Wullz 408 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Its a cat! Why the debate.....slot it..... 1 Quote Link to post
wabbit slayer 16 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 If in doubt put a live catch trap down. Quote Link to post
Mark White 25 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 there is nothing to stop you shooting a true feral cat but as said if it turned out to be some ones pet and you are found out you will be charged and they can sue you to for criminal damage I would say play it safe and trap it and hand it over to a rescue centre saying why you are giving them this cat .unless you sure that no one will say it was theirs after would even if it is not there cat stop they could be trouble makers they would charge you first and ask questions later. That is not correct. If the cat is way from home You can shoot it if it is causing damage. there is nothing to stop you shooting a true feral cat but as said if it turned out to be some ones pet and you are found out you will be charged and they can sue you to for criminal damage I would say play it safe and trap it and hand it over to a rescue centre saying why you are giving them this cat .unless you sure that no one will say it was theirs after would even if it is not there cat stop they could be trouble makers they would charge you first and ask questions later. That is not correct. If the cat is way from home You can shoot it if it is causing damage. not so check the defra site they don't have quite as much protection as a dog but to shoot a domestic cat it would have to be seen committing the act it makes no difference if it away from home or not if you where found to shoot a domestic cat for being on your land the police can charge you as it not on your licence if done with a rifle and on top of that the owner can sue for criminal damage. but then you have to be caught. Quote Link to post
Mark White 25 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 In terms of domestic cats I may be wrong but are cats not in the eyes of the law can not be "owned" as defined in legal terms in the same way a dog is. Again this may be just rumour but that is why I thought its a legal obligation to report to the police if you knock over and kill a dog but not a cat??? So if that is the case and the animal is causing damage then I believe you would have the rights to shoot this cat. To be 100% though I would just give BASC a ring if you feel uncertain. ATB In terms of domestic cats I may be wrong but are cats not in the eyes of the law can not be "owned" as defined in legal terms in the same way a dog is. Again this may be just rumour but that is why I thought its a legal obligation to report to the police if you knock over and kill a dog but not a cat??? So if that is the case and the animal is causing damage then I believe you would have the rights to shoot this cat. To be 100% though I would just give BASC a ring if you feel uncertain. ATB It use to be law that you have to report to the police if you hit and kill a dog as they where under license but the license has gone now so there is no legal obligation to report to the police and in general it was beneficial for the car owner to do so as the car owner could then sue as the owner of the dog let it be out of control. I dont know the old laws for cats but there is a owner for one if it is feed and cared for by said person and if the cat has been to the vets they would be classed as said owner I know of cases where cats have moved home and owner can not get it back from the new owners as proof has to be with registration which most cats do not and on top of this the cat would need a micro chip as the law states procession is 9 tenths of the law which makes cats a very vague law I guess. Quote Link to post
The Seeker 3,048 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 It w In terms of domestic cats I may be wrong but are cats not in the eyes of the law can not be "owned" as defined in legal terms in the same way a dog is. Again this may be just rumour but that is why I thought its a legal obligation to report to the police if you knock over and kill a dog but not a cat??? So if that is the case and the animal is causing damage then I believe you would have the rights to shoot this cat. To be 100% though I would just give BASC a ring if you feel uncertain. ATB In terms of domestic cats I may be wrong but are cats not in the eyes of the law can not be "owned" as defined in legal terms in the same way a dog is. Again this may be just rumour but that is why I thought its a legal obligation to report to the police if you knock over and kill a dog but not a cat??? So if that is the case and the animal is causing damage then I believe you would have the rights to shoot this cat. To be 100% though I would just give BASC a ring if you feel uncertain. ATB It use to be law that you have to report to the police if you hit and kill a dog as they where under license but the license has gone now so there is no legal obligation to report to the police and in general it was beneficial for the car owner to do so as the car owner could then sue as the owner of the dog let it be out of control. I dont know the old laws for cats but there is a owner for one if it is feed and cared for by said person and if the cat has been to the vets they would be classed as said owner I know of cases where cats have moved home and owner can not get it back from the new owners as proof has to be with registration which most cats do not and on top of this the cat would need a micro chip as the law states procession is 9 tenths of the law which makes cats a very vague law I guess. It would be nice then if the person that owned them could be held accountable for all the songbirds they massacre but that's another topic me thinks. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 There is nothing worse than a poaching cat,if you are sure its a feral, rather than someones pet,then get the damn thing shot before it kills any more stock 1 Quote Link to post
matt_hooks 188 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 "Procesion is nine tenths of the law"? Really? Firstly, I think you mean possession. Secondly, b#####ks! Quote Link to post
Mark White 25 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 "Procesion is nine tenths of the law"? Really? Firstly, I think you mean possession. Secondly, b#####ks! "Procesion is nine tenths of the law"? Really? Firstly, I think you mean possession. Secondly, b#####ks! ok i make a spelling mistake. you try proving a animal is yours once not in your possession. unless you have paper work saying it yours is not enough you need some thing that you can prove its yours, dna from sleeping area or something a vet report from a operation or a picture of a mark distinctive to that animal may be just enough or a microchip there are lots cases every year in courts where people try and get there pets back mainly cats as they are not always loyal and loss as they dont have proof they owned the animal in the first place. I know this as i happen to do rabbit control for a judge in norfolk area and this conversation came up about a year ago so b******ks to yourself speak to people in the know first before you spout off next time. on a good note it does make it very hard for a owner to prove that someone has shot there cat if it has been believed to be a feral one. Quote Link to post
PLEDGEY 496 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 You can shoot a dog worrying sheep, so why not a cat, pet or feral, for worrying chickens?. 1 Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 You can. You just can't shoot them for the sake of it. Quote Link to post
theferreter 311 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 if the land owner wants rid cause its causing trouble and killing his chickens then take it out and if it somebody pet thats running a moke on somebodys land that it shouldent be on then thats tuff shit Quote Link to post
Greg223 4 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cats can be owned, it is to do with road laws, as to why you have to report ifyou run a dog over. You would be at the cop shop all day if you had to report every cat you ran over. theres a certain canal bridge near me where theres always a cat thats been run over theres a spot like that near me must be a crossing point or something nearly always one there Quote Link to post
peeps_76 17 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 If in doubt put a live catch trap down. i am with this one. keeps everything above the law. cage trap it and if its ferral then we know what to do if its a "wild cat" it can be released if its a "pet"........... Quote Link to post
Wullz 408 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Had a talk with a falconer friend of mine who had a kitty problem, they kept coming in and attempting to get into his birds, putting them off laying etc. He got a big eagle owl and tethered it on a lon leash to a big stump (for a perch) right in the middle of his aviarys.......no more cat problem....apparently a decent sized owl could polish off a couple of cats a night...... Quote Link to post
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