Hancock....

[Rake aboot 4,936]

I can fully understand your veiw Si,

 

It`s the "condmen them all cause I once saw a shit one" brigade that fizz my piss.

[Simoman 110]

I can fully understand your veiw Si,

 

It`s the "condmen them all cause I once saw a shit one" brigade that fizz my piss.

 

I agree, good and bad in all, my lamping partner had one in the 90's, never saw it but he told me it was a decent rabbit and hare dog and I don't doubt his word. Its not just commercial breeders, in fact a bigger problem are those who put any old lurcher over another just to make a few quid, which always baffles with as some pedigrees can fetch a grand or more rather than a few hundred for a lurcher pup..............

[MOO 730]

Ok rake about if you are going to get your kniicker in a twist we will turn this aguement around can any one name a hancock bred dog or bitch that was considered up there with the best of them and for every hancock bred dog from untested parents I will name 3 top dogs bred form decent stuff ....thats the thing when Hancock bred dogs are spoke about ....the phrase they do what I want is used alot and thats fair enough thats what they are your average mooching lurcher and if there owners are happy then thats the main thing but no one should ever make them out to be anything there not...surely there are far better collie crosses out there being bred from worked parents that what Hancock has to offer

Edited July 17, 2012 by MOO

[Rabbiting man 1,191]

Cant see him breeding to many by 2013 when you got to microchip your dog by law.

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Ok rake about if you are going to get your kniicker in a twist we will turn this aguement around can any one name a hancock bred dog or bitch that was considered up there with the best of them and for every hancock bred dog from untested parents I will name 3 top dogs bred form decent stuff ....thats the thing when Hancock bred dogs are spoke about ....the phrase they do what I want is used alot and thats fair enough thats what they are your average mooching lurcher and if there owners are happy then thats the main thing but no one should ever make them out to be anything there not...surely there are far better collie crosses out there being bred from worked parents that what Hancock has to offer

 

Look at the percentages though Moo. How many lurchers are there in the UK and how many are Hancocks.?

 

I won`t be getting any knickers twisted, but,, You are talking about coursing lines. Bred for coursing, big name dogs that have won competitions, not yer avarage mans dog.

 

It`s always going to be a marmite subject, and if you can name lots more working lurchers that are top line dogs then thats fair do`s. But, people will like Hancocks , for whatever they are.

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Cant see him breeding to many by 2013 when you got to microchip your dog by law.

 

Why not ? He`s no different from any dog breeder.

[storm323 191]

What moo saying is right you can't deny that A guy breeding untested parents totally untested is wrong and I think the would make mooching dogs or part time lampers maybe some have turned out decent but how many have failed ? With breeding a good working collie to a well breed greyhound or a good collie x to another good collie x would be better results?

[hedz31 1,308]

Ive had 2 a 3/4 bred merle bitch and a 5/8ths 3/8th's beardie grey dog the bitch was poor and the dog very average

[dytkos 17,802]

I've had 2 also. Early 's, First cross beardie/border (Richard Jones) to Jade (grew), Dog.

Brilliant on fox but had the turning circle of an aircraft carrier on rabbs,

and second one about about 10 years ago, 3/4 bred Stormin' Norman bitch pup.

Half decent on all quarry but nothing special in any area.

Cheers, D.

[MOO 730]

Rake about I wasnt just talking about courseing blood there are a few dogs from the past and even alive today that have been or are what I and many others would class as top class working lurchers that most would want to own ...but one thing all these dogs have in common are tested ancestors that were worth breeding from in the first place .

[RossM 8,119]

As with any litter out there, you pay your money (or not) and take your chance, show a dog nothing and what chance has it got, give a dog a chance and it will show you what it can do or can't do.

 

Saw 2 myself one was decent on edible quarry, the other not so good.

[poacher92 32]

One of my pals had one a blue mearl 3/8 5/8s wasnt worth a wank would catch and pull stuff down but would let go once caught.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

One of my pals had one a blue mearl 3/8 5/8s wasnt worth a wank would catch and pull stuff down but would let go once caught.

Sounds like it could have made a reasonable dog in the right hands.

Your pal would have been better suited with a dog with natural killing instinct. Maybe a bull cross from a good working strain or indeed anything bred from parents proven in that work.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Maximus Ferret

[sikastag_1 689]

The only positive side I can see to going to Hancock is toucan get the exact cross you want and know that's exactly what your getting.

 

I know how hard it is to find a good working dog with even a little collie influence as iv been looking for a stud for a while so this is where Hancock can beat people.

 

My pride kept me from going anywhere near him when iv been looking for a pup as I was brought up that dogs and money don't mix and 1 certainly shouldn't be usde to make the other.

 

You can't deny the mans a peddler thousands of pups? No man on this earth needs thousands of pups unless he's trying to make money like Hancock therefore he's a peddler he spits out pups for money no matter what anybody tells theirself to make theirself feel better that's what he is. pups should only come about if the owner and or his/her friends need and want a dog from the dog/s used money should be the last thing on anybody's mind.

 

Just for the record I'm not knocking anybody's dog I know there has been some great dogs from his kennels but with percentages and owners time it's bound to happen, I just would be disappointed with myself lining the pocket of somebody using dogs for nothing other than pup machine so I won't be going.

[bunnys 1,228]

The only positive side I can see to going to Hancock is toucan get the exact cross you want and know that's exactly what your getting.

 

I know how hard it is to find a good working dog with even a little collie influence as iv been looking for a stud for a while so this is where Hancock can beat people.

 

My pride kept me from going anywhere near him when iv been looking for a pup as I was brought up that dogs and money don't mix and 1 certainly shouldn't be usde to make the other.

 

You can't deny the mans a peddler thousands of pups? No man on this earth needs thousands of pups unless he's trying to make money like Hancock therefore he's a peddler he spits out pups for money no matter what anybody tells theirself to make theirself feel better that's what he is. pups should only come about if the owner and or his/her friends need and want a dog from the dog/s used money should be the last thing on anybody's mind.

 

Just for the record I'm not knocking anybody's dog I know there has been some great dogs from his kennels but with percentages and owners time it's bound to happen, I just would be disappointed with myself lining the pocket of somebody using dogs for nothing other than pup machine so I won't be going.

thats a fare and honest post there will and as been decent enough workers from the said kennels and one could say there may have been more if not for those that fell in to incompetent handlers hands, but as one says the collie is pretty much one dimensional and i believe are a very good ingredient to beget the right type of edible game animal.atb bunnys.