WHERE ARE ARE THE BEST HARES (OBVIOUSLY PRE BAN)

[doxhope 2]

Best hares are in places where there are not many

[inan 841]

Best hares are in places where there are not many

WHY?

 

Some good hares to be had round my way

How about in the daytime?

[doxhope 2]

Not too many hares around where I live, go out in the local fields with a lurcher, race 5 hares over a period of time, say a week, and you will be lucky to kill one...Go down the fens or places where there are big populations of hares, race 5 and like some of the boys that travel from here, they kill 5 in one day,

The only places where I have heard of dogs supposidly killing 5 out of 5 in daylight was on ground that houses large volumes of hare,

In my hayday I was a profit hunter, numbers have always been my thing, if I wanted a quick course I would walk over the back, if I wanted numbers, I would go to estates or areas where there were big numbers of hares, there were more to race, and it always seemed to me that they were a tad easier to catch

[snoopdog 1,256]

lepus timidus hibernicus,is actualy larger than the brown hare,fact.

bullshit ..put yer money where yer mouth is

[snoopdog 1,256]

lepus timidus hibernicus,is actualy larger than the brown hare,fact.

bullshit ..put yer money where yer mouth is

OOPS SORRY I SPAT MY DUMMY OUT AGAIN I SHOULD OFF SAID OHHHHHHHH ARE THEY WELL I NEVER KNEW THAT ...... WHAT A LOAD OF SHITE

[swamper 11]

this my last say on the subject its getting boring now

 

feckin long last say mate :whistle:

[snoopdog 1,256]

this my last say on the subject its getting boring now

 

feckin long last say mate :whistle:

i always had the problem of not being able to keep my thoughts to myself thats it now swamps topic closed as far as iam concered .. :whistle:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just like to add the brown hare is stronger bigger and faster than the red blue pink green any other fecking coloured hare ... over and out of here

Edited May 29, 2007 by snoopdog

[Guest Frank]

just like to add the brown hare is stronger bigger and faster than the red blue pink green any other fecking coloured hare ... over and out of here

 

 

 

[BRAN 0]

Snoop, you made a statement like you had specific facts and data that proved the Brown hare is faster than the Irish hare, then came back with the only facts that you spoke to people who coursed both, and you coursed brown hares as your proof? Which in reality means nothing. I told you I coursed both, and in my opinion the Irish hare, not the "blue", "red", "brown" but the hare that runs wild in the free state of Ireland. The hare that is coursed at Clonmell the biggest coursing competition in the world (legal granted) is the best hare. What Scandinavia, or wherever has got to do with it I don't know.

[snoopdog 1,256]

Snoop, you made a statement like you had specific facts and data that proved the Brown hare is faster than the Irish hare, then came back with the only facts that you spoke to people who coursed both, and you coursed brown hares as your proof? Which in reality means nothing. I told you I coursed both, and in my opinion the Irish hare, not the "blue", "red", "brown" but the hare that runs wild in the free state of Ireland. The hare that is coursed at Clonmell the biggest coursing competition in the world (legal granted) is the best hare. What Scandinavia, or wherever has got to do with it I don't know.

brown hare 40 to 45 mph red 30 to 35 .mph type it up in wickpeidea what ever its called it will tell you the size speed eveything you want to know they are facts done by people who study hares for a living .....now thats it no fecking more ive nothing to prove ..i know what i know is the facts ...adious ..

[whin 463]

chased plenty of hares brown and blue but are slow to comparison to a good new mexico jack rabbit now theres an animal who agreyhound cant put a bend in and can run for 4 minutes plus , hares some land suit the game and some suit the dog all the best

[BRAN 0]

I was using Clonmell as an example, to state area ( the Republic Of Ireland) so as to clarify that the hare we run is not the wanky blue hare. And in certain areas in the North of Ireland like Tyrone and some parts of South Derry there are European Brown hares, which are super wanky! I course hares with lurchers, not greyhounds, and believe you mate it's not about pace with me! It's the running of the hare on his land not in a park. At the end of the day we're all coursing men so debate is encouraged, and there is nothing more to add except we as Irish agree to disagree with those who are English (nothing new there!) But no doubt about it the english brown hare is a good hare, but funnily enough so is the Irish hare - happy coursing

[scottish lurcher 185]

good hares in dalkieth and some parts of stirling depends what you meen by good

i mean by good is that some hares are soft and 'sit up' for the dogs even if you give em a 100yd slip they still sit up , which results in a easy kill , this does not really test a dog , but some hares go at 110% start till finish and give the dog a good grueller of a course , these races let you see what the dogs made of , obviously hares are softer this time of year but all the same not all dogs can catch a summer hare let alone a winter hare , thats when the fun begins.

i know lads with dogs who run continuously through summer and really rate their dogs , but winter comes and they cant even bend em....obviously they blame it on the ground being too hard or too soft :whistle:

surely you want then to run not sit up and wait for dog to be sliped cos that aint even sport some of the hardest hares i ever run preban was in tayside some big brown ones real movers the closest we got was 150 yard slips dont no if they were so alert because over coursing and on this perticular field once you sliped dog the hare took across field jinked and seem to toy with the dogs then headed for the next field which was all up hill so quite a course took place we heard from a few lads that when they bought new dogs they would take them along here to test them to find out how good it was and we found out no point slipping anything other than a saluki cross out there and iam not say that to slate anybody who dont have saluki or x saluki this was hares who knew the script this was real coursing stuff

[bolio 51]

Having hunted all three types of hares in these Islands I have to say that the Brown hare is the fastest and the one with most stamina. The largest hares I've caught have all been Irish doe hares and the whiteys are good for giving confidence and picking up practice to youngsters. Ten or twelve years ago I pulled an Irish hare from the freezer to take across to the lads who were kindly taking us on their permission in Lincolnshire. They hadn't seen one before. We went on the Forley cup land with a team of good friends and killed double figures. Not a single brown hare was as big as the Irish hare I had brought.

But size doesn't indicate quality.

When you take a dog that can kill a short slipped Irish in the same small field where it got up, to the fens and give it the same slip on a brown hare, only to watch it get straight lined for a quarter mile, then it becomes obvious which is the faster. The dog that you hunt with becomes the measuring stick.

The problem with forming opinions based on videos is that on the fens there are very few trees, fence posts, etc. to lend a sense of perspective to the viewer. When you see a hare in Ireland running past such obstacles you can get a sense of speed. On the wide open spaces of fenland however, there is rarely the opportunity to see a hare passing a fixed object. You really need to be there.

There are few spots in Northern Ireland where the brown hares that were introduced in the 19th century still hang on. I've ran these too many years ago and they are not generally great hares but this could well be due to the small gene pool and a century and a hlf of inbreeding. Don't put money down on a match based on what you may have seen of these hares!

Text books tend to lump together the whiteys and the Irish hares as though they are the same thing, but I can tell you that in performance, the Irish is much closer to the brown than the Whitey. The Whitey is not in the same league. They tear up easier in the hands when feeding to the dogs, and I've never seen one more than 3/4 the weight of an average Irish. Most are half way between a rabbit and a hare in weight. Another difference is that my dogs at least, seem to prefer the meat of the whiteys to any other hare.

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Interesting post Bolio, enjoyed reading that from someone who has ran all the 3 types.

 

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