Harris Bipod Adaptors ?

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

About the only thing I seem to know about Bipods is that Deano bought one. Drove an hour home. Discovered it wouldn't go on his gun and had to drive all the way back again to pick up an " Adaptor "! F*ck That for a game of SWAT!

 

So; Having decided I'll get a (Harris, naturally) Bipod, my mate " Snapshot " has very kindly done the leg work and found me where to get one at a site less price than Eire is offering. So far so good. Only, being wary of this 'Extra bit' situation, I checked. Look! There's Three bloody pages of the things! And not one of them makes any more sense to me than the last one

 

Anybody know enough to guide me through the pro's and con's here, please? Only I already have quite enough questions for the poor dealer, without expecting him to e talk me through that lot as well. Who has a short list of the best and a few guidelines, please?

 

Oh, and 9 - 13 or the 23" one? I quite fancy the idea of being able to choose to take a sitting or kneeling shot Any veiws?

[Leon 0]

It fits on your quick release sling swivel stud, as for size I always use a 23" one for most work but I do find the 7" one is usefull for a few jobs but whatever you decide on go for the tilting one otherwise you'll regret it.

[Guest Macnas]

I agree with Leon, I've 2 mates who use them, one has the swivel option and the other does not, and wishes he had it.

 

If you are lining up its good to have some lateral movement, it's a bollix to have to move the whole rig just because you want to glass left and right a bit.

 

The longer legs give you the ability to take a kneeling, or more likely sitting shot. Otherwise you'll have to get on the deck to use the bipod, and more often as not, as soon as you get that low you've lost sight of your target.

 

I know you have to get trigger work done to make it easier, but having confidence to take a standing shot is a great thing.

Bipods are good (bags are better, especially for zero/target work) but you won't be able to use them all the time.

[Fenbo 0]

I use a Bushware shooting stick myself, lightweight carbon, easey to carry,fully ajustable to suite any shooting position twist lock 3 legs steady as a rock at £30 its the absolute dogs bollocks

[micky 3,325]

I use a Bushware shooting stick myself, lightweight carbon, easey to carry,fully ajustable to suite any shooting position twist lock 3 legs steady as a rock at £30 its the absolute dogs bollocks

where from mate?

micky

[SNAP SHOT 194]

forgot to mention to you that as long as you have a front sling stud in the harris will fit any probs pm me. now get fooking shootin we want to see damage god damn it

[dickyboy 1]

i got the 27?inch model but the biggest i could and it makes the difference, a mate got the 25 and often can't get the shot over things etc

 

i went for the fixed version as the twist and swivel at that height was sloppy as the legs give some twist and bend so combined was too much!!

 

in this case big was better..........shoot all my foxes onit and out too 160yrds ......very rarely can i take a prone shot.....would be steady for much further too!!

[old man 0]

I use a Bushware shooting stick myself, lightweight carbon, easey to carry,fully ajustable to suite any shooting position twist lock 3 legs steady as a rock at £30 its the absolute dogs bollocks

 

 

good shout, i have used one for along time now for foxing and stalking

[mole trapper 1,701]

Ditchy, are you sure you really need to blow money on one of these at all, i seem to remember reading somewhere that you like shooting leaning against trees/ posts etc, if you get on ok that way i would suggest you get two of the green coated ally 6 foot garden canes from b+q or wherever drill then 7" from the top put a nut and bolt through easy peasy, £6 all in. In my opinion unbeatable, got a harris had it on less than a week, been in the cupboard ever since (6 years). Why, because of the amount of chances to use, where as the sticks are always to hand dont wheigh anything, infinetly adjustable.

Walk around a corner there is a buck/fox/rabbit whatever it is already on the alert, rifle gently meets sticks already rising, bang.

Shoot literally thousands of rabbits and not a small amount of deer and foxes off the sticks ever year almost exclusivley off these, very steady, light, cheap,any height. Added bonus can carry 14 gutted legged rabbits with them with one hand or between two of you can drag a big beasty out of the forestry with them, but they did need a bit of straightning after that one.

By the way, thanks for the input on the other forum, (mice, fleshy plants).

[OldTrapCollector 377]

MT

 

I agree with you - the messing about that a bipod would entail would be unnecessary - I have always shot off a single stick and never had any problems. I wouldn't leave home without it.

 

Bipods are ok for zeroing but are just gimmicky incumbrances in the shooting field IMO

 

Ditch - stick to your gateposts mate

 

OTC

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

By the way, thanks for the input on the other forum, (mice, fleshy plants).

 

So it was you then?! Good lord! Funny; Ye came across completely differantly there. Anyway, caught any of those Woodies yet?

 

 

 

I don't know. Bipods. Bags. Sticks; Singular to triple? I'm having a 'Dark Night of the Soul' time of it here! I feel that laying down with a well braced rifle has to be The way to get that zero. Pan and Tilt essential on a bipod even then. As a recovering Twitcher I well know the need for that, as I had on my 'scope tripod.

 

Thing is, with me, it's my shoulder that puts me out. I can - and have - lean my rifle on a fence post and hold it rock steady for ever. But once I put my shoulder to it, preparatory to taking the shot ....? I can't help but get the feeling a single or even double sticks might accentuate that? I feel I may end up swaying back and forth like a drunk man ~ or at least the scope view would make it seem that way as I peer 75 - 100 yards down to my target!

 

But then; " Down ". The majority of my shots will be taken at a slightly downward angle. I wonder how That may reflect through what ever I try using? Dean swears by his short bipod. But then most of his shooting is done across the roof of his motor! Give me a motor to lean my shoulders and half my chest against and I reckon I could go for gold!

 

Desicions. Desicions

 

 

Anyway, lads; Thanks for so much more food for thought. Maybe I'll just knock up a sand bag for zeroing. Stretch out on my mat and enjoy myself? Mheanwhile, I'll knock up some sticks out of bits of wood and just try standing around resting the gun on those. Saw them down as I go along. See what I make of it. And maybe Deano could let me handle his rifle, so I can get a true feel of what shouldering's like with a proper bipod. I'll get there

 

Mheanwhile, having just spoken to Dave: Another teething problem. Another thread :whistle: I need a Good Gunsmith!

[Guest JohnGalway]

Bipod, either a 6-9" or 9-13". Downhill I'd go for the 9-13". I've toyed with the idea of the 27" one myself but I'm steadiest prone and that's the clincher.

 

I have shakey shoulder syndrome too. It's a proper b*****d. I do some things to get around it. I always have a balaclava with me, looks good when stopped by the cops I know , but it's uses are twofold. Rolled up it's the warmest cap ever, take it off and stick it rolled up under the butt of the rifle and you get a decent steady rest. I shot 5/8th of an inch group with this set up the last .223 zero set up I did (snuffed out a 150 yard greycrow after that session). Two, when shooting I try to know where the small round topped hillocks are. Not great for moonlit nights with silouhettes (shot spelling) and all but you can rest the butt of the rifle on the ground (ontop of the hillock), and have the bipod legs on the downward slope if you can picture that. That rest is dead steady even if you've got the DT's. Also works for small rocks and tufts of bog etc.

 

Off sticks I can't hold too steady either, yet. I've shot my .22 sitting from sticks and was getting under two inch 13 shot group at 60 yards, bloody miserable. You can however also use your sling to steady up your shot by wrapping it twice around your non trigger arm. It does help, first twist goes around the back of the bicep, second twist for me goes outside my wrist.

 

Freehand accuracy is non existant for me. With 5 shots only hit one plastic bottle at 60 yards with a HMR Doesn't matter as I know I'll never be able shoot that way anyway. However sitting cross legged (what I call the meditating position) with left elbow rested just leaning forward on left knee using the sling as well I made mincemeat of small bits, and I do mean small, of concrete block at 60 yards.

 

Waiting for a fox last night on the side of a hill I was using much the same position sitting but had a big rock at my back. I was scoping a sheeps head at 160 and wouldn't have had trouble nailing a fox at that range, shakey shoulder and all. Either way the sod never turned up, I hope he catches pneumonia if he's out tonight

 

You should zero your rifle the way you intend to shoot it. Zeroing it on bags, then shooting off bipod (or vice versa) will change your point of impact.

 

All in all you'll need to sit, contort, get down in the dirt to find out which way suits you best, everyones different.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Cheers, John. Always nice to hear ye input, mate Which, quite honestly, makes me stop and wonder where all these other self proclaimed fox shooting experts have got to in these threads? Maybe they just use the side windows of their 4x4's and so have nothing to offer? What ever.

 

Much of this is a little academic for the moment. I've really lost all heart and stomach for losing off rounds at c. cents a pop all the time this gargantuan battle of wills is taking place between me and that f*cking trigger Nothing I try to do with the rifle, in it's present condition, is going to work for me. If I had free ammunition and the time to just fire, fire, fire till I either found a way or else wore the damn mechanism out, it'd all change when (IF!) I can get the bloody thing sorted.

 

See my other post; " Gunsmith ". Just seems a right pox to have to drop an otherwise perfectly good rifle, just because it has a cast iron trigger pull

[Guest Frank]

Where are them groups Ditch you promised us?

I seen 9 foxes within the space of 20 mins, yesterday morning , a big family with their dad.

 

Plenty about your country too, went lamping their las october, got ........................well, that will be telling, i dont want to bost.

 

All the best and i think you should change to a CZ 527, .22 Hornet NOW

 

Frank.

[Guest JohnGalway]

I'd also change the rifle to a better known brand. And second the getting some groups up :thumbs-up: