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[12 gauge 39]

he was bred by a friend in the black country uk and his offspring ended up in oklahoma, if i remember right he had a good amount of stafford in him

[12 gauge 39]

his name was coalpool black bill, not black ice bill, his name was later changed to mccoy's grip, if we are discussing the same dog that is

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[Griz 89]

I think that Grips sire was a Staff as was told to me by McCoy.

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[DavidR 24]

I saw on Game Dog Forum a guy that claimed to have bred McCoys Grip going by the name (Jack The Lad). I also seen grips sires name was Snatcher, dams was Snake, maybe this helps.

[DavidR 24]

Sorry, Bills sire & dam. Also seen the name of CoalPools Bills Sire as Glenstaff Bill the Drill, and dam as Beverly's Girl, but you know how papers go!!!!!

[Glyn..... 5,208]

i always thought the grip dog was a staff x from W.A from the midlands

[12 gauge 39]

rapparee staff blood in them uru to a patterdale produced coalpool black bill then sent to oklahoma. got pics of the mating and all but not sure if the owner is ok with me sharing them. good rough and intelligent patt x's that black ice threw, in fact there are still dogs off his offspring working bred back to gould patts for years now. m&m had some good results with this blood in the past it's what i understand.

[Dirtworm 18]

I have a red male that goes back to coal pools black ice. Super inbred back to black ice. Mostly Gould bred. Bred him to a inbred Scottish JR. Have a nine week old male pup that's acting great for being so young. Will post pics when I can.

 

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[Cleanspade 3,322]

I have a red male that goes back to coal pools black ice. Super inbred back to black ice. Mostly Gould bred. Bred him to a inbred Scottish JR. Have a nine week old male pup that's acting great for being so young. Will post pics when I can.

 

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have you the breeding of the inbred dirtworm.?

[Dirtworm 18]

Coal pools black ice was a Irish bred game staffy bull. When bred to a pure patt he produced Grip.

 

Spade, will have to find his peds, he's tight inbred coalpool on top and old nuttal blood on bottom. He comes out of a good dog named Taz whose father is Lowrider. McCoy stuff.

[Saho-man 50]

Coal pools black ice was a Irish bred game staffy bull. When bred to a pure patt he produced Grip.

 

Spade, will have to find his peds, he's tight inbred coalpool on top and old nuttal blood on bottom. He comes out of a good dog named Taz whose father is Lowrider. McCoy stuff.

dublin red irish staff ?