chartpolski 23,386 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 "Prick" ears IS a fault in SHOW Whippets........ but means absolutely NOTHING in working or racing Whippets. Cheers. Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 This lad is must have the worst of breeding then ,but he keeps me and the ferrets well stocked with bunnies, and Chartpolski,is it them ears ,why you never gave him anything in Birr LOL :laugh: Quote Link to post
iworkwhippets 12,525 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Up n down like a whoers draws, who gives a monkies, she does the job thats all i care about 3 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,386 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 This lad is must have the worst of breeding then ,but he keeps me and the ferrets well stocked with bunnies, and Chartpolski,is it them ears ,why you never gave him anything in Birr LOL :laugh: If I gave him nothing at Birr, it'll definately have been because there was others that conformed to the Whippet Standard better than him. That's the reason I prefer judging Whippets than Lurchers. With Whippets you have a recognised standard to work to; with Lurchers, it's basicaly what takes the Judges eye. Birr was a good show, and a few people even came up and thanked me and shook my hand, people who didn't win, even !! Shows are just for fun, in my mind. If your dog pleases you in the field, then you have a WINNER , whatever it's ears are like ! Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 This lad is must have the worst of breeding then ,but he keeps me and the ferrets well stocked with bunnies, and Chartpolski,is it them ears ,why you never gave him anything in Birr LOL :laugh: If I gave him nothing at Birr, it'll definately have been because there was others that conformed to the Whippet Standard better than him. That's the reason I prefer judging Whippets than Lurchers. With Whippets you have a recognised standard to work to; with Lurchers, it's basicaly what takes the Judges eye. Birr was a good show, and a few people even came up and thanked me and shook my hand, people who didn't win, even !! Shows are just for fun, in my mind. If your dog pleases you in the field, then you have a WINNER , whatever it's ears are like ! Cheers. I was one of them to come up to you that day and shake your hand ,and i have to say you where the most throuagh judges i have ever had run his hands over my dogs,one of the best i ever came across 2 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Certain lines of whippets (and the lurcher hybrids created from them),..seem to have the pricked ears.. Personaly I like to see a Pedigree whippet with nice tight 'rose ears' ,.but aesthetics aside,..when them auld ears go up,..it is often a definite sign, that they have locked on to a target and the game is on Whatever,..they are beautiful wee speedsters, and very effective at what they do... All the best, CW.. Quote Link to post
iworkwhippets 12,525 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Locked onto a target, spot on, knows ya stuff you do pal Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 showing ye inexperience there now moll, thats not a whippet, its a tumbler Groan Quote Link to post
mally 832 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 "Prick" ears IS a fault in SHOW Whippets........ but means absolutely NOTHING in working or racing Whippets. Cheers. I consider it a fault in all whippets Chartpolski, just like the shallow chest in racing x working lines. I did alot of research when i was looking for a suitable stud dog for Jess to produce Sagar, and a lot of folk slagged me off for using show blood. The reason i used show blood is i didn't like the look and conformation of alot of the working lines and i wanted to breed as close to the standard as possible. Some people say breed worker to worker but whats the point in that if they both have bad faults. Jess was a good worker but the stud dog i used hadn't caught a rabbit in it's life, however he was the best dog that suited jess, the end result is probably the best lamping/ferreting bitch i've had the pleasure of breeding/owning. It's horses for courses but i prefer a whippet to look like a whippet.... 1 Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 What would you have done if the litter turned out to be useless workers though Mally. Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I consider it a fault in all whippets I can't agree with you on that unless all you are into is rosette hunting..a thing that does not interest me in the slightest..i'm into the hunting with dog's side of thing's and it make's no difference what so ever what they look like aslong as they catch game and but it in the bag..Boo is a cracking dog on the lamp and daytime at the bunnie's do you think he would be better if he had show standard ear's.. ..for some reason i think not.. 2 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,386 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 If I was judging a Whippet, I would mark it down for bad ear carriage, and also weak chest; BUT I would consider a weak chest a far more serious fault than bad ear carriage in a Working or Racing Whippet, and, as you know, I, also, like a Whippet to look like a Whippet, and have made my feelings known on other forums about 55 lb "Whippets" !! LOL !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I get a little confused. My whippets ears are normal some of the time, and pricked up at other times, usually when he is really excited, can hear something or is very focused on prey. Also, surely the idea of 'breed standards', has been pretty damaging to a lot of breeds, with an obsession of what it 'should' look like, rather than general health, and ability to carry out a function / task. Now obviously, i guess, there have to be some limits, in order to define a 'breed', but i'm not understanding how working dog men, can say something is a 'bad fault' when it's purely asthetic, and has absolutly no bearing whatsoever on function, or ability. I would always say breed worker x worker and only worry about the faults if they are related to health or ability. It's like saying, you pick one dog over another as a stud, even though it's not done a days work in it's life, because it's color matches your dogs, and will give a nice evenly matched litter. 3 Quote Link to post
mally 832 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I get a little confused. My whippets ears are normal some of the time, and pricked up at other times, usually when he is really excited, can hear something or is very focused on prey. Also, surely the idea of 'breed standards', has been pretty damaging to a lot of breeds, with an obsession of what it 'should' look like, rather than general health, and ability to carry out a function / task. Now obviously, i guess, there have to be some limits, in order to define a 'breed', but i'm not understanding how working dog men, can say something is a 'bad fault' when it's purely asthetic, and has absolutly no bearing whatsoever on function, or ability. I would always say breed worker x worker and only worry about the faults if they are related to health or ability. It's like saying, you pick one dog over another as a stud, even though it's not done a days work in it's life, because it's color matches your dogs, and will give a nice evenly matched litter. I've seen alot of worker to worker litters mate, and i'd be horrified if i'd bred them. It's each to there own but believe me when i say even though i used a non working stud dog to produce Vixen it hasn't effected her working ability in anyway as people on here who have seen her work will confirm. I also used a show dog over Vixen to produce 'Sagar' and he's a good grafter too. 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I get a little confused. My whippets ears are normal some of the time, and pricked up at other times, usually when he is really excited, can hear something or is very focused on prey. Also, surely the idea of 'breed standards', has been pretty damaging to a lot of breeds, with an obsession of what it 'should' look like, rather than general health, and ability to carry out a function / task. Now obviously, i guess, there have to be some limits, in order to define a 'breed', but i'm not understanding how working dog men, can say something is a 'bad fault' when it's purely asthetic, and has absolutly no bearing whatsoever on function, or ability. I would always say breed worker x worker and only worry about the faults if they are related to health or ability. It's like saying, you pick one dog over another as a stud, even though it's not done a days work in it's life, because it's color matches your dogs, and will give a nice evenly matched litter. I've seen alot of worker to worker litters mate, and i'd be horrified if i'd bred them. It's each to there own but believe me when i say even though i used a non working stud dog to produce Vixen it hasn't effected her working ability in anyway as people on here who have seen her work will confirm. I also used a show dog over Vixen to produce 'Sagar' and he's a good grafter too. I'm not knocking your whippets at all mate, i've heard from all that have seen them, that they are top! However, it just doesnt sit well, this idea of breeding for a asthetic specification? Out of interest, why would you have been horrified by said worker x worker litters? Quote Link to post
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