it ..... Stick to your toy breeds fella .........

Lurchers will become unfit or lose fittness in the summer if there not getting ran unless your summer bashing pregnant/milky does and babys? even then they dont need to be properly fit to do that! I

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if you got time to keep yor dog fit as all year than you must have more time on you hands than me i have better thing to do than walk dogs all day they get 1 walk a day in summer then get run on bike just befor season i have my dogs to work not as pets

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not being funny, but in 1 hour i can cover alot of ground on a bike, and in 2 hours i can cover alot of ground on foot, an imagine the amount of ground the dogs cover! now dont tell me you cannot spare an hour on bike or 2 hours on foot, either get up earlier, or go to sleep later, simple

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I don't see the harm in them being fit all year round.

 

I train for various things, white collar fights, assault courses etc and I stay in shape year round. Maybe have a week off at Christmas or couple weeks on holiday in summer but apart from that I try to train and eat well year round.

 

Each to there own though.

 

Gaz

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Without trying to be controversial or start any sort of argument I can't understand why anybody lets their dogs get so unfit during the summer that they have to start working hard in August to get them fit for the season ..........

 

Lurchers will become unfit or lose fittness in the summer if there not getting ran :yes: unless your summer bashing pregnant/milky does and babys? even then they dont need to be properly fit to do that! If they have been ran hard in the winter why not let them have some R&R threw the months when the crops are high and the quarry are rearing there young? It makes sense that there fitness regime will be stepped up from now to start proper work in september its not "working hard in August to get them fit for the season" for me its getting them prepared for the season. All bike work does is tighten them up and prepare them for work anyway, getting them fit it does not :no: only getting them behind there quarry on a regular basis does that :)

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Mine spend the summer lying in the sun relaxing chewing bones,little walks about. Still plenty fit by season starts.

Do you think cheltneham horses are going up and down the gallops now,No there as fat as mud in a paddock.

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You cant keep a dog at peak all the time ,it wouldnt be long before dog burnt out ,gos flat,even in season if your out 4/5 times a week you need to manage your dogs and nights out and thats with few dogs ......but saying that letting them get right out of shape in summer is no good too ,i like mine ticking over through summer months ,few runs on rabbits once or 2 a week ,bit of walking ,biking ,free running through woods for hour ,

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I agree with that a dog can't be at his peak all year round but I do think he can (and must) be in good shape/fit all year round. I see no reason why I would let me dog get out of shape.

 

It's not only training, walking, swimming etc. which helps my dog get in shape. I'm not a believer in free feeding. I feed my dog the same way I use food myself (endurance/strength enthusiast). I feed very little before his workouts and feed most after them. I know a dog is not a human, but in humans this causes you to use most of the energy to go to your muscles and makes sure none or very little food will be deposited as bodyfat. This is because of the muscle cells being most sensitive to calorie intake right after the training, the afterburn from the training also helps burn calories.

 

If the dog has one resting day (don't know the exact word in English) I feed the same amount as normal. Especially if he's had an intense workout the day before. If there is a second resting day on which I just walk him a bit to stretch his muscles I feed him a bit less. I'd feed him a bit (10-15%) less if there are longer periods of no excercise. Although I like long walks and don't mind investing the time in his and my fitness, this can happen in the summer because of the heat.

 

The Epagneul Breton I just recently picked up (month ago) in a shelter was probably 2.5KG heavier than he should be. Which was a lot, he is a very small brittany at 44cm tts. I let him drop the weight first and after that try to let him put some muscle back on. Again I know dogs are not human and have different hormone levels etc. but you can't really build muscle and lose weight at the same time. Muscle building requires excercise and higher than required energy intake. Weight loss happens with a higher energy output or lower calorie intake, usually both is best (less intake, higher output)

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I agree with that a dog can't be at his peak all year round but I do think he can (and must) be in good shape/fit all year round. I see no reason why I would let me dog get out of shape.

 

It's not only training, walking, swimming etc. which helps my dog get in shape. I'm not a believer in free feeding. I feed my dog the same way I use food myself (endurance/strength enthusiast). I feed very little before his workouts and feed most after them. I know a dog is not a human, but in humans this causes you to use most of the energy to go to your muscles and makes sure none or very little food will be deposited as bodyfat. This is because of the muscle cells being most sensitive to calorie intake right after the training, the afterburn from the training also helps burn calories.

 

If the dog has one resting day (don't know the exact word in English) I feed the same amount as normal. Especially if he's had an intense workout the day before. If there is a second resting day on which I just walk him a bit to stretch his muscles I feed him a bit less. I'd feed him a bit (10-15%) less if there are longer periods of no excercise. Although I like long walks and don't mind investing the time in his and my fitness, this can happen in the summer because of the heat.

 

The Epagneul Breton I just recently picked up (month ago) in a shelter was probably 2.5KG heavier than he should be. Which was a lot, he is a very small brittany at 44cm tts. I let him drop the weight first and after that try to let him put some muscle back on. Again I know dogs are not human and have different hormone levels etc. but you can't really build muscle and lose weight at the same time. Muscle building requires excercise and higher than required energy intake. Weight loss happens with a higher energy output or lower calorie intake, usually both is best (less intake, higher output)

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I try and feed within a hour and half after exercise /lamping as within this time is best for uptake of all the protein ,carbs ,fats in the food ,but giving at least 30mins grace after exercise for the wind problem that might occur

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