Police with tablets

[fagaen 282]

• The RSPCA is a charity.
  
• The Inspectorate is NOT a public law enforcement body.
  
• Society Inspectors have NO special legal powers whatsoever.
  
• They have NO special powers to arrest offenders.
  
• They have NO right to enter your home to inspect your animals or to demand that you answer any of their questions.
  
• They have NO right of access to shows, fairs and markets other than as members of the public, and can only carry out any law enforcement function as an assistant to a police-officer, upon that officer’s request.
  
• They have NO power to stop, obstruct or otherwise detain any vehicle carrying animals.
  
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You would think they had power I caught one climbing over my fence my mum chased him down garden path couple weeks later terrier escaped from garden !!!!

[Catcher 1 639]

• The RSPCA is a charity.
  
• The Inspectorate is NOT a public law enforcement body.
  
• Society Inspectors have NO special legal powers whatsoever.
  
• They have NO special powers to arrest offenders.
  
• They have NO right to enter your home to inspect your animals or to demand that you answer any of their questions.
  
• They have NO right of access to shows, fairs and markets other than as members of the public, and can only carry out any law enforcement function as an assistant to a police-officer, upon that officer’s request.
  
• They have NO power to stop, obstruct or otherwise detain any vehicle carrying animals.
  
• 
  

 

The above is nil and void if they have a warrant and police back up.The fuckers can empty your kennels and your house.Seen it done a few times.

 

THE FACT IS THEY CAN ONLY ACT AS AN ASSISTANT TO AN ACCOMPANYING POLICE OFFICER, FACT. (if you let them barge in and walk all over you they will, what i printed earlier is lawful fact, the rspca is a charity with no legal powers whatsoever) its only through peoples ignorance of the law, that the rspca occasionally act as they do.

 

You have it back to front bud.The accompanying police are there to enforce the warrant.Or incase you hit them a slap.

[cocker 2,655]

• The RSPCA is a charity.
  
• The Inspectorate is NOT a public law enforcement body.
  
• Society Inspectors have NO special legal powers whatsoever.
  
• They have NO special powers to arrest offenders.
  
• They have NO right to enter your home to inspect your animals or to demand that you answer any of their questions.
  
• They have NO right of access to shows, fairs and markets other than as members of the public, and can only carry out any law enforcement function as an assistant to a police-officer, upon that officer’s request.
  
• They have NO power to stop, obstruct or otherwise detain any vehicle carrying animals.
  
• 
  

 

The above is nil and void if they have a warrant and police back up.The fuckers can empty your kennels and your house.Seen it done a few times.

 

THE FACT IS THEY CAN ONLY ACT AS AN ASSISTANT TO AN ACCOMPANYING POLICE OFFICER, FACT. (if you let them barge in and walk all over you they will, what i printed earlier is lawful fact, the rspca is a charity with no legal powers whatsoever) its only through peoples ignorance of the law, that the rspca occasionally act as they do.

 

You have it back to front bud.The accompanying police are there to enforce the warrant.Or incase you hit them a slap.

 

ok mate you have it your way, "your the one who's seen them raid and take dogs," you boys can't be that clever then.

 

The recent RSPCA television series Animal Squad – Undercover which appeared on , Channel 4 featured Chief Superintendent Donald Balfour, Head of the RSPCA Special Operations Unit. He was asked on camera by a police officer if he had any legal powers to do what he was proposing to do. His reply was "Officially no, but we do it all the time."

[lurchian 1]

ok so they can come round your house with warrent still cant prove anything by making dog sick .but how can they enforce a warrent in the field what a load of bollocks tel them to f//k of

[stav11 32]

a warrent can only be issued by police and if you are in the field it can only be an arrest warrant or they can stop and search you with or without the rspca they cannot induce your dog

to vommit in the field the evidence would not stand in court as where the dog vomits is not sterile and there could be hair off any animal on the ground it vomits on, if they try it refuse point blank and ask for a independant vet to be present whilst this goes on and for a solicitor atb steve

[cocker 2,655]

A search warrant is a court order issued by a Magistrate, judge or Supreme Court Official that authorizes law enforcement officers to conduct a search of a person or location for evidence of a crime and toconfiscate evidence if it is found. A search warrant cannot be issued in aid of civil process.

Jurisdictions that respect the rule of law and a right to privacy put constraints on the powers of police investigators, and typically require search warrants, or an equivalent procedure, for searches conducted as part of a criminal investigation. An exception is usually made for "hot pursuit": if a criminal flees the scene of a crime and the police officer follows him, the officer has the right to enter a property in which the criminal has sought shelter. Conversely, in authoritarian regimes, the police typically have the right to search property and people without having to provide justification, or without having to secure the permission of a court.

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Search warrants are issued by a local Magistrate and require a Constable to provide evidence to support the warrant application. In the vast majority of cases where the police already hold someone in custody, searches of premises can be made without a search warrant under Section 18 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (PACE), which requires only the authority of a Police Inspector.

 

Searches under Section 18 Police and Criminal Evidence Act can be conducted immediately by a Constable without the requirement for an Inspector's authorisation under Section 18(5)a of PACE. This subsection allows a Constable to search the address of a suspect(s) under arrest in their presence before being presented to a police station (or other custody suite).

If a person is arrested on their own property or just after leaving their premises, a Constable may immediately search both them and the immediate area where the person was under Section 32 of PACE.

 

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[cocker 2,655]

click, law enforcement POLICE comes up, not rspca or anyone other "CHARITY"

[cocker 2,655]

Furthermore, any Search Warrant obtained by an employee of the RSPCA or RSPB has been unlawfully obtained - and under English and Welsh Law any prosecution using unlawfully obtained "evidence" should fail - however, I am finding a number of Police Officers in different forces who are "hiding" - and in some cases destoying - evidence relating to unlawfully obtained Search warrants.

[Guest Moscow]

How do the rspca manage to confiscate so many dogs from working lads if they cannot get warrants?

[cocker 2,655]

• 
  
• Evidential test
  Is there sufficient evidence ‘to provide a realistic prospect of conviction against each defendant and on each charge’?
   
   
  
• Public interest test
  Where there is enough evidence, is it in the public interest to prosecute?
  

[cocker 2,655]

the rspca use the police in the same way anybody else does, to bring criminal proceedings to a person or persons. the rspca is just a charity

[Guest Moscow]

I think your seriously underestimating what they can achieve.

[cocker 2,655]

i never underestimate anyone, I've done nothing wrong and I've got nothing to hide, (The RSPCA is a registered charity in England and Wales. Charity number 219099.) and wildlife crimes,(evening officer) come on here Facebook and other forums, looking for info, they will have read this thread i couldn't give a f@ck, you might be one of em for all i know,

 

 

 

 

bye :bye: :bye: :bye:

[Guest Moscow]

i never underestimate anyone, I've done nothing wrong and I've got nothing to hide, (The RSPCA is a registered charity in England and Wales. Charity number 219099.) and wildlife crimes,(evening officer) come on here Facebook and other forums, looking for info, they will have read this thread i couldn't give a f@ck, you might be one of em for all i know,

 

 

 

 

bye :bye: :bye: :bye:

 

no need to go all leary, the rspca are taking libertys and getting away with it by bending the truth and the law FACT.

[Malt 379]

• The RSPCA is a charity.
  
• The Inspectorate is NOT a public law enforcement body.
  
• Society Inspectors have NO special legal powers whatsoever.
  
• They have NO special powers to arrest offenders.
  
• They have NO right to enter your home to inspect your animals or to demand that you answer any of their questions.
  
• They have NO right of access to shows, fairs and markets other than as members of the public, and can only carry out any law enforcement function as an assistant to a police-officer, upon that officer’s request.
  
• They have NO power to stop, obstruct or otherwise detain any vehicle carrying animals.
  
• 
  

 

The above is nil and void if they have a warrant and police back up.The fuckers can empty your kennels and your house.Seen it done a few times.

 

THE FACT IS THEY CAN ONLY ACT AS AN ASSISTANT TO AN ACCOMPANYING POLICE OFFICER, FACT. (if you let them barge in and walk all over you they will, what i printed earlier is lawful fact, the rspca is a charity with no legal powers whatsoever) its only through peoples ignorance of the law, that the rspca occasionally act as they do.

 

You have it back to front bud.The accompanying police are there to enforce the warrant.Or incase you hit them a slap.

 

ok mate you have it your way, "your the one who's seen them raid and take dogs," you boys can't be that clever then.

 

The recent RSPCA television series Animal Squad – Undercover which appeared on , Channel 4 featured Chief Superintendent Donald Balfour, Head of the RSPCA Special Operations Unit. He was asked on camera by a police officer if he had any legal powers to do what he was proposing to do. His reply was "Officially no, but we do it all the time."

maybe a bit of crossed wires going on there lads, I think the SSPCA have more legal powers in Scotland than the RSPCA have got in the rest of the UK...