troter58 1,711 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 i like my dogs to jump but i have seen some bad injurys in the lamp when the dogs go over in full flight but yes they must jump in the day atb troter Quote Link to post
young buck 375 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 the last thing a want is for my dogs to pull up at fences especially on a chase whether it be daytime or lamping so they have to be jumping 100% its one of the easiest things to teach a dog Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 the lampers i know who discourage it baffle me........surely the quickest quietest way into a field is over the gate? no twanging wire or clanking gates 1 Quote Link to post
keeganrees 196 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 jump for defo.. Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,053 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 A dog that doesn't jump, is just that; a DOG, not a LURCHER !! As some one said, whatever happened to HJKC ?? Jumping is an integral part of Lurcher work, wether simply jumping a gate of fence to access a field, or in full flight in pursuit of it's quarry. Cheers. Quote Link to post
Guest first light Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 daytime yes but on the lamp no Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 daytime yes but on the lamp no So, have you actually trained your dogs not to jump in the dark? Surely if the dog is in hot pursuit and whatever it's chasing nips through a fence and pops over a wall the dog will be up and over too - especially if it jumps the same obstacles through the day? How do you stop them from jumping at night??? Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 daytime yes but on the lamp no So, have you actually trained your dogs not to jump in the dark? Surely if the dog is in hot pursuit and whatever it's chasing nips through a fence and pops over a wall the dog will be up and over too - especially if it jumps the same obstacles through the day? How do you stop them from jumping at night??? is this where the argument ......there is no such thing as an allrounder comes from? or (controversially) is that why we use collie bred dogs that can think a little? my monies on the latter 1 Quote Link to post
young buck 375 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 daytime yes but on the lamp no i can understand why you say that as ave lost a few dogs lamping but if a dog pulls up at a fence while on quarry its basically quitting whether daytime or lamping it is frustating as it could be out on to an open park at the other side of it this is why they must jump rather than discourage them jumping just pick your slips although accidents happen Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I would have caught half the stuff I have if my dogs didnt jump! I cant understand how folk can work a dog that wont jump to pursue game, they must watch tons of stuff trottin' off into the next field or wood with their dog stood by the fence lol .....sod that! Quote Link to post
Guest first light Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) only time let my dog jump if i am lamping from the road if i lamping and the rabbit goes in to the next field my lamp will be off dog back to my feet not jumping into the next field hunting up still have rabbit in this field do that field in a bit rabbits will still be there one field at a time most ov the time if my dog is right on a rabbit go to a fence it well knock it of its run Edited August 4, 2012 by first light Quote Link to post
haymin 2,465 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I think all lurches need to jump when out Lamping Gates and fences had a couple of accidents before but they learn the dangers and jump higher saying that I took a video of mist jumping a 7 bar gate that was well of the ground last week she never jump't it before she kinda got up well then stumble over it poor thing ) but she got over it coming back which she was happy with ) atb Jim Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 must have been a big gate jim, cos she really can jump , 'mists' had a few wee tears bud, would she have had less if she couldn't jump ? Quote Link to post
haymin 2,465 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 To true Stewart I used to cringe when she couldn't jump going through bard wire after seeing that picture in that penny's book with the dogs back ripped off . Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 One thing i don't really get . . . . . Do you guyshave big flat fields, with fences running through the middle, so the quarry goes through or over the fence, and keeps running across an open field? All of our fences tend to be either a long hedges, or divide fields from thick woodland, both of which tend to mean that for the most part the quarry is away once it gets to the fence, especiallyon the lamp. 1 Quote Link to post
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