neil82 1,080 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Wrong Neil read the op again the canal is not his permission land it separates the farm it's a public towpath same as public footpath same as public high street notice a common theme here I'll give you a clue PUBLIC if your seen on PUBLIC land with firearm your in the shite. read up a bit before giving me the CAPITALS, it is not illegal to be in a public place with an uncovered gun, its up to you to justify having it with you and if you can you are within the law, most of the shit that goes down is because you all are too willing to just lie down like a good dog and believe the crap that coppers who don`t know the actual legislation that applies give out Quote Link to post
Baghdadnights 150 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Then do as you say is perfectly legal and walk down your high street with your rifle and say your just taking it to the gunsmiths or your permission and well see if you make it there without being jumped on by plod And don't come back with high street is different PUBLIC is PUBLIC in the countryside or town Quote Link to post
Baghdadnights 150 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Oh and I don't tend to lay down for the plod but a heckler mp5 fecking gets me dropping pretty damn quick I'll tell you Quote Link to post
clubshot 22 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Its cases like this that I am glad I am a long time Member of BASC - Air Gun Laws are not clear cut or the same within UK I have shot places with Written permission - some are not worth the bother As public see you and report - seeing someone with a Gun close to public Access Yes I used to log in before entering site and even post Notices to Stop Access to other Users requirement by Ground Owners We issue visitor Cards @ my Club - Lea Valley - which stated they have been shooting @ the club Reason for Transporting a air Gun And idiots use them in the week as right to carry a Gun and wonder why they get grief VCR Act states you have to have a Legal Reason to Transport Air Aguns in Vehicles or in Person While crossing a public Access place or even retricted Public Access Accept some Gun Cases to not carry full equipt Air rifles - in which case get yourself a Gun Sack - that totally covers it while crossing or Accessing Public Places Aware that some Shooters use Angling Bags to transport Air Guns - where the normal Air Gun Cases do not fit or Use Large fixed Gun Cases in vehicles BOB/R Quote Link to post
Buster321c 1,010 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I would`nt even bother taking it uncovered . I too , as many do , ring into the police whilst shooting , but to carry it uncovered is irresponsible . I wouldn`t even bother as it could be courting disaster IMHO . Surley its common sence to cover up and save your self a load of potential hassle . Its no about quoting the law , or ive have the right to blah blah blah , its about common sence . Air rifles must be covered , in a case / slip when being transported , and there must be a reason for transporting them . IE , you cant just carry round in the car for no reason . . DO the right thing , save yourself the bother , whilst your on teh tow path IN A PUBLIC PLACE , put it away . Simples 3 Quote Link to post
hugo1 31 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) totaly agree with buster in this only a damm crazy fool would carry a air rifle out of the case in publics its just common sense not law Edited July 9, 2012 by hugo1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,787 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 hi lads what a lot of the public dont no is that they are air guns to them there hi power,d bullet guns or automatic rifles if you did not no the s16 was a air rifle you would think it was an automatic rifle as most air rifles now look like sniper rifles and after the events that have happen,d in the last few years there quick to pick the phone up if your not shooer make it safe and bag it that way you get to keep it and the plod dont tap you on the sholder with a mp5 atbmac Quote Link to post
AR177 588 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Just play safe and stick it in the gun bag, its no drama to put it in then walk the 100 yards and get it out again saves any hassle you might encounter weather your right or wrong to walk down the path is insignificant, Just do the sensible and responsible thing of putting it away whilst in public, the general public might not know what your upto and it only takes 1 call to the police to ruin your day ATB Adam 1 Quote Link to post
Pelletpower 203 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Just play safe and stick it in the gun bag, its no drama to put it in then walk the 100 yards and get it out again saves any hassle you might encounter weather your right or wrong to walk down the path is insignificant, Just do the sensible and responsible thing of putting it away whilst in public, the general public might not know what your upto and it only takes 1 call to the police to ruin your day ATB Adam Bang on mate! I was walking from my car the other day to my front door, no more then 45 yards.. Got my rifle out the boot in its case and started walking towards my front door when my super annoying neighbour said hello mate blah blah blah.....I saw him looking at the rifle case in my hand but he was talking about some rubbish I cant remember now.... Any way he then said oh so what's in the case? I said its a guitar mate.... got to get in me dinners ready... And he went on his way.... The whole situation would have been different if I had had the rifle out of the case ! I know for a fact he is the tw*t that keeps calling the police about me plinking...so if he would have seen me walking with the rifle uncovers I would have had to explain my self and no doubt the police WOULD have been informed to! Stick to common sense and we will beat the ANTI-bastar*s ATB Jamie 2 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 if your going from one permision to another and have to cross a public road ect to do so, then its not going to be much of a problem as your totally legal as you have good reason for the gun being uncovered. however if you are going to be walking 100yrds down a public footpath and a canal toepath at that .then whilst you might be able to prove good reason for having the gun uncovered, it will save a hell of a lot of hastle just to put it in a gun slip. The village i live in use to have a clay shoot on bank holidays and it was not unusual to see 15/20 people walking through the village with broken shotguns over their arms, nobody would bat an eyelid the same when im around the local area with the guns or dogs, most people know me so take no notice. but you try walking down the canal footpath with all the ramblers, city dog walker types and trainee captain pugwashes and the ARV and helicoptor will be on you in minutes. Quote Link to post
porkycrook 466 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Why oh why would you want to draw attention to yourself and the fact that you have a gun. Why can't you just take a gun bag with you from one area to another is beyond me. It is so easy to be a responsable its just one zip and you have the gun covered and away from prying eyes. I could write a lot more along the same lines, but its up to each and everyone of us shooters/hunters to do our bit to protect our sport/hobby from anti's. Quote Link to post
porkycrook 466 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Two of my permissions have a road as a boundry. I have signed permission slips for both, but there is no way i would go any where near that boundry unless out of the eye of the public that pass. One of my permissions has a rat problem and it means that i have to get close to the highway, but when i'm rat shooting i either hide behind the guardhouse or get the car-park rearranged so that i am hidden from view. Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Why oh why would you want to draw attention to yourself and the fact that you have a gun. Do you not think having a zipped up gun bag and being dressed for shooting would make you just as conspicuous as not having the gun in the bag? Quote Link to post
porkycrook 466 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Why oh why would you want to draw attention to yourself and the fact that you have a gun. Do you not think having a zipped up gun bag and being dressed for shooting would make you just as conspicuous as not having the gun in the bag? So having camo gear means you are shooting? So you can't wear camo for fishing, and you have a holdall could that be fishing gear, pole and umberella maybe! Where as if you have a gun on show, no doubt your shooting wheather it be rabbits or people. Quote Link to post
Wxm 1,638 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Why oh why would you want to draw attention to yourself and the fact that you have a gun. Why can't you just take a gun bag with you from one area to another is beyond me. It is so easy to be a responsable its just one zip and you have the gun covered and away from prying eyes. I could write a lot more along the same lines, but its up to each and everyone of us shooters/hunters to do our bit to protect our sport/hobby from anti's. :hmm: yeah by all means ask "why oh why" i have just bought the gun and with it being a take down rifle you have to take it apart to put it in the bag, i bought a full lenght bag for it but its too narrow to close it when the guns in the bag. im not being irrasposible or trying to jepradise anyones hobby, just wondered whats what if someone did call pc plod it was different a few years ago as no one woud blink an eye lid but like someone said on here theres tooo much gone on for people to turn a blind eye to someone walking around with a gun of any sort Quote Link to post
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