Headshot08 36 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 My bitch is kept at another property at the moment and i work really odd shifts so how i meant to phrase that was if I personally dont feed her on time it will be my mrs feeding her. Sorry to confuse Steve Quote Link to post
martnmagik 68 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 never fasted mine, never even ran them on an empty stomach like alot of lads ive met in the past, if im out on a night with them they will get a "short portion" for breakfast so they have fuel without being "full" but get a good feed when home. Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Interesting article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19112549 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 never fasted mine, never even ran them on an empty stomach like alot of lads ive met in the past, if im out on a night with them they will get a "short portion" for breakfast so they have fuel without being "full" but get a good feed when home. Same here mate. Give my bitch a meal of biscuits late morning if I know I'm goin lamping that night and then a good meal of meat or meat and biscuits before bedding down. Never fasted my dogs but they do sometimes get a meal say after midnight on the lamping night and then won't get fed until that evening so 20 odd hours. I quite often fast on a sunday myself. Did it when I first started weight training years ago and just stuck by it. Gaz Quote Link to post
Guest born to run1083 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Never fasted my dogs but for me I feed mine at 8am every morning to keep a routine. When go to England to lamp I rarely get back before 6am anyway. Worked well for me and in bight of season mine manage being lamped 5 night a week all night. I think the fasting is like what few have mentioned to carb load and protein load after the fasting. Don't see the need peraonally Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 this goes back to the idea that wild carnivores dont eat every day because they dont make a successful hunt every day. most zoos give their big cats one or more starve days a week. BUT it fasting our dogs doesnt allow for the fact that a wild carnivore will LOAD up when it kills till it physically cant eat any more, then it doesnt actually need to hunt for a day or two. this is a totally different life style to a lurcher which might well be required to work 5 days a week or even more, never stuufing itself on a carcase then followed by 48 hours of lying around, then perhaps a day or two to find and kill a deer or whatever then back to the gorging etc. i dont see the point in it, i have never done it and dont plan to start now!!! 2 Quote Link to post
littlefish 586 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 i am wondering if the real reason is; they had no food to give the dog! so made up some excuse!! Indeed. If I had no food for my dogs, they would be getting half of mine. 1 Quote Link to post
martnmagik 68 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 i am wondering if the real reason is; they had no food to give the dog! so made up some excuse!! Indeed. If I had no food for my dogs, they would be getting half of mine. just half? u selfish sod lol Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 this goes back to the idea that wild carnivores dont eat every day because they dont make a successful hunt every day. most zoos give their big cats one or more starve days a week. BUT it fasting our dogs doesnt allow for the fact that a wild carnivore will LOAD up when it kills till it physically cant eat any more, then it doesnt actually need to hunt for a day or two. this is a totally different life style to a lurcher which might well be required to work 5 days a week or even more, never stuufing itself on a carcase then followed by 48 hours of lying around, then perhaps a day or two to find and kill a deer or whatever then back to the gorging etc. i dont see the point in it, i have never done it and dont plan to start now!!! spot on in the wild the least amount of energy and exposure to danger of injury is the way they live, so kill,gorge and rest is the norm Quote Link to post
laad 10 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 If i can remember correctly i read this in one of my ferreting books i will try and find it and quote it on here i have a funny feeling it was in Jackie drakefords book? It says something along the line of leaving the ferrets one day without food a week is a perfectly natural thing to do as it is good for their digestive systems and also brings them back to their basic natural instinct that they may not be able to hunt and kill each day? Somethings along those lines but im not entirely sure about dogs. Me personally the only time i have a miss feed is because of me and only me forgetting or being too busy. But 98% of the time she is fed everyday on time Thanks You may have read it in James McKays the ferret and ferreting handbook, it says: "I never feed my stock on Sundays, a day of fast is good for all animals especially carnivores as it helps to cleanse the digestive system". 1 Quote Link to post
alimac 882 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 If you feed hounds the day before hunting there very sluggish compared to when there feed is missed, there certainly much sharper. I don't know of any kennels that feed the day before unless there a small pack that hunt the same hounds 3-4 days a week when missing is just not a option.. Hounds will do 20/30/40 miles on a day out & if it had ANY sort of negative effect on them either in there stamina, ability to hunt or in there general wellbeing it wouldn't be done, as any one that works around them will know with out a pack in absolute peak condition you have nothing.. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 If you feed hounds the day before hunting there very sluggish compared to when there feed is missed, there certainly much sharper. I don't know of any kennels that feed the day before unless there a small pack that hunt the same hounds 3-4 days a week when missing is just not a option.. Hounds will do 20/30/40 miles on a day out & if it had ANY sort of negative effect on them either in there stamina, ability to hunt or in there general wellbeing it wouldn't be done, as any one that works around them will know with out a pack in absolute peak condition you have nothing.. hounds dont have to retrieve what they catch Quote Link to post
alimac 882 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 If you feed hounds the day before hunting there very sluggish compared to when there feed is missed, there certainly much sharper. I don't know of any kennels that feed the day before unless there a small pack that hunt the same hounds 3-4 days a week when missing is just not a option.. Hounds will do 20/30/40 miles on a day out & if it had ANY sort of negative effect on them either in there stamina, ability to hunt or in there general wellbeing it wouldn't be done, as any one that works around them will know with out a pack in absolute peak condition you have nothing.. hounds dont have to retrieve what they catch Lol, and what's that got to do with the pros & cons of feeding/fasting Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 we had this convo a while back an i done a bit of research into it an it seemed there was no right or wrong answer that i could find... i did read summat an im pretty sure it was on here an sandymere wrote it, an its said a dog should be given 6 meals over 7 days, but not to feed the dogs at the same time every day an if possible try an feed earlier rather than later, resulting in a dog getting 6 meals over 7 days, im sure it was sandymere, tho without him saying where i cant remember where i seen the article.. i feed my dogs everyday bit like socks says somedays ill try given a very light meal, or i have started using yoghurt aswell after a mate swore by it Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 If you feed hounds the day before hunting there very sluggish compared to when there feed is missed, there certainly much sharper. I don't know of any kennels that feed the day before unless there a small pack that hunt the same hounds 3-4 days a week when missing is just not a option.. Hounds will do 20/30/40 miles on a day out & if it had ANY sort of negative effect on them either in there stamina, ability to hunt or in there general wellbeing it wouldn't be done, as any one that works around them will know with out a pack in absolute peak condition you have nothing.. hounds dont have to retrieve what they catch Lol, and what's that got to do with the pros & cons of feeding/fasting depends if you earn a living from what you catch or if you earn a living from what they catch Quote Link to post
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