"Working terrier" shows

[Cleanspade 3,322]

theres also the old razor trick by nicking the dogs skin to get the scars why people do it is beyond me. but in my own opinion they should drop WORKING terrier show to just terrier show cause unless they bring live prey in to work like the old shows did then id just see show type dogs not workers as we all know ya cant even kill a fkn rat incase ya offend some bird molester or bunny hugger. also stops any bitching at the shows after that. and if they did bring back the old trials then yad se the workers from the spice dogs (show stuff bred to only look good) afraid to do a days graft

If trials came back(which they wont Thank God)Eighty percent of the people from this site would not be let in to the County,never mind the field.

why would you not want the trials back it would sort out the shite from the good , stop all the sh1t talk and back ripping of everybodies dogs that happen here, i personally would love to go to a show with trials in it

By all the alleged facts you give on here,would you be invited?

what alleged facts? by giving an opinion on the old ways that people used to go to to sell shit dogs? dont see any harm in it as i dont do it myself. but ya have to agree it would sort out the workers from the bluffers if the trials were brought back.

It is a myth that people cut dogs to sell them,any decent terrier man would know a Gillette blade,or a tin of Pedigree Chum scar from working marks on a dog.I can just see the trial now with THLs finest asking the local Garda for directions,and posting the organizers address on here.Then we could have a debate on here the next day as to why Mister 22 inch Bull Lurchers dog did not win.

obviously the dogs being sold were kept away from the experienced men but to the unsuspecting new comer they were sold on to make a few quid, dont know why your taking the hump on the topic it happened in the 70s n 80s. well at least if the dogs got tested at the trials then they could call it a WORKING TERRIER SHOW

Why do you say i am taking the hump?because I am giving my opinion(it is nothing personal just my opinion)I was around in the 70s and 80s and back then they said the lads from the 50s done it,thats all it is just a myth,the same myth as my friend has a terrier that kills badgers to ground.As Fatman said trials would be a waste of time for terriers(as they always were)he just walks up a little shore and the game is in front of him,any cur dog can do that.Dytkos I probably am very naive (being from the backwaters)but i have been around long enough to understand bullshit when i hear it.What is there to sweep under the carpet,that there are idiots in terriers,they were always there and always will be,but dont we get a great laugh out of them.Just read some of the threads on here dont they be hilarious?

myth in your neck of the woods but not round here know ones that saw it being done

I know a fellow that told me he saw a Leprechaun but I know there are none.I knew a girl who swore she was married to Daniel oDonnell twenty years ago,A fellow told me he was abducted my Aliens in Roscrea.Everybody knows a fellow who knows a fellow who had a cousin who fought in the GPO and his sisters third cousin once removed, ran messages for Nial of the Nine Hostages at the Battle Of Ocha.It is called hearsay.

 

lmfao. :laugh: .

[bulljack 480]

i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game.

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

theres also the old razor trick by nicking the dogs skin to get the scars why people do it is beyond me. but in my own opinion they should drop WORKING terrier show to just terrier show cause unless they bring live prey in to work like the old shows did then id just see show type dogs not workers as we all know ya cant even kill a fkn rat incase ya offend some bird molester or bunny hugger. also stops any bitching at the shows after that. and if they did bring back the old trials then yad se the workers from the spice dogs (show stuff bred to only look good) afraid to do a days graft

If trials came back(which they wont Thank God)Eighty percent of the people from this site would not be let in to the County,never mind the field.

why would you not want the trials back it would sort out the shite from the good , stop all the sh1t talk and back ripping of everybodies dogs that happen here, i personally would love to go to a show with trials in it

By all the alleged facts you give on here,would you be invited?

what alleged facts? by giving an opinion on the old ways that people used to go to to sell shit dogs? dont see any harm in it as i dont do it myself. but ya have to agree it would sort out the workers from the bluffers if the trials were brought back.

It is a myth that people cut dogs to sell them,any decent terrier man would know a Gillette blade,or a tin of Pedigree Chum scar from working marks on a dog.I can just see the trial now with THLs finest asking the local Garda for directions,and posting the organizers address on here.Then we could have a debate on here the next day as to why Mister 22 inch Bull Lurchers dog did not win.

obviously the dogs being sold were kept away from the experienced men but to the unsuspecting new comer they were sold on to make a few quid, dont know why your taking the hump on the topic it happened in the 70s n 80s. well at least if the dogs got tested at the trials then they could call it a WORKING TERRIER SHOW

Why do you say i am taking the hump?because I am giving my opinion(it is nothing personal just my opinion)I was around in the 70s and 80s and back then they said the lads from the 50s done it,thats all it is just a myth,the same myth as my friend has a terrier that kills badgers to ground.As Fatman said trials would be a waste of time for terriers(as they always were)he just walks up a little shore and the game is in front of him,any cur dog can do that.Dytkos I probably am very naive (being from the backwaters)but i have been around long enough to understand bullshit when i hear it.What is there to sweep under the carpet,that there are idiots in terriers,they were always there and always will be,but dont we get a great laugh out of them.Just read some of the threads on here dont they be hilarious?

myth in your neck of the woods but not round here know ones that saw it being done

I know a fellow that told me he saw a Leprechaun but I know there are none.I knew a girl who swore she was married to Daniel oDonnell twenty years ago,A fellow told me he was abducted my Aliens in Roscrea.Everybody knows a fellow who knows a fellow who had a cousin who fought in the GPO and his sisters third cousin once removed, ran messages for Nial of the Nine Hostages at the Battle Of Ocha.It is called hearsay.

you forgot about your grannies nieces nephews sisters aunties pet pirahana, fcuksake liam just because you havent saw it then it dont exist lolololololololol ok god . ps i hope you give daniel his tapes back he lended you Edited July 27, 2012 by BIG G wheton machine

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game.

cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way

[fat man 4,741]

Dont think anyone said the dogs at the trials did not work,what was said was they did not have to do a lot at a trial,especially the terriers as to stay in a shoot sounding a there game for 6min imo is not working.A terrier in the field for instance it could take them a lot longer to just find there game in a big place and then have to stay until dug which could be many hours and you cant pull a lid up and lift them when it suits.The strong dogs done what was asked of them again for 6min in silence as was the law but again they had to do a lot more while out in the field hunting.1 thing i will say is that i have attended 2 shows to date and a lot of the terriers i have seen been paraded around the ring i dont thing they would do even 6mim in a shoot,lol but i have also seen some tidy looking grafters aswell.Some people just enjoy showing their dogs and faie enough thats up to them but i think they should stay out of the working dog cl

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

Dont think anyone said the dogs at the trials did not work,what was said was they did not have to do a lot at a trial,especially the terriers as to stay in a shoot sounding a there game for 6min imo is not working.A terrier in the field for instance it could take them a lot longer to just find there game in a big place and then have to stay until dug which could be many hours and you cant pull a lid up and lift them when it suits.The strong dogs done what was asked of them again for 6min in silence as was the law but again they had to do a lot more while out in the field hunting.1 thing i will say is that i have attended 2 shows to date and a lot of the terriers i have seen been paraded around the ring i dont thing they would do even 6mim in a shoot,lol but i have also seen some tidy looking grafters aswell.Some people just enjoy showing their dogs and faie enough thats up to them but i think they should stay out of the working dog cl

thats a good point thats worth reading. it was just my opinion that if there was trials at shows then at least yad see a dog doin a bit of work then it could be entered into a working terrier show, i just dont know why the dogs at the working terrier shows that win look like theyve came outa a salon lol, so how come they can rip the back outa crufts for show dogs on how they look nicely trimmed washed etc whenever 90% of the time the wt show judges do the same. thats all

[tillearthdouspart 100]

It was nt all tunnel work some earths were used but i will say im only going on what i was told way to young to seen that carry on. But seen great old photos of the type a terrier trials they did here in this area at the time plenty men and women joined in the digs wish he was still around would ask him so much more.

[tillearthdouspart 100]

Dont think anyone said the dogs at the trials did not work,what was said was they did not have to do a lot at a trial,especially the terriers as to stay in a shoot sounding a there game for 6min imo is not working.A terrier in the field for instance it could take them a lot longer to just find there game in a big place and then have to stay until dug which could be many hours and you cant pull a lid up and lift them when it suits.The strong dogs done what was asked of them again for 6min in silence as was the law but again they had to do a lot more while out in the field hunting.1 thing i will say is that i have attended 2 shows to date and a lot of the terriers i have seen been paraded around the ring i dont thing they would do even 6mim in a shoot,lol but i have also seen some tidy looking grafters aswell.Some people just enjoy showing their dogs and faie enough thats up to them but i think they should stay out of the working dog cl

thats a good point thats worth reading. it was just my opinion that if there was trials at shows then at least yad see a dog doin a bit of work then it could be entered into a working terrier show, i just dont know why the dogs at the working terrier shows that win look like theyve came outa a salon lol, so how come they can rip the back outa crufts for show dogs on how they look nicely trimmed washed etc whenever 90% of the time the wt show judges do the same. thats all

I see were your coming from a working terrier belongs in the field for working nothing else FULLSTOP.......................................

[fat man 4,741]

For the trials it had to be tunnel work as the dogs were lifted every 6min so if it were an earth how would a judge score a dog,he had to be able to be in close contact with said dog ?

[tillearthdouspart 100]

I think it was more of an outing they had showing their dogs at work underground but at a set location. A good day out either way .Not trying to mislead the word trial but their were other ways they proved their terriers other than the tunnel job.

Edited July 28, 2012 by tillearthdouspart

[bulljack 480]

i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game.

cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way

yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho.

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game.

cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way

yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho.

well mate i cant argu with that. i know what ya mean from expirence.

[blackdog4 75]

i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game.

cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way

yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho.

well mate i cant argu with that. i know what ya mean from expirence.

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[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game.

cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way

yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho.

why did the wheatens have to dig on did yas not clear the holes out right or was your earth dogs sitting too far back?

[Cleanspade 3,322]

funny how a show topic can go off at such a tangent.