broonball 38 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 how do you stop a dog jumping!? iv never encouraged her to jump but mine has started clearing everything whilst out, she had a few mishaps at the 5/6month mark, got her leg stuck in a 5bar gate she decided to try n jump, stuck in a railed fence too and more recently hooked herself on a double BW fence. she seems to have learnt and is jumping well clear of everything now. i kinda hope she doesnt jump whilst lamping(chasing) but at the same time if she can and does what could be done? Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,139 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 One thing i don't really get . . . . . Do you guyshave big flat fields, with fences running through the middle, so the quarry goes through or over the fence, and keeps running across an open field? All of our fences tend to be either a long hedges, or divide fields from thick woodland, both of which tend to mean that for the most part the quarry is away once it gets to the fence, especiallyon the lamp. What about when sheep fields are seperated from arable or fallow fields ? Rough land from cultivated land ? Here in Northumberland, (and most places I've ran in the UK), there are many fields seperated by fences and walls, and if a dog don't jump.....it don't catch ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
Richard Morgan 38 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 only time let my dog jump if i am lamping from the road if i lamping and the rabbit goes in to the next field my lamp will be off dog back to my feet not jumping into the next field hunting up still have rabbit in this field do that field in a bit rabbits will still be there one field at a time most ov the time if my dog is right on a rabbit go to a fence it well knock it of its run i agree with this jumping into a field on the lamp creates two problems the first how do u now whats in that field presently and it is very difficult to lamp the other field from the point u started the dog unless youre on the move with the lamp which ive never seen done fair enough walking on to a clapper but not while the course is on going Quote Link to post
coverdogs 888 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 i never liked a dog that couldent jump standing around while a dog runs up and down the fence whining but now i wonder how the dog feels standing in the next field waiting on its 50 + year old owner walking up and down the fence looking for a hole to crawl through . might need a run to the bone man myself shortly ha ha. 3 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 if it cant get throw it its got to jump it stands to reason if it doesnt its no catching its quarry simple as atb Quote Link to post
broonball 38 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 if jumping whilst lamping woulld you lads keep the fence/wall illuminated til the dog was over or try to keep the beam on the quarry which is over and away? i understand if the dog is on the prey this could be done at same time but given 50yds distance between them what would be the normal thing to do? cheers Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 One thing i don't really get . . . . . Do you guyshave big flat fields, with fences running through the middle, so the quarry goes through or over the fence, and keeps running across an open field? All of our fences tend to be either a long hedges, or divide fields from thick woodland, both of which tend to mean that for the most part the quarry is away once it gets to the fence, especiallyon the lamp. What about when sheep fields are seperated from arable or fallow fields ? Rough land from cultivated land ? Here in Northumberland, (and most places I've ran in the UK), there are many fields seperated by fences and walls, and if a dog don't jump.....it don't catch ! Cheers. In my part of the world you would catch feck all if they weren't jumping - walls, rylock, 5 strand/rylock and barb or two barbs, electric fencing and rails and a bastardisation of everything inbetween...be some quiet nights with non leapers!!!!! 3 Quote Link to post
haymin 2,465 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 i never liked a dog that couldent jump standing around while a dog runs up and down the fence whining but now i wonder how the dog feels standing in the next field waiting on its 50 + year old owner walking up and down the fence looking for a hole to crawl through . might need a run to the bone man myself shortly ha ha. cracken lol Quote Link to post
Adam_Chuck 256 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I agree a dog should jump fence and gates when needed and 100% when on the run but only day time, wouldnt want my dog jumpIng a fence in the dark Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 how do you stop a dog jumping!? iv never encouraged her to jump but mine has started clearing everything whilst out, she had a few mishaps at the 5/6month mark, got her leg stuck in a 5bar gate she decided to try n jump, stuck in a railed fence too and more recently hooked herself on a double BW fence. she seems to have learnt and is jumping well clear of everything now. i kinda hope she doesnt jump whilst lamping(chasing) but at the same time if she can and does what could be done? a question mate, with the greatest respect...............would your dog have hurt herself as much if you'd taught her to jump ? Quote Link to post
nighteyes 275 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 i think alot of it comes down to the type of ground you work, bring your dog up on, as long as mine jump when they need to [when theres still a good chance of catching ] but imo any lurcher which wants its enough it will jump or find away through if you like it or not somthing you have no control over imo Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,139 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I agree a dog should jump fence and gates when needed and 100% when on the run but only day time, wouldnt want my dog jumpIng a fence in the dark So when you are lamping, you lift your dog over fences, gates, etc ? Cheers. Quote Link to post
Adam_Chuck 256 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I agree a dog should jump fence and gates when needed and 100% when on the run but only day time, wouldnt want my dog jumpIng a fence in the dark So when you are lamping, you lift your dog over fences, gates, etc ? Cheers. I meant when in pursuit, if im lamping and a rabbit runs under a fence and out of the beam then its there for another time. But when walking from 1 field to the next or what I dont lift the dog it jumps. Ill be at the fence to and have a look at whats on the other side first Quote Link to post
redcharge 378 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 A dogs got to jump for me, theres f*****g no chance im lifting a smelly, muddy, wet, 75lb lump of fur all night long For those who think jumping has its risks non jumpers can come a cropper too, trying to squeeze through barbed wire or bouncing of fences at full pelt running stuff can cause problems too. 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 One thing i don't really get . . . . . Do you guyshave big flat fields, with fences running through the middle, so the quarry goes through or over the fence, and keeps running across an open field? All of our fences tend to be either a long hedges, or divide fields from thick woodland, both of which tend to mean that for the most part the quarry is away once it gets to the fence, especiallyon the lamp. What about when sheep fields are seperated from arable or fallow fields ? Rough land from cultivated land ? Here in Northumberland, (and most places I've ran in the UK), there are many fields seperated by fences and walls, and if a dog don't jump.....it don't catch ! Cheers. I know what you are saying mate, and when we go away, we face exactly that, and i'm happyt hat my dog can jump. Although he did take a while after having a couple of really bad bangs on wire. But local, it's pretty much ALL hedgerows, rather than just fences. I can think of ONE fence near me, that runs through the middle of a paddock, and that the dog has had to jump, while running something. All the other fences are either along hedgerows (both sides) or seperate woodland from fields. Obviously, daytime you need the dog to jump the fence from wood to field, but it doesn't really happen on the lamp. Quote Link to post
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