foxfan 479 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Let me tell you, as socks said soldiers get paid fcuk all extra, they get paid the same whether they're sat on their arse or guarding the Olympics. So... Apart from fuel etc, the MOD won't have lost anything financially. If they haven't lost anything, legally they can't sue G4S because they have minimal to no losses. So all this crap about 'forcing' G4S to pay anything back is laughable. If they can 'prove' that they tried to recruit X Number of guards but circumstances were against them (even though we all know they didn't bother), then they won't be writing any cheques soon. I THINK YOU WILL FIND YOU ARE WRONG GOVERMENT CONTRACT ARE WELL TIED UP AND PUT TOGETHER BELEAVE ME THERE WILL BE RECOMPENCE From what i've read, there is currently a 3 billion pound tender out in Cameron's push to privatise the police force, G4S are widely regarded as having already won it. The winning company will have powers to arrest, detain and charge suspects. Well tied up and put together indeed ! There are plenty of people with their fingers in that particular pie, who wont want things getting messed up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Result ! ! http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jul/12/surrey-police-privatisation-g4s-olympic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Let me tell you, as socks said soldiers get paid fcuk all extra, they get paid the same whether they're sat on their arse or guarding the Olympics. So... Apart from fuel etc, the MOD won't have lost anything financially. If they haven't lost anything, legally they can't sue G4S because they have minimal to no losses. So all this crap about 'forcing' G4S to pay anything back is laughable. If they can 'prove' that they tried to recruit X Number of guards but circumstances were against them (even though we all know they didn't bother), then they won't be writing any cheques soon. I THINK YOU WILL FIND YOU ARE WRONG GOVERMENT CONTRACT ARE WELL TIED UP AND PUT TOGETHER BELEAVE ME THERE WILL BE RECOMPENCE From what i've read, there is currently a 3 billion pound tender out in Cameron's push to privatise the police force, G4S are widely regarded as having already won it. The winning company will have powers to arrest, detain and charge suspects. Well tied up and put together indeed ! There are plenty of people with their fingers in that particular pie, who wont want things getting messed up. NO ONE BUT NO ONE HAS THE POWER OF ARREST ONLY A POLICE OFFICER BEST GO BACK AND READ AGAIN UNLESS YOU THINK A CITIZENS ARREST IN A G4S UNIFORM AFTER THIS FIASCO THINK YOU WILL FIND A LITTLE CHANGE IN DIRECTON MAYBE DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER IS ON HIS WAY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sjt657 191 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 G4S have announced they have solved the recruitment problem for security personnel at the Olympics, following a kind offer of help from the Muslim Brotherhood..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Let me tell you, as socks said soldiers get paid fcuk all extra, they get paid the same whether they're sat on their arse or guarding the Olympics. So... Apart from fuel etc, the MOD won't have lost anything financially. If they haven't lost anything, legally they can't sue G4S because they have minimal to no losses. So all this crap about 'forcing' G4S to pay anything back is laughable. If they can 'prove' that they tried to recruit X Number of guards but circumstances were against them (even though we all know they didn't bother), then they won't be writing any cheques soon. I THINK YOU WILL FIND YOU ARE WRONG GOVERMENT CONTRACT ARE WELL TIED UP AND PUT TOGETHER BELEAVE ME THERE WILL BE RECOMPENCE From what i've read, there is currently a 3 billion pound tender out in Cameron's push to privatise the police force, G4S are widely regarded as having already won it. The winning company will have powers to arrest, detain and charge suspects. Well tied up and put together indeed ! There are plenty of people with their fingers in that particular pie, who wont want things getting messed up. NO ONE BUT NO ONE HAS THE POWER OF ARREST ONLY A POLICE OFFICER BEST GO BACK AND READ AGAIN UNLESS YOU THINK A CITIZENS ARREST IN A G4S UNIFORM AFTER THIS FIASCO THINK YOU WILL FIND A LITTLE CHANGE IN DIRECTON MAYBE DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER IS ON HIS WAY No disrespect mate, but you need to get up to speed on this, they ARE trying to privatise the police and the private 'police' WILL have the power of arrest. http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/07/13/g4s-greater-privatisation-of-police-should-be-a-major-cause-for-concern/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/02/police-privatisation-security-firms-crime http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18533980 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Anyone who the government authorises to do so has the power of arrest. Special Forces aren't police but conduct arrest ops all the time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 No jumped up c**t in a f*****g glorified guard uniform, would be arresting me, without getting a smack. No offense to you lads, but absoulety no way will police officers and the process of arrest will be handed over to a private firm. Don't give a shit what links you have, sas arresting someone is entirely different, they have been used only once that recall for subduing British citizens, and thst was Peter head prison. Oh Abd I might add that there was a bit flak from that. From parliament. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 No jumped up c**t in a f*****g glorified guard uniform, would be arresting me, without getting a smack. No offense to you lads, but absoulety no way will police officers and the process of arrest will be handed over to a private firm. Don't give a shit what links you have, sas arresting someone is entirely different, they have been used only once that recall for subduing British citizens, and thst was Peter head prison. Oh Abd I might add that there was a bit flak from that. From parliament. Well said scot, criminals will be rubbing their hands because you won't get done for assaulting a police officer, and I'm one of them Who says sf have only been used once? Im telling you, they and others arrest people all the time, on British soil, and mostly against British citizens. As I said, when the home office says its ok, then it's ok. For example, section 5 weapons are banned full stop, yet they can authorise you to have for instance a pistol. There is no real process, just authorisation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Well if there used all the time fur arresting citizens ive never heard of it. If you mean suspected terrorists. Then of course, but policing the streets. No it's a constitutional headache to involve the military in such things.. If it were true to the scale you guys are making out. Well we would be hearing about it constantly. Back to g4 taking the role as cops. Lol seriously ! Ok you think police stations are going to share sensitive information And evidence with them? There is a current lack of redirect towards the police in this country, how much respect you think a jumped up guard is gona get. I'll tell you , f**k all! And real cops fearfull of thier jobs, will do nothing to help, just sit back and piss themselfs laughing when it goes tits up. It's not practical And very much unworkable . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Well if there used all the time fur arresting citizens ive never heard of it. If you mean suspected terrorists. Then of course, but policing the streets. No it's a constitutional headache to involve the military in such things.. If it were true to the scale you guys are making out. Well we would be hearing about it constantly. Back to g4 taking the role as cops. Lol seriously ! Ok you think police stations are going to share sensitive information And evidence with them? There is a current lack of redirect towards the police in this country, how much respect you think a jumped up guard is gona get. I'll tell you , f**k all! And real cops fearfull of thier jobs, will do nothing to help, just sit back and piss themselfs laughing when it goes tits up. It's not practical And very much unworkable . Then why are they doing it !?? I would like to agree with you because i find this issue very disturbing, but all the evidence is there, you cannot argue with it. It's real ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Well if there used all the time fur arresting citizens ive never heard of it. If you mean suspected terrorists. Then of course, but policing the streets. No it's a constitutional headache to involve the military in such things.. If it were true to the scale you guys are making out. Well we would be hearing about it constantly. Back to g4 taking the role as cops. Lol seriously ! Ok you think police stations are going to share sensitive information And evidence with them? There is a current lack of redirect towards the police in this country, how much respect you think a jumped up guard is gona get. I'll tell you , f**k all! And real cops fearfull of thier jobs, will do nothing to help, just sit back and piss themselfs laughing when it goes tits up. It's not practical And very much unworkable . Yes scot suspected terrorists.... But an arrest is an arrest - you're arresting a persons freedom whether they breach the peace or rape someone. What was the last story involving SF that you read about? The government always say ''We don't comment on Special Forces' and that's it. Back to the police, yes it's unworkable of course. How many workable ideas have been put forward by the government in say the last decade? They'll push ahead in some form regardless. Sensitive info? Doesn't matter - certain civilians have access to that, for example computer forensic guys, as long as they've been vetted then the umbrellas up for the cops! Of course you're right, in the long run if it goes ahead, it will be seen to be a massive waste of money. But as I've said, it's never stopped them before and I don't see why common sense would prevail now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Well until the day I get arrested by the army , or snatched by the sas I'll start to worry. However IMO it will never happen, that's basically Marshall law! Not even the yanks have went as far as that ! Covert ops involving special forces is ok by me. Maybe you should put less criticisim towards the security forces, And a bit more thankfully towards the work they do. Let's be honest here nothing has impeded your human rights, I could understand your concern if it was the old soviet block or north Korea you lived. All this security scaremongering ain't changed my life one iota! For me they can arrest the tribes all day long, and throw them in the darkest hole of great Britain without trial. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Let me tell you, as socks said soldiers get paid fcuk all extra, they get paid the same whether they're sat on their arse or guarding the Olympics. So... Apart from fuel etc, the MOD won't have lost anything financially. If they haven't lost anything, legally they can't sue G4S because they have minimal to no losses. So all this crap about 'forcing' G4S to pay anything back is laughable. If they can 'prove' that they tried to recruit X Number of guards but circumstances were against them (even though we all know they didn't bother), then they won't be writing any cheques soon. I THINK YOU WILL FIND YOU ARE WRONG GOVERMENT CONTRACT ARE WELL TIED UP AND PUT TOGETHER BELEAVE ME THERE WILL BE RECOMPENCE From what i've read, there is currently a 3 billion pound tender out in Cameron's push to privatise the police force, G4S are widely regarded as having already won it. The winning company will have powers to arrest, detain and charge suspects. Well tied up and put together indeed ! There are plenty of people with their fingers in that particular pie, who wont want things getting messed up. NO ONE BUT NO ONE HAS THE POWER OF ARREST ONLY A POLICE OFFICER BEST GO BACK AND READ AGAIN UNLESS YOU THINK A CITIZENS ARREST IN A G4S UNIFORM AFTER THIS FIASCO THINK YOU WILL FIND A LITTLE CHANGE IN DIRECTON MAYBE DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER IS ON HIS WAY No disrespect mate, but you need to get up to speed on this, they ARE trying to privatise the police and the private 'police' WILL have the power of arrest. http://blogs.indepen...se-for-concern/ http://www.guardian....ity-firms-crime http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18533980 Well until the day I get arrested by the army , or snatched by the sas I'll start to worry. However IMO it will never happen, that's basically Marshall law! Not even the yanks have went as far as that ! Covert ops involving special forces is ok by me. Maybe you should put less criticisim towards the security forces, And a bit more thankfully towards the work they do. Let's be honest here nothing has impeded your human rights, I could understand your concern if it was the old soviet block or north Korea you lived. All this security scaremongering ain't changed my life one iota! For me they can arrest the tribes all day long, and throw them in the darkest hole of great Britain without trial. correct no goverment can without special power can autherise the power of arrest you all seem to be getting mixed up with the communtiy offices we already have who employed direct by the police authority , the surrey and midland police toyed with the idea but both have now backed down ANY GOVERMENT THAT INPLEMENTED OR TRIED TO PUT A PRIVATE POLICE ON THE STREET OF THE UK WOULD NOT GET INTO POWER THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS BRITAIN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Let me tell you, as socks said soldiers get paid fcuk all extra, they get paid the same whether they're sat on their arse or guarding the Olympics. So... Apart from fuel etc, the MOD won't have lost anything financially. If they haven't lost anything, legally they can't sue G4S because they have minimal to no losses. So all this crap about 'forcing' G4S to pay anything back is laughable. If they can 'prove' that they tried to recruit X Number of guards but circumstances were against them (even though we all know they didn't bother), then they won't be writing any cheques soon. I THINK YOU WILL FIND YOU ARE WRONG GOVERMENT CONTRACT ARE WELL TIED UP AND PUT TOGETHER BELEAVE ME THERE WILL BE RECOMPENCE From what i've read, there is currently a 3 billion pound tender out in Cameron's push to privatise the police force, G4S are widely regarded as having already won it. The winning company will have powers to arrest, detain and charge suspects. Well tied up and put together indeed ! There are plenty of people with their fingers in that particular pie, who wont want things getting messed up. NO ONE BUT NO ONE HAS THE POWER OF ARREST ONLY A POLICE OFFICER BEST GO BACK AND READ AGAIN UNLESS YOU THINK A CITIZENS ARREST IN A G4S UNIFORM AFTER THIS FIASCO THINK YOU WILL FIND A LITTLE CHANGE IN DIRECTON MAYBE DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER IS ON HIS WAY No disrespect mate, but you need to get up to speed on this, they ARE trying to privatise the police and the private 'police' WILL have the power of arrest. http://blogs.indepen...se-for-concern/ http://www.guardian....ity-firms-crime http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18533980 Well until the day I get arrested by the army , or snatched by the sas I'll start to worry. However IMO it will never happen, that's basically Marshall law! Not even the yanks have went as far as that ! Covert ops involving special forces is ok by me. Maybe you should put less criticisim towards the security forces, And a bit more thankfully towards the work they do. Let's be honest here nothing has impeded your human rights, I could understand your concern if it was the old soviet block or north Korea you lived. All this security scaremongering ain't changed my life one iota! For me they can arrest the tribes all day long, and throw them in the darkest hole of great Britain without trial. correct no goverment can without special power can autherise the power of arrest you all seem to be getting mixed up with the communtiy offices we already have who employed direct by the police authority , the surrey and midland police toyed with the idea but both have now backed down ANY GOVERMENT THAT INPLEMENTED OR TRIED TO PUT A PRIVATE POLICE ON THE STREET OF THE UK WOULD NOT GET INTO POWER THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS BRITAIN Well i'm not going to mince me words anymore, the clock is ticking. Anyone who hasnt yet realised that this country is being dismantled deliberately is imho a bit slow on the uptake. Democracy is being dismantled as we speak, there will be plenty of good British people reading this who know what i'm on about, but dont feel inclined to comment. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, all the information is out there. I'm only interested in the remedy these days. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'm not criticising anyone, just pointing out the facts after someone said no one but a copper can make an arrest. Perhaps if you spent less time defending them, you might see the light! Don't worry scot, you sit there like everyone else and not give a s**t, because it hasn't impacted you. One day it will, in one form or another.... And then I guess you'll just be another conspiracy theorist who no one listens to because they're wrong and the government cares about their people and we all live happily ever after 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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