alimac 882 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 And why get rid of a dog that's already 100% on rabbits?? I'd kick the mrs out!! Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 i do a bit of writeing for countrysports and dog magazines and admin the lurchers ireland page on facebook and i agree with what people are saying if someone has a problem the first thing lads say is sell it, with a bit of time most problems can be solved, it then causes problems for lads genuinely selling dogs because they get tarred with the same brush, i personally never give a trial if i am selling a dog if the buyer cant take my word i wouldnt deal with them, but i only deal with reputable dog men, the problems with buying dogs off lads that know nothing about dogs is they dont know enough to be able judge a dog and what it is capable of, the dog might make a great dog in the right hands So how do you judge a dog if you cant see it work.? 1 Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) get a dog fetch it on, if it fails, kill it, if ye get out sport, kill it, if ye move home or have a kid an aint got time, kill it.... if it works keep it, hardly rocker science is it... ill never pass pups or dogs on to the kind of folks that are into dogs these days, sad but true... Edited July 11, 2012 by reddawn 1 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 i do a bit of writeing for countrysports and dog magazines and admin the lurchers ireland page on facebook and i agree with what people are saying if someone has a problem the first thing lads say is sell it, with a bit of time most problems can be solved, it then causes problems for lads genuinely selling dogs because they get tarred with the same brush, i personally never give a trial if i am selling a dog if the buyer cant take my word i wouldnt deal with them, but i only deal with reputable dog men, the problems with buying dogs off lads that know nothing about dogs is they dont know enough to be able judge a dog and what it is capable of, the dog might make a great dog in the right hands So how do you judge a dog if you cant see it work.? You can't. What really bugs me is that when lads come up against a problem in training or entering, too many just jack it in themselves, blaming the dog. Why don't they make the effort to contact people who know what they are doing and ask for advice? Like happens on here? There are loads of people on this site who are starting out, and they don't seem to be afraid to ask for help or advice, so what is wrong with the muppets who just pass a dog on before it is a year old? Are they too big headed, or ashamed to admit they might not know everything? There's no shame in admitting you have a problem and don't know how to solve it: happens to me all the time in photography or anything computer related. I ask an expert for their help: simples. 1 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,320 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 i do a bit of writeing for countrysports and dog magazines and admin the lurchers ireland page on facebook and i agree with what people are saying if someone has a problem the first thing lads say is sell it, with a bit of time most problems can be solved, it then causes problems for lads genuinely selling dogs because they get tarred with the same brush, i personally never give a trial if i am selling a dog if the buyer cant take my word i wouldnt deal with them, but i only deal with reputable dog men, the problems with buying dogs off lads that know nothing about dogs is they dont know enough to be able judge a dog and what it is capable of, the dog might make a great dog in the right hands So how do you judge a dog if you cant see it work.? You have to take his word for it !! After all, he only deals with "reputable dog men" !!!!! Pretentious nonsense ! Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 i do a bit of writeing for countrysports and dog magazines and admin the lurchers ireland page on facebook and i agree with what people are saying if someone has a problem the first thing lads say is sell it, with a bit of time most problems can be solved, it then causes problems for lads genuinely selling dogs because they get tarred with the same brush, i personally never give a trial if i am selling a dog if the buyer cant take my word i wouldnt deal with them, but i only deal with reputable dog men, the problems with buying dogs off lads that know nothing about dogs is they dont know enough to be able judge a dog and what it is capable of, the dog might make a great dog in the right hands So how do you judge a dog if you cant see it work.? You can't. What really bugs me is that when lads come up against a problem in training or entering, too many just jack it in themselves, blaming the dog. Why don't they make the effort to contact people who know what they are doing and ask for advice? Like happens on here? There are loads of people on this site who are starting out, and they don't seem to be afraid to ask for help or advice, so what is wrong with the muppets who just pass a dog on before it is a year old? Are they too big headed, or ashamed to admit they might not know everything? There's no shame in admitting you have a problem and don't know how to solve it: happens to me all the time in photography or anything computer related. I ask an expert for their help: simples. dont mention photography to me Quote Link to post
lurchers ireland 367 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 catcher 1 , skycat summed it up correctly, i wouldnt sell my dogs to lads unless i knew they were going to a good working home, if you are going to buy or sell a dog you should try and deal with people you know or people with a good reputation, i have heard many stories of lads takeing dogs for a weeks trial and returning them injured with broken toes and injured saying the dog doesnt suit them, if someone approached me about a pup or a lurcher i would ask them what experience they had and if they knew any experienced lads in their area and what were their plans long term for the dog were, if i bought a dog off one of these pages because i liked the look of the dog i would expect to have to train the dog myself so would expect to put time into the dog 1 Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 i do a bit of writeing for countrysports and dog magazines and admin the lurchers ireland page on facebook and i agree with what people are saying if someone has a problem the first thing lads say is sell it, with a bit of time most problems can be solved, it then causes problems for lads genuinely selling dogs because they get tarred with the same brush, i personally never give a trial if i am selling a dog if the buyer cant take my word i wouldnt deal with them, but i only deal with reputable dog men, the problems with buying dogs off lads that know nothing about dogs is they dont know enough to be able judge a dog and what it is capable of, the dog might make a great dog in the right hands So how do you judge a dog if you cant see it work.? You can't. What really bugs me is that when lads come up against a problem in training or entering, too many just jack it in themselves, blaming the dog. Why don't they make the effort to contact people who know what they are doing and ask for advice? Like happens on here? There are loads of people on this site who are starting out, and they don't seem to be afraid to ask for help or advice, so what is wrong with the muppets who just pass a dog on before it is a year old? Are they too big headed, or ashamed to admit they might not know everything? There's no shame in admitting you have a problem and don't know how to solve it: happens to me all the time in photography or anything computer related. I ask an expert for their help: simples. All my dogs came as pups.Apart for one i took of my mate at six month.If buying i would have to see a field trial. Quote Link to post
lurchers ireland 367 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 thats fair enough catcher, iv never goten a trial but like i said i dont buy many dogs and if i do they are off lads i know well, their is nothing pretentious chartpolski about trying to make sure the dog your selling will have a good new home, reputable dog men in my opinion are lads you know have a dogs welfare at heart Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,320 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) thats fair enough catcher, iv never goten a trial but like i said i dont buy many dogs and if i do they are off lads i know well, their is nothing pretentious chartpolski about trying to make sure the dog your selling will have a good new home, reputable dog men in my opinion are lads you know have a dogs welfare at heart My "pretentious" remark was about you "never giving a trial" and only dealing with "reputable dog men". You don't have to give someone a dog for a week, simply take them out and let them see it work !!! If you "never" give a trial, them most "reputable dog men" wouldn't deal with you ! And how do you tell if someone is "reputable" ? There are many, many plausable rogues in this game who SEEM "reputable", but are most certainly NOT ". Cheers. Edited July 11, 2012 by chartpolski 3 Quote Link to post
Hitcher 297 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 thats fair enough catcher, iv never goten a trial but like i said i dont buy many dogs and if i do they are off lads i know well, their is nothing pretentious chartpolski about trying to make sure the dog your selling will have a good new home, reputable dog men in my opinion are lads you know have a dogs welfare at heart My "pretentious" remark was about you "never giving a trial" and only dealing with "reputable dog men". You don't have to give someone a dog for a week, simply take them out and let them see it work !!! If you "never" give a trial, them most "reputable dog men" wouldn't deal with you ! And how do you tell if someone is "reputable" ? There are many, many plausable rogues in this game who SEEM "reputable"m but are most certainly NOT ". Cheers. an theres one at the bottom of this page Quote Link to post
lurchers ireland 367 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder chartpolski, looking at your posts you seem to enjoy an argument, your entitled to your opinion and im not going to argue with you. i know many lads years and have been honest with them and they have been honest with me, im sorry if you havnt had that luxury, but these men would be reputable in my opinion and have become friends through our shared interest in working dogs and even if we only chat a few times a year i know through experience they look after their digs very well Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 aye cp stop being so argumentative :laugh: he just cranky cos he old lads 1 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,320 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder chartpolski, looking at your posts you seem to enjoy an argument, your entitled to your opinion and im not going to argue with you. i know many lads years and have been honest with them and they have been honest with me, im sorry if you havnt had that luxury, but these men would be reputable in my opinion and have become friends through our shared interest in working dogs and even if we only chat a few times a year i know through experience they look after their digs very well No chip on my shoulder; I just say it as I see it !! If you "NEVER" give a trial, then I and many others would "NEVER" be tempted to buy a dog of you ! Oh, and I may be argumentative, but I think I am "reputable" !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Personaly,..I like to start with a pup... Obviously this is ALWAYS a gamble, as opposed to buying in a 'made dog',.but,.I much prefer it.. Sometimes you win,...and everything works out fine,..but occasionally,.. things don't go to plan.. Not all our geese can become swans,...however,. I try my hardest with each new pup.... IF it doesn't work out, I usually give the youngster to a less demanding home,...they deserve that at least... Quote Link to post
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