lurche 48 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 well this was my grandfathers bill hook quite old and is having a make over,these are piks of before i started and of some pieces of wood im going to use for the handle think the elm is the one for me,since the pictures i have removed the handle and straightened it up,wed will be the day to take the grinder to it. the handle will be hand made with a brass collar more piks later in the week 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billybaltic 308 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Like the walnut piece myself, is that wax what is around the edge, if yes, why is there wax around them, what is the purpose of the wax, probably sound's a daft question, but when you don't know, you ask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnight 657 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 good luck with it ! go steady with the grinder its easy to remove to much or just plunge in and make it uneaven . slow is smooth smooth is fast ha ha . im looking forward to seeing the finnished project . all the best , matt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjbull 38 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 think they put it on to stop it splitting billy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurche 48 Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Like the walnut piece myself, is that wax what is around the edge, if yes, why is there wax around them, what is the purpose of the wax, probably sound's a daft question, but when you don't know, you ask. i will find out for you mate i did read it somewhere but cant find it now it is some sort of wax apparently to keep the fibres together ?! . i only purchased them yesturday for £1.30 each they measure between 10 an 6 inch each and are 2 inch deep but the walnut is only 1.5 inch so will have to see how they look when they arrive.i origionally was after spalted or burr but the prices were getting high and as its my first one went for something reasonable but cheap,the 3 including delivery is just over a tenner dont know how expensive this is but should get 2-3 handles out of each so doesnt seem to bad. cheers matt do you think it will be possible to take it to a full shine or is that asking a bit much? atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnight 657 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 no with enough elbow grease it will go to mirror finnish . its a shame your not coming over with it i have a machine that would surface grind it flat and take it to an even 120 grit finnish , would have saved lots of work and establish a grain to the metal . the wax on the wood is to stop splitting as the wood continues to dry , the cut edge would dihidrate faster and cause warping/splitting . it justs sands away ! it does look beautiful wood ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 no with enough elbow grease it will go to mirror finnish . its a shame your not coming over with it i have a machine that would surface grind it flat and take it to an even 120 grit finnish , would have saved lots of work and establish a grain to the metal . the wax on the wood is to stop splitting as the wood continues to dry , the cut edge would dihidrate faster and cause warping/splitting . it justs sands away ! it does loom beautiful wood ! could have said you had a surface grinder before i went and brought a new brake disc for the lads scooter the otherday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurche 48 Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 no with enough elbow grease it will go to mirror finnish . its a shame your not coming over with it i have a machine that would surface grind it flat and take it to an even 120 grit finnish , would have saved lots of work and establish a grain to the metal . the wax on the wood is to stop splitting as the wood continues to dry , the cut edge would dihidrate faster and cause warping/splitting . it justs sands away ! it does loom beautiful wood ! will the linisher do the same job? i have bought some 60 and flap paddles for the grinder but have 120 400 800 and 1200 and a sanding block also a buffing wheel that im hoping will be ok ,not sure which grit is on the linisher ,might just give it a quick blast and do the rest by hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnight 657 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 im sure it will but there is no short cut to getting it mirror you need every grade form 60. . 120. 240. 320. 400 ,600, 800, 1000, 1500, then final 2000. then buff with a cesil mop and brown compound in all directions , clean all the compound off then a stitched mop with green compund , clean again then go with an unstitched cotton mop and pink or white compound . every time you change to a new grit you need to move only in one direction ie realy straight , but you need to change direction with every paper grit . if that makes sence unles its a knife makers linisher the grits will be to harsh and they are realy for shaping and grinding , the polishing comes from the finer grits . its such a large flat surface id be worried i might not keep it flat . if you staple the paper over a flat lump of wood wider than the blade you have a handle either side of the blade and the paper in the midel , staple it tight as you can , a hard backing serface really helps . i wish it was a surface grinder paul is a massive belt sand i use as a surface grinder by mounting the blade to a jig . i duno if it would have got the precise finnsh you want on a brake disk ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurche 48 Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 apparently the wax has to be removed before the final finish is applied ,these have been in a warehouse a few years so should be well seasoned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 im sure it will but there is no short cut to getting it mirror you need every grade form 60. . 120. 240. 320. 400 ,600, 800, 1000, 1500, then final 2000. then buff with a cesil mop and brown compound in all directions , clean all the compound off then a stitched mop with green compund , clean again then go with an unstitched cotton mop and pink or white compound . every time you change to a new grit you need to move only in one direction ie realy straight , but you need to change direction with every paper grit . if that makes sence unles its a knife makers linisher the grits will be to harsh and they are realy for shaping and grinding , the polishing comes from the finer grits . its such a large flat surface id be worried i might not keep it flat . if you staple the paper over a flat lump of wood wider than the blade you have a handle either side of the blade and the paper in the midel , staple it tight as you can , a hard backing serface really helps . i wish it was a surface grinder paul is a massive belt sand i use as a surface grinder by mounting the blade to a jig . i duno if it would have got the precise finnsh you want on a brake disk ? ive brought him a new one now, wonder what i can do with the old one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurche 48 Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 so you need to go through every grit individually? .are these a rubbing type compound similair to g3 for car paint . hoped i might be able to jump a few grits and it wouldnt make to much diference . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
henarchchar 64 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 i tried to jump a few grits went badly wrong but you learn more from failure than success ( well its a theory anyway) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 i tried to jump a few grits went badly wrong but you learn more from failure than success ( well its a theory anyway) feck me if only that was true :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
henarchchar 64 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 i tried to jump a few grits went badly wrong but you learn more from failure than success ( well its a theory anyway) feck me if only that was true :laugh: but it would mean i would learn lots because i do have a lot of feck ups Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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