Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 If you can get all three of Phil Lloyds Coney Catcher dvds you see get to see his Australian cattle x's working . 1 Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,867 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 If you can get all three of Phil Lloyds Coney Catcher dvds you see get to see his Australian cattle x's working . It was them discs that got me interested in them, then after too many years of wanting one I got offered the chance to use the stud dog I'm using Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Good dvds to watch tho. I like his pup in the third vid. 2 Quote Link to post
wild rover 548 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I have had ACD lurchers for the last 20 years, used to lamp first crosses, have a geriatric nearly 12 year old and Grey/Whip x ACD, 21 inches used for mooching and ferreting. 2 Quote Link to post
wild rover 548 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Little Bitch 1 Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Them are fine looking dog's Wild Rover... ..the type that can take a knock or two.. Quote Link to post
moon pig 39 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Has anyone have/had experience of this type when put to a saluki lurcher? Quote Link to post
freelance 448 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 This is a cross i have always been interested in. Nearly bought one in the late 90,s or in the milliainum out of a litter Dixon bred but if my memory serves me right i think they were acd first cross x acd first cross . A mate of mine was up Scotland ferreting for a falconry club and called in to see S moffat at the time and there were some lads staying there with dogs out of this litter. My mate said he thought the dogs looked to heavy and with squat short legged to be an all round runner, just his thoughts though. Would like to see maybe lurcher x lurcher with this blood inn. Also not so long ago there were some first crosses in shooting news for sale, anybody know anything on that litter ? Cheers Atb Quote Link to post
wild rover 548 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The black dog in the picture is a 1st cross x 1st cross, this dog and some of its litter kin regular lamped bags of 20-30 a night, not fantastic amount to those who numbers are a priority but steady away, he ferreted and mooched catching more than he lost, they are heavy dogs but deceptively quick in the first 30-40 yards and around the sets, would take bigger stuff but no hare dog as they have no top speed, hunt up and catch hares when legal yes but on open big fields no. The little red on is a Grey/Whip x ACD, about 21 inch with ACD built, good moocher, great nose will hunt any scent, robust, hardy little companion, these type of lurchers arent everyones cup of tea but suit me, I have had nothing else for 20 years. 2 Quote Link to post
freelance 448 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The black dog in the picture is a 1st cross x 1st cross, this dog and some of its litter kin regular lamped bags of 20-30 a night, not fantastic amount to those who numbers are a priority but steady away, he ferreted and mooched catching more than he lost, they are heavy dogs but deceptively quick in the first 30-40 yards and around the sets, would take bigger stuff but no hare dog as they have no top speed, hunt up and catch hares when legal yes but on open big fields no. The little red on is a Grey/Whip x ACD, about 21 inch with ACD built, good moocher, great nose will hunt any scent, robust, hardy little companion, these type of lurchers arent everyones cup of tea but suit me, I have had nothing else for 20 years. Fair comment wildrover, how ever how would they of fared locally to me on the lamp were all the rabbits are skitish and are up out the squat or lamp shy and heading towards two strands of barbed wire fence line. You need a rapid dog with no stalking to get up there arse and knock them off. My old minshaw dog i used to run was a slow heavy type and struggled to catch locally but excelled up the dales and borders ect, but simply couldn't cut on local lamp shy critters. How old is your 1st cross x 1st cross and did you get it off SD it could be same litter i am talking about pal. Cheers Atb Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The black dog in the picture is a 1st cross x 1st cross, this dog and some of its litter kin regular lamped bags of 20-30 a night, not fantastic amount to those who numbers are a priority but steady away, he ferreted and mooched catching more than he lost, they are heavy dogs but deceptively quick in the first 30-40 yards and around the sets, would take bigger stuff but no hare dog as they have no top speed, hunt up and catch hares when legal yes but on open big fields no. The little red on is a Grey/Whip x ACD, about 21 inch with ACD built, good moocher, great nose will hunt any scent, robust, hardy little companion, these type of lurchers arent everyones cup of tea but suit me, I have had nothing else for 20 years. Fair comment wildrover, how ever how would they of fared locally to me on the lamp were all the rabbits are skitish and are up out the squat or lamp shy and heading towards two strands of barbed wire fence line. You need a rapid dog with no stalking to get up there arse and knock them off. My old minshaw dog i used to run was a slow heavy type and struggled to catch locally but excelled up the dales and borders ect, but simply couldn't cut on local lamp shy critters. How old is your 1st cross x 1st cross and did you get it off SD it could be same litter i am talking about pal. Cheers Atb good post atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
freelance 448 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I think if you have to hunt rabbits that are skittish or nervy,..such a hybrid, might not be your best option... My own workload has changed somewhat,..as has my choice of lurcher. But, I believe that it is always best, to keep what suits, your own needs.... I agree chalky i used to like stocky heavier type mutts, but always traveled up north mostly to do my running. But these days i do like a few mid week spins local and the land and the game has changed so as you say you need a dog to suit and i need a up and at them type and not a stalker, just my thoughts Cheers Atb 2 Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I agree chalky i used to like stocky heavier type mutts, but always traveled up north mostly to do my running. But these days i do like a few mid week spins local and the land and the game has changed so as you say you need a dog to suit and i need a up and at them type and not a stalker, just my thoughts Cheers Atb Absolutely LOVE that photo. Looks like the lurcher is winking....superb :clapper: 1 Quote Link to post
freelance 448 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Fair play,...and I'll say no more about the Cattle Dog hybrid,..cos,..human nature being what it is,..folk are prone to start with the silly talk and all the 'what ifs', etc,..and such predictably boring chat, is not to my taste... Suffice to say,.I have worked and bred, a fair few Collie lurchers and have rarely, had one do the notorious, and much quoted 'stalking' business on me,..well, not unless requested, to do so Amen 1 Quote Link to post
21dangermouse 86 Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 thanks for taking the time to reply and post pictures ppl some lovely dogs their. cheers atb 21dangermouse Quote Link to post
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