Rory4 267 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Alot of gundog breeders charge stupid prices £££££££££££ Quote Link to post
Francentey-FTB 29 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 gundogs = money... but coming back to it, if your buying your first gundog you dont want a high powered ftch bred animal, you are more then likely not going to handle it, imo i dont know why people get hung up on bloodlines, i also believe that a springer from an average man will be 300 to 400 no more, quality bloodlines like ftch bred are 600 and above, but on a rule you can find bargains, ireland is the place for good breeding and low cost, but if you look in the right places you will find well bred spaniels at 300 quid, as mentioned get beating and put your name down for a pup out of two good dogs, its horses for courses as they say, if you want to be trialling buy the best to up your odds for a good dog, general shooting dog/hunting dog bloodlines dont matter you want to make sure sire and dam are workers though, 1 Quote Link to post
RubyTex 1,957 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 get beating and put your name down for a pup out of two good dogs, This best way to go about it, i'm hoping to put my name on a cocker pup this winter from a bitch on the beating line. Quote Link to post
04fox8 168 Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Some good 'common sense' points coming out here. Looks to me that (In a way) most of you agree with me, or at least see that the average guy looking for £500 odd is chancing his mit, whilst a perfectly decent dog with potential can be acquired for a lot less. Like I say, I'm not in a position to get one just yet, and I'll be keeping my ears open over the next few months or so. I work away from home a lot at the moment, and my concern is if I get one whilst I'm in this position, that my wife and kids will have the pup ruined by the time I can commit to it. If anyone can convince me this wouldn't happen, I might consider getting one sooner. Cheers. Quote Link to post
cammy12 176 Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Some good 'common sense' points coming out here. Looks to me that (In a way) most of you agree with me, or at least see that the average guy looking for £500 odd is chancing his mit, whilst a perfectly decent dog with potential can be acquired for a lot less. Like I say, I'm not in a position to get one just yet, and I'll be keeping my ears open over the next few months or so. I work away from home a lot at the moment, and my concern is if I get one whilst I'm in this position, that my wife and kids will have the pup ruined by the time I can commit to it. If anyone can convince me this wouldn't happen, I might consider getting one sooner. Cheers. that would defo happen, i would wait until your in the postion to train and exercise properly and train wife and child how to handle the dog the way you want not how they see fit atb cammy Quote Link to post
WILF 46,549 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 I am looking for a Lab out of working stuff at the moment, I don't mind paying but I have a deep suspicion of folk charging big money......I know for a fact that they let the dollar signs get in the way of only breeding decent animals so I am at a loss. Quote Link to post
Guest nighthunter2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 U get junk dogs and u get well breed dogs id rather pay alot more for a well breed pup than a pile of shite. Im not saying all cheap pups are but ur taking a risk why do u think theres alot of older dogs for sale Quote Link to post
3175darren 1,100 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Stick to breeders you know,be wary of the guy who wants the fortune, for unless he is a champion dog trainer breeding from a champion dog,you really dont know what you are getting,you are better with a pup, remember no expert dog man sells a good dog, he keeps that one for himself, because there is champions in the blood line does not automatically mean you are getting a good dog,where as with a local dog you can see for yourself what the dog is like,ask other peoples opinion dont buy if they are obitual breeders,where as a good local guy will breed, to keep a pup for himself in other words he is keeping his blood line going,he would do that for a reason, ask him if he is keeping one himself,?????when it comes to pedigrees I have both I have dogs with and with out papers,pointer bred to the back teeth not a cheep dog at all,lab bred really well I owned his farther I still own his mother,no papers brilliant little Lab,I have a spaniel who has now retired,no papers and a great loss to my shooting cracking little dog,I have a teckel terrier well bred good animal,first class on a blood line,cost a fortune,then I have a little lurcher dog, no papers people look odly some times at him,he will do almost anything the others will do, This is him after retreiving ducks, what I am saying spend time get a dog that can walk the walk not talk the talk,I would pay well for a dog with clear ability not a written ability,and still say someone on here will be selling at some point some first class animals,take your time it will pay dividens,Remember most junk dogs have junk owners, Quote Link to post
RubyTex 1,957 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 My round up of the delights of 'Preloved' and all it's greedy b*****ds... £500 for border terrier pups As i said in another thread, Cocker x Tibetan terrier pups, £500 That old chesnut 'blue' staffys £750 :whistling: 'Yorkie-Poo' pups £600 Bichon Frise x Patterdale...who the feck does that??? Here's one for you, 'Yorkie-Poo-Adors'.........Right I could go on!! Might buy myself a Jack Russell to put to my Springer....is the official term for that mix a 'Jacker'?? 1 Quote Link to post
Nik_B 3,790 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 ...but coming back to it, if your buying your first gundog you dont want a high powered ftch bred animal, you are more then likely not going to handle it, There was a guy who posted on here called Rickyspringer who told me the same thing...still I went and did it anyway and got a full blown FTCH lined Labrador with all the fancy Drakeshead etc in him. Nearly 3 years on he's run me ragged I'm not sure if I am right about this but I think I might have had a better time with a bitch, slightly less Ferrari and a bit more Volkwagon Quote Link to post
bazra 2 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 i bought a lab without papers but lots of ftc family history cheap for a family pet, hes my first dog and i think he may be capable but at present slightly "special" Quote Link to post
04fox8 168 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 My round up of the delights of 'Preloved' and all it's greedy b*****ds... £500 for border terrier pups As i said in another thread, Cocker x Tibetan terrier pups, £500 That old chesnut 'blue' staffys £750 :whistling: 'Yorkie-Poo' pups £600 Bichon Frise x Patterdale...who the feck does that??? Here's one for you, 'Yorkie-Poo-Adors'.........Right I could go on!! Might buy myself a Jack Russell to put to my Springer....is the official term for that mix a 'Jacker'?? EXACTLY! I'm not after anything 'special' for Myself, but then again, "why not?" if clowns like those you mention are asking that kind of ££ Quote Link to post
Gazelle1000 8 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Hi I bought my ESS with no papers but lots of FTC history and he's coming on great. I am big believer it's down to the handler as much as the dog/breed Thanks Quote Link to post
Nik_B 3,790 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 i bought a lab....but at present slightly "special" Sounds like a labrador lol Don't worry he'll calm down......at 12 Quote Link to post
Qbgrey 4,062 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 a person on our shoot got 2 dogs,field trail this,champion this,with the double barrel names,ftch dukeshorn of horsends from bristol type of bollacks, 2 ducks were shot over the pond and her dogs refused to go into the frozen lake,i sent my half bull grey of sidealley council estate of wales he brought both back.her face was a picture i never forgotten... Quote Link to post
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