hancock

[pitt-general 16]

All hancock is a puppy peddler breeding shit , rubbing rags

[birddog 1,354]

Just for your info guys I have seen them run and they couldn't catch a fox in a telephone box never mind kill it pre ban of course

 

And rake abboot do 1 ya mincer

rakes been in the game for years bud he currently has a hancock bred lurcher to lurcher thats half collie thats looking like he's gonna really do well, please explain where your knowledge comes from

[I'm...a ...ginger 11]

It's not the dogs that are at fault as often they can be good, although its more of a lottery when bought from a mass producer of dogs.

 

Its just 'Puppy farming' that grates with me, it cant be defended on any level.

 

Its for your own conscience to decide, if you want to support 'Puppy Farming' go for it.

 

Definition of Farm:

 

'an area of land, together with a house and buildings, used for growing crops and/or keeping animals as a business'

'a place where a particular type of animal is raised in large numbers to be sold'

 

They will all over look your post.. because FACTS ARE FACTS.. and if they have one and are happy with it they don't care where its come from.. bit like people who buy nicked dogs

[pitt-general 16]

My knowledge comes from working the fields chum

[birddog 1,354]

My knowledge comes from working the fields chum

it would appear so it's just that we don't hunt foxes (pre ban of course) in telephone boxes, but maybe thats how we can't catch them.... just out of curiosity working in the fields what were you doing? pulling turnips......digging tatties?

[johnny boy68 11,726]

Be interesting to see how the pups fair from this dog thats being worked.

[birddog 1,354]

Be interesting to see how the pups fair from this dog thats being worked.

will the fact that he's being worked make his pups better? does him working alter the genetics?

[johnny boy68 11,726]

Be interesting to see how the pups fair from this dog thats being worked.

will the fact that he's being worked make his pups better? does him working alter the genetics?

It would give people peace of mind that at least the sire as seen some work, I know feck all about genetics mate, I'm pig ugly but my kids are beautiful(genetics hey) !

[johnny boy68 11,726]

I've seen a lot of Hancock dogs over the years of all percentages, owned a couple too. The one underlying factor I found with these was it was usually the handler that had the bearing on how they turned out. Though has in any litter(tried and untried) theres invariably some that ain't got the minerals even with the best breeding in the world behind it.

 

What makes Hancock so popular is the fact that you get what you pay for, how many people are breeding 5/8 3/8's? I'm not condoning how he breeds BUT not all have the contacts to find a good collie/grey pup, in fact most litters of collie greys are gone before they hit the floor.

[Flipper_Al 1,012]

My knowledge comes from working the fields chum

 

Are you a scarecrow.....?

[birddog 1,354]

I've seen a lot of Hancock dogs over the years of all percentages, owned a couple too. The one underlying factor I found with these was it was usually the handler that had the bearing on how they turned out. Though has in any litter(tried and untried) theres invariably some that ain't got the minerals even with the best breeding in the world behind it.

 

What makes Hancock so popular is the fact that you get what you pay for, how many people are breeding 5/8 3/8's? I'm not condoning how he breeds BUT not all have the contacts to find a good collie/grey pup, in fact most litters of collie greys are gone before they hit the floor.

i agree that the way he breeds is not ideal and that handlers are often to blame but the handlers expectations are often way wrong..a collie x is a collie x in the main theyr'e not meant for whins open big land or as single handed fen dogs but if your into lamping rough pasture or ferreting woodland etc they do take some beating

[kabar 14]

I've got a 3/4 dog that'll be three come December. I've put a lot of work into his training and he will use his nose to find his own game, work with a terrier to bushed game, work with ferrets, retrieve to the shotgun (but not pigeons) and he returns live to hand. He's not worked out how to lamp yet but this season may see to that as he was improving by the end of the last.

He is though quite a challenge, from the day I got him home he was nervous, he would cry and howl all the time he was in his kennel and if you raise your voice or give him a clip he's terrified and if pushed I suspect he'd bite out of fear. He's been dead easy to train to sit, stay, jump and retrieve but still gets too excited at times for my liking, especialy around other dogs.

He has that collie fixation with everything he likes, such as any exercise or work, as soon as I go near the back door regardless of what time of day it is he's behind me bouncing up and down in the hope that were going out (it may sound endearing but after two and a half years i'd hoped he'd of calmed down little).

In my opinion he's too much collie brain in him, I believe his lack of early socialisation prior to me getting him at 8 weeks to be responsible for his nervous nature at times as well as his bad reaction to being left alone in his kennel, which had to be addressed by a shock collar in the end or he would have gone.

I have kept him because he does me a fair job with my hobby, (I'm no tyro hunter but get about a bit when I can), if I had the benefit of hindsight and the knowledge of some one I could trust selling a litter of collie cross pups that were what they said they were then I would probably go for one of those instead of using Mr Hancock.

With regard to the ethics of using Mr Hancock, that's a matter for each person to decide upon for them selves. If you ask Mr Hancock a question about how he goes about his business he will give you an honest answer. He has been doing it for a long time and if most of his dogs were useless he could not afford to continue I suspect.

 

[johnny boy68 11,726]

I've got a 3/4 dog that'll be three come December. I've put a lot of work into his training and he will use his nose to find his own game, work with a terrier to bushed game, work with ferrets, retrieve to the shotgun (but not pigeons) and he returns live to hand. He's not worked out how to lamp yet but this season may see to that as he was improving by the end of the last.

He is though quite a challenge, from the day I got him home he was nervous, he would cry and howl all the time he was in his kennel and if you raise your voice or give him a clip he's terrified and if pushed I suspect he'd bite out of fear. He's been dead easy to train to sit, stay, jump and retrieve but still gets too excited at times for my liking, especialy around other dogs.

He has that collie fixation with everything he likes, such as any exercise or work, as soon as I go near the back door regardless of what time of day it is he's behind me bouncing up and down in the hope that were going out (it may sound endearing but after two and a half years i'd hoped he'd of calmed down little).

In my opinion he's too much collie brain in him, I believe his lack of early socialisation prior to me getting him at 8 weeks to be responsible for his nervous nature at times as well as his bad reaction to being left alone in his kennel, which had to be addressed by a shock collar in the end or he would have gone.

I have kept him because he does me a fair job with my hobby, (I'm no tyro hunter but get about a bit when I can), if I had the benefit of hindsight and the knowledge of some one I could trust selling a litter of collie cross pups that were what they said they were then I would probably go for one of those instead of using Mr Hancock.

With regard to the ethics of using Mr Hancock, that's a matter for each person to decide upon for them selves. If you ask Mr Hancock a question about how he goes about his business he will give you an honest answer. He has been doing it for a long time and if most of his dogs were useless he could not afford to continue I suspect.

Honest post that mate, the socialising side of the pups from Hancocks is something that should be addressed by Sally tbh.

[pitt-general 16]

Birddog your a helmet

[THELURCHERANDLONGDOG 91]

All hancock is a puppy peddler breeding shit , rubbing rags

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