2.8 guy 403 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I was just wondering what peoples opinions are on the success rate of well bred coursing pups, You see quite often dogs bred out of x cross y down through this and that all of good breeding and proven dogs in the field But out of these dogs how many don't make the grade and what would you say was the worst you could expect You hear of the success stories but what about the failures, I think the only word ive heard banded about is jackers which to me could happen with any breed and for many reasons so please not too much on this As these dogs are what you would say specialist dogs, dogs bred for purpose just like the greyhound does it just come down to speed stamina and the ability to be consistant in its field without injury 1 Quote Link to post
goldfish 185 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Most dogs these days are well bred not always the dogs owners play a big part Quote Link to post
Hitcher 297 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Most dogs these days are well bred not always the dogs owners play a big part hows your pups getting on t Quote Link to post
2.8 guy 403 Posted August 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 YES rearing is everything, i bet many a good dog has been spoilt by bad owners and people who think there dogs can be left in a kennel till the weekend and then run hard 5 Quote Link to post
poxon 5,718 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 with the very little i know and experience i have that can fit on the back of a stamp you can pair the best of the best and still end up with shit!!!! you can also breed out of shit an end up with a good dog its all one big lucky dip this dog game good dogs end up promoted then stud or bitch lined for the next crop of hopefulls bad uns end up on the merry go round with the rest of the ruined mutts to go from post to post or get droped off at the nearest center shit old world an deal on the dogs part in the search for a hero Quote Link to post
poxon 5,718 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 YES rearing is everything, i bet many a good dog has been spoilt by bad owners and people who think there dogs can be left in a kennel till the weekend and then run hard nail on head fella Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 As well as rearing, correct entering is so important. Pointless putting a pup that is not fit enough or old enough on the back of one of the finest athletes in the animal kingdom and expecting it to connect. From what I hear, far too many people can't wait the required time for their pups to mature physically and mentally before running the crap out of them. The poor dog is then labelled useless or a jacker and passed on because it has embarrassed its owner in front of his 'mates'. 7 Quote Link to post
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 As well as rearing, correct entering is so important. Pointless putting a pup that is not fit enough or old enough on the back of one of the finest athletes in the animal kingdom and expecting it to connect. From what I hear, far too many people can't wait the required time for their pups to mature physically and mentally before running the crap out of them. The poor dog is then labelled useless or a jacker and passed on because it has embarrassed its owner in front of his 'mates'. Spot on. Quote Link to post
poxon 5,718 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 As well as rearing, correct entering is so important. Pointless putting a pup that is not fit enough or old enough on the back of one of the finest athletes in the animal kingdom and expecting it to connect. From what I hear, far too many people can't wait the required time for their pups to mature physically and mentally before running the crap out of them. The poor dog is then labelled useless or a jacker and passed on because it has embarrassed its owner in front of his 'mates'. nail on head Quote Link to post
iWorkChihuahuas 52 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 As well as rearing, correct entering is so important. Pointless putting a pup that is not fit enough or old enough on the back of one of the finest athletes in the animal kingdom and expecting it to connect. From what I hear, far too many people can't wait the required time for their pups to mature physically and mentally before running the crap out of them. The poor dog is then labelled useless or a jacker and passed on because it has embarrassed its owner in front of his 'mates'. that is spot on, but the correct age, what is the correct age? i always say 9 months for rabbiting 12/13 month for bigrabbits, but ive started keeping dogs, an ive changed my mind, i find 11 months for rabbits an 15/16 month for bigrabbits, i dont know if you find this skycat, but bitches mature alot, lot quicker, but i can usually tell, and see when a pup is physically, and mentally ready to start, thats my opinion, whats yours? Quote Link to post
Chid 6,489 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 As well as rearing, correct entering is so important. Pointless putting a pup that is not fit enough or old enough on the back of one of the finest athletes in the animal kingdom and expecting it to connect. From what I hear, far too many people can't wait the required time for their pups to mature physically and mentally before running the crap out of them. The poor dog is then labelled useless or a jacker and passed on because it has embarrassed its owner in front of his 'mates'. that is spot on, but the correct age, what is the correct age? i always say 9 months for rabbiting 12/13 month for bigrabbits, but ive started keeping dogs, an ive changed my mind, i find 11 months for rabbits an 15/16 month for bigrabbits, i dont know if you find this skycat, but bitches mature alot, lot quicker, but i can usually tell, and see when a pup is physically, and mentally ready to start, thats my opinion, whats yours? how many bitches have you reared , entered and then theve gone on to have a good working career and then retired with you? and how many dogs you had and done the same ? your about 16, how do you know what is the correct age for lurchers in theory in you working career of dogs 2 dogs would of done ya , so how can you give a reasonable opinion on the right age to enter a lurcher when you havent been around long enough to have found what the correct age is ? Quote Link to post
nancy 275 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Fck me give the lad a break child Quote Link to post
iWorkChihuahuas 52 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 ive had a bitch from a young age, my dad brought on and gave to me when i was about 7, she lived until 19, worked until 12, not bad if i say so myself, ive brough on 2 other bitches as i said, one is coming up 8, and will be retiring next year as she has caused injuries with her hard running style, and i have 1 dog which is coming of age, i started him later, and he is a very good dog in my eyes, and i brought a dog on last season and he is coming good, and im bringing another on this season, and youve got my age wrong pal. Quote Link to post
john john 51 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 As well as rearing, correct entering is so important. Pointless putting a pup that is not fit enough or old enough on the back of one of the finest athletes in the animal kingdom and expecting it to connect. From what I hear, far too many people can't wait the required time for their pups to mature physically and mentally before running the crap out of them. The poor dog is then labelled useless or a jacker and passed on because it has embarrassed its owner in front of his 'mates'. more guess work ,from the cmw finest .if im wrong then just say who youve witnessed doing it .not from what youve heard .a decent youngster with an experienced hand on the lead will kill hares at eight or nine months Quote Link to post
john john 51 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 As well as rearing, correct entering is so important. Pointless putting a pup that is not fit enough or old enough on the back of one of the finest athletes in the animal kingdom and expecting it to connect. From what I hear, far too many people can't wait the required time for their pups to mature physically and mentally before running the crap out of them. The poor dog is then labelled useless or a jacker and passed on because it has embarrassed its owner in front of his 'mates'. that is spot on, but the correct age, what is the correct age? i always say 9 months for rabbiting 12/13 month for bigrabbits, but ive started keeping dogs, an ive changed my mind, i find 11 months for rabbits an 15/16 month for bigrabbits, i dont know if you find this skycat, but bitches mature alot, lot quicker, but i can usually tell, and see when a pup is physically, and mentally ready to start, thats my opinion, whats yours? two fools together . Quote Link to post
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