Saho-man 50 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 has anyone hunted with this dog or offsprings like Danny. they are mentioned in the book work them hard treat them like heroes . also did he own the parents and grand parents of gin. ' is it his line ' . we have dogs that go back to him. Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,469 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Gouldy and Stacey stuff. Had a very good dog directly sired by Gin, he was a top class terrier "Tom", k ryall spoke about him in Blucks book. Gin IMO threw a lot of bullies, hard as nails untill pushed. 3 Quote Link to post
Caib 49 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) ... Edited July 17, 2012 by Caib Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Gouldy and Stacey stuff. Had a very good dog directly sired by Gin, he was a top class terrier "Tom", k ryall spoke about him in Blucks book. Gin IMO threw a lot of bullies, hard as nails untill pushed. did you breed from Tom and if so did he throw stuff as good as himself? 1 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,469 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Tom was bred by the chap calling himself "Franky Owen" in the EDRD. Tom was by Gin and out of a Nuttall bitch called Dice, Dice was bred by Arthur Wells. Tom entered "easy as" and was what can only be described as recklass, when i found out Roy had lost Gin Tom was in his first season and going well, i phoned Roy and offered Tom as a replacement. I last saw Tom work on an invite with Karl when he was doing the terrier work for the AVH, by then Tom had settled down to a good steady style of work. I couldn't tell you if Tom was a producer, i had my path and Roy had his so apart from Tom i never owned a dog from that line again. 1 Quote Link to post
"Earth!" 503 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Tom was bred by the chap calling himself "Franky Owen" in the EDRD. Tom was by Gin and out of a Nuttall bitch called Dice, Dice was bred by Arthur Wells. Tom entered "easy as" and was what can only be described as recklass, when i found out Roy had lost Gin Tom was in his first season and going well, i phoned Roy and offered Tom as a replacement. I last saw Tom work on an invite with Karl when he was doing the terrier work for the AVH, by then Tom had settled down to a good steady style of work. I couldn't tell you if Tom was a producer, i had my path and Roy had his so apart from Tom i never owned a dog from that line again. Is Tom in the line of the terriers karl, Paul and i have Daz?? Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,469 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Tom was bred by the chap calling himself "Franky Owen" in the EDRD. Tom was by Gin and out of a Nuttall bitch called Dice, Dice was bred by Arthur Wells. Tom entered "easy as" and was what can only be described as recklass, when i found out Roy had lost Gin Tom was in his first season and going well, i phoned Roy and offered Tom as a replacement. I last saw Tom work on an invite with Karl when he was doing the terrier work for the AVH, by then Tom had settled down to a good steady style of work. I couldn't tell you if Tom was a producer, i had my path and Roy had his so apart from Tom i never owned a dog from that line again. Is Tom in the line of the terriers karl, Paul and i have Daz?? As far as i know mate no not at all, there may well be blood from Gin through Max but not Tom. Quote Link to post
chilli 381 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Dilly Dog .I think Graig has a dog also called Tom that is bred through Tom , Frankie Owen has mentioned to me in the past . Edited July 17, 2012 by chilli 1 Quote Link to post
Caib 49 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I worked a few terriers related to Gin 1 was his brother as Dilly said they were bullies and most spewed when the going got tough Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Gouldy and Stacey stuff. Had a very good dog directly sired by Gin, he was a top class terrier "Tom", k ryall spoke about him in Blucks book. Gin IMO threw a lot of bullies, hard as nails untill pushed. dillydog how far back is stacey stuff in Gin, and what gould in his breeding, was it smithy? Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,469 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 working nights mate, i'll have a look when i get in and pm you the breeding. Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 working nights mate, i'll have a look when i get in and pm you the breeding. ta mate Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,442 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Gouldy and Stacey stuff. Had a very good dog directly sired by Gin, he was a top class terrier "Tom", k ryall spoke about him in Blucks book. Gin IMO threw a lot of bullies, hard as nails untill pushed. dillydog how far back is stacey stuff in Gin, and what gould in his breeding, was it smithy? Gin was out of DH,s Jack who was by Smithy possibly over a Smithy daughter if my memory serves me right,Gin was a litter brother to DH,s Vicky. 2 Quote Link to post
Saho-man 50 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) did DH have 2 Gins. because in his book work them hard, he says in page 205 in the picture " vicky ( right ) with her daughter Gin. 1989 than on page 289 he says about boozer and moira.. " both sired by R Evans' Gin, litter brother to my Vicky. " so is gin daughter of vicky or little mate to vicky. in regards to jack he says that smithy was his father and grand father and jack was out of KG's Jill.and than he talked bout how many people claimed to have bred jack.. dillydog could u also pm. Edited July 18, 2012 by Saho-man Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 'Gin' that Harcombe owned was a bitch out of 'Jack', R Evans 'Gin' was a dog also out of 'Jack'. 1 Quote Link to post
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