jackers !!!!!!!!!!!!

[mucky paws 495]

Some shit talked there speedie the run was 4m 30secs when the black ass pulled up,the year after he run 3 hares and killed 1 and got pulled all over the place.The sligo express pulled up after about 30 secs.You keep going on about the dog got 300 yards slip and people where against you in that comp????It does not show you any 300 yard slip nor a 6 min plus run on tape

incy 4-30 is a good run as u said before the dog hadnt got enough wind for them hares but it didnt jack in your own words so what has changed your mind.

he did not jack but he did not keep running what would you call it???????,if you had a collie running a hare and it did what the black ass did,we would say it was not bred for that,but the black ass was,end of,JACKER

well as said many a time on here is that not why the boys going over the water started to put more english bred saluki blood into there dogs as there own couldnt last the long courses.but there are lads going over still and the best off both breeds and still the dogs are coming up short its a lot of luck breeding good lurchers every cross dosent work .

of course it is,look what im saying is the black ass jacked,well then its back to the drawing board,then i would go and buy myself to pups from proven line and start again,and hope i was lucky,because every one needs abit of that,you also have to rember two of the same line pulled,question would you breed from that line

[TINY 12 108]

Some shit talked there speedie the run was 4m 30secs when the black ass pulled up,the year after he run 3 hares and killed 1 and got pulled all over the place.The sligo express pulled up after about 30 secs.You keep going on about the dog got 300 yards slip and people where against you in that comp????It does not show you any 300 yard slip nor a 6 min plus run on tape

incy 4-30 is a good run as u said before the dog hadnt got enough wind for them hares but it didnt jack in your own words so what has changed your mind.

No have not changed my mind but there is a big difference in 4m 30s and 6 mins 50 secs do you not think and at the off the day it was the owners fault for bringing a dog over to that land when it didn't have the tools for the job. ThatS why he put English blood into his breeding but he never tell you that.Its always about the old breeding.But fair play to the dog for running the hare for that long it run it until there was no more to give but as l said only the owner knows if the dog can run more then 4m 30s and he said it run 6mins plus so did it jack?????If it pull up on 4m plus but can run 6 min plus then it jacked.If it canT run that long well then it didn't jack simple really

incy i have only seen them dogs over there on dvd and havent seen any 6 r 7 minute runs yet have u any with them on it if if have pm me.breeding moves on all the time u have to put new blood into them every few years in ireland now we have a good selection of well bred salukis but it dosent guarantee that the pups will course both countries its not that easy i be looking for them to course ireland first.

[mucky paws 495]

Some shit talked there speedie the run was 4m 30secs when the black ass pulled up,the year after he run 3 hares and killed 1 and got pulled all over the place.The sligo express pulled up after about 30 secs.You keep going on about the dog got 300 yards slip and people where against you in that comp????It does not show you any 300 yard slip nor a 6 min plus run on tape

incy 4-30 is a good run as u said before the dog hadnt got enough wind for them hares but it didnt jack in your own words so what has changed your mind.

No have not changed my mind but there is a big difference in 4m 30s and 6 mins 50 secs do you not think and at the off the day it was the owners fault for bringing a dog over to that land when it didn't have the tools for the job. ThatS why he put English blood into his breeding but he never tell you that.Its always about the old breeding.But fair play to the dog for running the hare for that long it run it until there was no more to give but as l said only the owner knows if the dog can run more then 4m 30s and he said it run 6mins plus so did it jack?????If it pull up on 4m plus but can run 6 min plus then it jacked.If it canT run that long well then it didn't jack simple really

incy i have only seen them dogs over there on dvd and havent seen any 6 r 7 minute runs yet have u any with them on it if if have pm me.breeding moves on all the time u have to put new blood into them every few years in ireland now we have a good selection of well bred salukis but it dosent guarantee that the pups will course both countries its not that easy i be looking for them to course ireland first.

good one will run anywhere

[iceman001979 1,316]

Some shit talked there speedie the run was 4m 30secs when the black ass pulled up,the year after he run 3 hares and killed 1 and got pulled all over the place.The sligo express pulled up after about 30 secs.You keep going on about the dog got 300 yards slip and people where against you in that comp????It does not show you any 300 yard slip nor a 6 min plus run on tape

incy 4-30 is a good run as u said before the dog hadnt got enough wind for them hares but it didnt jack in your own words so what has changed your mind.

No have not changed my mind but there is a big difference in 4m 30s and 6 mins 50 secs do you not think and at the off the day it was the owners fault for bringing a dog over to that land when it didn't have the tools for the job. ThatS why he put English blood into his breeding but he never tell you that.Its always about the old breeding.But fair play to the dog for running the hare for that long it run it until there was no more to give but as l said only the owner knows if the dog can run more then 4m 30s and he said it run 6mins plus so did it jack?????If it pull up on 4m plus but can run 6 min plus then it jacked.If it canT run that long well then it didn't jack simple really

incy i have only seen them dogs over there on dvd and havent seen any 6 r 7 minute runs yet have u any with them on it if if have pm me.breeding moves on all the time u have to put new blood into them every few years in ireland now we have a good selection of well bred salukis but it dosent guarantee that the pups will course both countries its not that easy i be looking for them to course ireland first.

No that's my point if the owner says its runs 6 mins plus but pulls up at 4mins plus then the dog jacked.l hunt Ireland and l think only if your going hunt across the water then you need English blood put into your dog.In l; Ireland we don't get the runs that the English men get on the fens so we don't need the staying they have in there dogs but if your thinking about going across the pond then l think its a must.

[TINY 12 108]

Some shit talked there speedie the run was 4m 30secs when the black ass pulled up,the year after he run 3 hares and killed 1 and got pulled all over the place.The sligo express pulled up after about 30 secs.You keep going on about the dog got 300 yards slip and people where against you in that comp????It does not show you any 300 yard slip nor a 6 min plus run on tape

incy 4-30 is a good run as u said before the dog hadnt got enough wind for them hares but it didnt jack in your own words so what has changed your mind.

he did not jack but he did not keep running what would you call it???????,if you had a collie running a hare and it did what the black ass did,we would say it was not bred for that,but the black ass was,end of,JACKER

well as said many a time on here is that not why the boys going over the water started to put more english bred saluki blood into there dogs as there own couldnt last the long courses.but there are lads going over still and the best off both breeds and still the dogs are coming up short its a lot of luck breeding good lurchers every cross dosent work .

of course it is,look what im saying is the black ass jacked,well then its back to the drawing board,then i would go and buy myself to pups from proven line and start again,and hope i was lucky,because every one needs abit of that,you also have to rember two of the same line pulled,question would you breed from that line

are there not some of this line still at stud in ireland

[mucky paws 495]

Some shit talked there speedie the run was 4m 30secs when the black ass pulled up,the year after he run 3 hares and killed 1 and got pulled all over the place.The sligo express pulled up after about 30 secs.You keep going on about the dog got 300 yards slip and people where against you in that comp????It does not show you any 300 yard slip nor a 6 min plus run on tape

incy 4-30 is a good run as u said before the dog hadnt got enough wind for them hares but it didnt jack in your own words so what has changed your mind.

he did not jack but he did not keep running what would you call it???????,if you had a collie running a hare and it did what the black ass did,we would say it was not bred for that,but the black ass was,end of,JACKER

well as said many a time on here is that not why the boys going over the water started to put more english bred saluki blood into there dogs as there own couldnt last the long courses.but there are lads going over still and the best off both breeds and still the dogs are coming up short its a lot of luck breeding good lurchers every cross dosent work .

of course it is,look what im saying is the black ass jacked,well then its back to the drawing board,then i would go and buy myself to pups from proven line and start again,and hope i was lucky,because every one needs abit of that,you also have to rember two of the same line pulled,question would you breed from that line

are there not some of this line still at stud in ireland

probaly is,but if you seen them pull would you breed from them

[TINY 12 108]

Some shit talked there speedie the run was 4m 30secs when the black ass pulled up,the year after he run 3 hares and killed 1 and got pulled all over the place.The sligo express pulled up after about 30 secs.You keep going on about the dog got 300 yards slip and people where against you in that comp????It does not show you any 300 yard slip nor a 6 min plus run on tape

incy 4-30 is a good run as u said before the dog hadnt got enough wind for them hares but it didnt jack in your own words so what has changed your mind.

he did not jack but he did not keep running what would you call it???????,if you had a collie running a hare and it did what the black ass did,we would say it was not bred for that,but the black ass was,end of,JACKER

well as said many a time on here is that not why the boys going over the water started to put more english bred saluki blood into there dogs as there own couldnt last the long courses.but there are lads going over still and the best off both breeds and still the dogs are coming up short its a lot of luck breeding good lurchers every cross dosent work .

of course it is,look what im saying is the black ass jacked,well then its back to the drawing board,then i would go and buy myself to pups from proven line and start again,and hope i was lucky,because every one needs abit of that,you also have to rember two of the same line pulled,question would you breed from that line

are there not some of this line still at stud in ireland

probaly is,but if you seen them pull would you breed from them

NONONONO

[oneshot1986 72]

alot of people on here must dispose of alot of dogs if it dont make the grade its gone if it dont do this or that its gone culled or moved on its a joke if dogs wasnt so readily available you would have to work harder with the dog you had in the first place does everybody on here want the best dogs in the world well we cant all have the best dog in the world i can tell you this my dog is my dog hes never going to be moved on if he turns out good he turns out good if he cant catch a thing i will still enjoy watching him trying to catch whatever hes chasing this is a sport its supposed to be fun and your supposed to enjoy it anyway back to subject about a jacker if a dog jacks once in whatever situation does that make him a jacker for life or can a good dog person bring him back into the game i would say in the right hands a dog can be brought back atb oneshot

[jeff20 14]

_{EVERY ONE WHANTS THE BEST THAT WHAT KEEPS US GOING AND TRYING IF A DOG IS NO GOOD WHY WOULD YOU WHANT TO BREED FROM THAT IF A DOG JACKS TWICE WELL THEN ITS GONE ,,,//// ITS LIKE GAMEFOWL IF A BIRD RUNS OR WHEELS YOU CULL IT AND ITS WHOLE LINE TO BREED FROM YOUR KEEPING A BAD WEAK STRAIN SAME GO S FOR DOGS THAT JACKS YOU MUST REMBER THERE IS SOME TOP DOGS OUT THERE [LINES] THE WOULDENT BE THERE IF PEOPLE WHANTED HOUSE PETS AS YOU SAID ITS A SPORT TELL ONE A MAN DOESENT WHANT TO WIN}

[TINY 12 108]

_{EVERY ONE WHANTS THE BEST THAT WHAT KEEPS US GOING AND TRYING IF A DOG IS NO GOOD WHY WOULD YOU WHANT TO BREED FROM THAT IF A DOG JACKS TWICE WELL THEN ITS GONE ,,,//// ITS LIKE GAMEFOWL IF A BIRD RUNS OR WHEELS YOU CULL IT AND ITS WHOLE LINE TO BREED FROM YOUR KEEPING A BAD WEAK STRAIN SAME GO S FOR DOGS THAT JACKS YOU MUST REMBER THERE IS SOME TOP DOGS OUT THERE [LINES] THE WOULDENT BE THERE IF PEOPLE WHANTED HOUSE PETS AS YOU SAID ITS A SPORT TELL ONE A MAN DOESENT WHANT TO WIN}

there are some very strong lines of coursing dogs in ireland at the minute but they dont come on here they keep it to themselves and the pups are gone before there born.ps and they are not going for mad amounts off money. Edited August 16, 2012 by TINY 12

[jeff20 14]

_{EVERY ONE WHANTS THE BEST THAT WHAT KEEPS US GOING AND TRYING IF A DOG IS NO GOOD WHY WOULD YOU WHANT TO BREED FROM THAT IF A DOG JACKS TWICE WELL THEN ITS GONE ,,,//// ITS LIKE GAMEFOWL IF A BIRD RUNS OR WHEELS YOU CULL IT AND ITS WHOLE LINE TO BREED FROM YOUR KEEPING A BAD WEAK STRAIN SAME GO S FOR DOGS THAT JACKS YOU MUST REMBER THERE IS SOME TOP DOGS OUT THERE [LINES] THE WOULDENT BE THERE IF PEOPLE WHANTED HOUSE PETS AS YOU SAID ITS A SPORT TELL ONE A MAN DOESENT WHANT TO WIN}

there are some very strong lines of coursing dogs in ireland at the minute but they dont come on here they keep it to themselves and the pups are gone before there born.ps and they are not going for mad amounts off money.

 

 

whats your point or question

[derbylad1 293]

I videod the last Waterloo Cup, and on one course a black and white dog simply gave up the chase, when both dogs were being beat by the hare, and slowed downd, turned round and went walkabout !! The other dog carried on, even though the hare had it beat, and even went out into the rough after the hare. The black and white dog is a jacker, the other one isn't !

 

Cheers.

 

Now dont take this as arguing mate, because if i'm honest i've not read all the posts. But if that dog gave up...did it jack or was it using its brain as it knew there was no chance of a catch. Every dog, in every situation and every use of a dog is different. Some dogs dont continue their run due to injury (so fair play, there's the reason), others stop the run due to intelligence and that'll give you a dog that can make another run for you and not totatally knackered. This type of dog (usually feckin collies curs...lol) is one that will think on its feet.

 

So all "jackers" cannot be put into one basket. However, what is a jacker, i think its a dog that is not fit for purpose, and will continualy not run whatever it is intended for.

 

So in theory, its down to the owner not the dog. entered incorrectly is a major factor, poor fitness levels when working, wrong nutrition, put against the wrong quarry, not recognising an injury or following up on a suspect injury.....there are loads of reasons a dog might jack!!!! or not be jacking...lol

[TINY 12 108]

_{EVERY ONE WHANTS THE BEST THAT WHAT KEEPS US GOING AND TRYING IF A DOG IS NO GOOD WHY WOULD YOU WHANT TO BREED FROM THAT IF A DOG JACKS TWICE WELL THEN ITS GONE ,,,//// ITS LIKE GAMEFOWL IF A BIRD RUNS OR WHEELS YOU CULL IT AND ITS WHOLE LINE TO BREED FROM YOUR KEEPING A BAD WEAK STRAIN SAME GO S FOR DOGS THAT JACKS YOU MUST REMBER THERE IS SOME TOP DOGS OUT THERE [LINES] THE WOULDENT BE THERE IF PEOPLE WHANTED HOUSE PETS AS YOU SAID ITS A SPORT TELL ONE A MAN DOESENT WHANT TO WIN}

there are some very strong lines of coursing dogs in ireland at the minute but they dont come on here they keep it to themselves and the pups are gone before there born.ps and they are not going for mad amounts off money.

 

 

whats your point or question

go and spend a few quid on pups out of a strong none jacking line.ps are there any well known jacking lines in england as when it comes up it seames all them in ireland.

[jeff20 14]

would one be happy puting 500 pound on a match knowing his own dog has a history of jacking lol

 

given all the above points injurys etc

haveing and knowing your dog is fit even super fit and you slip him and he runs 30 yards and stops

make your own mind up

[jeff20 14]

t 12 the reason you dont hear about to many jackers in uk we dont live in hope we start over agan and agan untill we have it right

 

ps not saying we have no jackers i have seen many over the years

 

i am not trying to befunny but its year own topics