Ireland shanes castle cheating

[shaneg 2,578]

well the novice race was for dogs that never won a race and the 2 we put in didnt win before that. and i never said they were whippet hounds. i dont even no who ya are or where was i suposed to be talking 2 you

[flash3241 32]

Yeah they maybe didn't win a race in the north use we're talkn to me at the armagh chartiy dogs show in april an u told me it was a whippet greyhound then u were talkn with someone else an told them that day it was collie greyhound make a lie an stick to the right 1

[flash3241 32]

It was also for lurchers

[blackdog4 75]

look men wtf r us all on its just a bit of fun

[tommy1967 47]

Well said blackdog .the shows are ther to enjoy and to have a relaxing time and bit of crac with like minded people .especially after a hard weeks work.

[Dazzam 239]

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[vermin catcher 219]

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[shane-1 31]

Albert I don't mind lurcher racing as long as its a lurcher as I love watch it but there was so many complaints on saturday an sunday over the roscrea club first there collie greyhounds next there whippet greyhound an then he made a slip up an said its outa 2 greyhounds which is outa order an bumping again rose mccoy got her dog disquallified at ballywalter what about ginger jack taken out fiona devlins dogs in the final of the all irelands I watched him bump most of the way up the field there can be a bit of bumping but that was awful

flash3241 how dare you come on ere and start running down my BREEDING and our CLUB...wat club r u in may i ask....2 had u a dog racing againt any of these dogs the wk end....to be honest the sport could do wit out the likes of you sturring SHIT albert had a post on a tread befor shanes saying any complaints should be made on the day YES/NO....[did u do tat]NO come on ere and bitch about greyhounds lol there as fast as them lol....ANYBODY who is into racing knows my breeding my dog BLACKY IS THE FATHER OF THE BITCH TAT WON THE MASTER MG GRATE AND I BRED HER....i ave pitcs of blacky who is now dead but if you go back to treads on k9 community he is on them if i new how to put them up ere i would....he was collie hound back to whippet and hound....scooby is in my yard another dog tat was bred of blacky and scooby is the father of three of the dogs tat was in master mg grate final ...i would welcome anyone to take D.N.A test of him to see if he is a greyhound i have no prob......im a sporting person who is into working terriers and fox hunting ,coursing,pigeon racing//i NEVER EVER CHEATED IN MY LIFE flash...and all my dogs go on the land aswel....one think i do know wits sports....WHEN U WIN YOU KEEP YOURSELF [HAPPY]....WHEN U LOOSE YOU KEEP EVERYONE ELSE HAPPY.....WELL DONE TO ALL WHO TOOK PART THE WK END

 

ALSO MAY I ADD SCOOBY IS RETIERD AND IS NOW THERE FOR WAT HE IS ALSO GoOD AT AND THE DOOR IS OPEN TO EVERYONE...LIFE IS TO SHORT FLASH MATE INJOY NOT INJURE....AS I SAID ANY DNA WELCOME...

 

SHANE LEE ROSCREA WORKING DOG SOCIAL CLUB

Edited July 11, 2012 by shane-1

[Themaverick 110]

Yea I was talkin to matt about it on the sunday an he said he noticed it aswell but as albert said its down to the honesty of the owners if there was no cash involved it would of been a different race an I have nothing to hide what I say on here or in person the 1s who raced on saturday have been doing it as long time an will continue if its not stoped

 

Flash,

 

We were criricised on this forum about the prizes for the lurchers and terriers being much poorer than the other sports and so I reacted by bringing them up to a similar level and giving terriers, lurchers and whippets equal status and a similar profile to other sports at our fairs. Believe you me we could have saved several thousands of pounds by not doing this. Unlike other events we put a lot of money back into prizes ourselves as well as seeking good sponsorship.

 

In my opinion it is not the prize value - do we get cheating in clays, gundogs etc - NO! Because for these sports we operate a formal objection system. I

 

t is the fact that for some reason terrier & lurcher people seem to prefer to complain after the event NOT at the event. I made it clear before Shanes that we now have an objecton system in place rather like the KC shows- pay a £20 deposit and make your complaint. If it is upheld you get your £20 back and justice is not only done but seen to be done. If the decision goes the other way and it is not upheld then the £20 is donated to a charity of either the objectors or my choice.

 

This is the system that was in place at Shanes and will be in place at Birr and our 2013 events.

 

No one made a formal complaint of cheating at Shanes Castle or lodged a deposit so therefore we can assume that there was no cheating only allegations of it. However as the system was new if you genuinely think there was cheating I am happy to take the detail of your objection in writing and hold your £20 deposit until I personally can investigate it.

 

Albertj

albert,

my feeling towards the weekend are mixed

the showing was excellent, all 3 judges done an excellent job, and i have not heard anyone complaining over the results...

the racing was up setting to see so many people arguing over the breeding of the winners, and im about fed up of the whole sport...

i know you have been very generious towards the lurcher racing and its appreciated among the followers of the shows...

but i cant help feeling that since the prize money was up for grabs, thats when everyone started falling out and bitching among themselves

im sure most of the lurcher owners dont care about prize money and a nice piece of silver ware and a bag of dog meal would be more appreicated...

IS PRIZE MONEY THE PROBLEM?

[chartpolski 25,569]

I said on another topic that Lurchers were in danger of splitting into three distinct types; "working", "showing" and "racing". This is allready happening. There are pups advertised as from "Show Winning Parents", no mention of work ! On K9 website there was a litter advertised, parents were Whippet/Greyhound X Greyhound, and were advertised as "Perfect for Lurcher Racing " !!!! This has got to be to the detriment of what Lurchers are about; WORKING !! Shows and racing were just something of a get together for people with WORKING dogs in the summer, but now, very, VERY few of these Show/Race dogs will have done a decent day or nights graft.

 

Cheers.

[Wetnoseman 26]

his father was blackie a collie greyhound and his mother was fawn and white not a 100% shure how she was breed. i think she was collie greyhound with saluki in her somewhere. shane1 owned her he will tell you how she was breed

 

the worlds only flyer of a collie cross lolol

flash are you saying there was trackgreys x coursing greys ? so only in the republic are they called lurchers lolol

[Wetnoseman 26]

Yea I was talkin to matt about it on the sunday an he said he noticed it aswell but as albert said its down to the honesty of the owners if there was no cash involved it would of been a different race an I have nothing to hide what I say on here or in person the 1s who raced on saturday have been doing it as long time an will continue if its not stoped

 

Flash,

 

We were criricised on this forum about the prizes for the lurchers and terriers being much poorer than the other sports and so I reacted by bringing them up to a similar level and giving terriers, lurchers and whippets equal status and a similar profile to other sports at our fairs. Believe you me we could have saved several thousands of pounds by not doing this. Unlike other events we put a lot of money back into prizes ourselves as well as seeking good sponsorship.

 

In my opinion it is not the prize value - do we get cheating in clays, gundogs etc - NO! Because for these sports we operate a formal objection system. I

 

t is the fact that for some reason terrier & lurcher people seem to prefer to complain after the event NOT at the event. I made it clear before Shanes that we now have an objecton system in place rather like the KC shows- pay a £20 deposit and make your complaint. If it is upheld you get your £20 back and justice is not only done but seen to be done. If the decision goes the other way and it is not upheld then the £20 is donated to a charity of either the objectors or my choice.

 

This is the system that was in place at Shanes and will be in place at Birr and our 2013 events.

 

No one made a formal complaint of cheating at Shanes Castle or lodged a deposit so therefore we can assume that there was no cheating only allegations of it. However as the system was new if you genuinely think there was cheating I am happy to take the detail of your objection in writing and hold your £20 deposit until I personally can investigate it.

 

Albertj

albert,

my feeling towards the weekend are mixed

the showing was excellent, all 3 judges done an excellent job, and i have not heard anyone complaining over the results...

the racing was up setting to see so many people arguing over the breeding of the winners, and im about fed up of the whole sport...

i know you have been very generious towards the lurcher racing and its appreciated among the followers of the shows...

but i cant help feeling that since the prize money was up for grabs, thats when everyone started falling out and bitching among themselves

im sure most of the lurcher owners dont care about prize money and a nice piece of silver ware and a bag of dog meal would be more appreicated...

IS PRIZE MONEY THE PROBLEM?

 

bags of nuts were always ample in my day They were called 1/8s and only small Money and constant titles seems to be ruining the game up North it seems

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

Id be happy if any of my dogs won anything at a show, dont care about prizes

But a naggin of whisky would be nice or a fancy collar for me dog, I only go to shows to buy a few bits n pieces for me and my mutts and to have a bit of craic... Then to come on here and read all this pathetic bitching.

 

[shane-1 31]

my last post im not getting dragged into this type of stuff....

 

why do people get involved in everyone elses lives......if people r into racing sheep dogs [TAT IS THERE THINK]LIVE AND LET LIVE lads....all you see on ere is this should be done tat should be done;;;;if everyone in life went around doing the same think life would be shit.....for people tat has good LURCHERS tat is wat there into they spend lots of time getting them ready for racing and spending money....and the little reward wit the few quid at the end helps jmo...is some people jelous i wonder like i see people saying shows are for dogs tat finish there season hunting. ..my brother won the master mg grate and his 3 kids were all there to see the sucess of there dog which is wonderful for any ones child.....tat is wat they r into..people say they dont mind about racing dogs at shows but yet its seems to me after every show people start talking negitive if it does not hurt why come on ere and give out...jmo why dont these people run there shows wit these rules to keep them happy alot of time and efford goes into shows by albert and his team and for this type of stuff every single time to go on after a show albert you must be made of steel man....i will say one think roscre working dos social club are running the racing in birr for those who do not want to stick to the way we run the racing il just let people know the gates in birr swing both ways.....injoy your shows live and let live

Edited July 12, 2012 by shane-1

[RossM 8,149]

I said on another topic that Lurchers were in danger of splitting into three distinct types; "working", "showing" and "racing". This is allready happening. There are pups advertised as from "Show Winning Parents", no mention of work ! On K9 website there was a litter advertised, parents were Whippet/Greyhound X Greyhound, and were advertised as "Perfect for Lurcher Racing " !!!! This has got to be to the detriment of what Lurchers are about; WORKING !! Shows and racing were just something of a get together for people with WORKING dogs in the summer, but now, very, VERY few of these Show/Race dogs will have done a decent day or nights graft.

 

Cheers.

 

Spot on that charti, I wouldn't mind seeing a few turns/bends in the lurcher racing, that would separate them accordingly, watch how many end up turning like a boat to get back on the lure to those that semi expect a little jink and stay nce and tight.