scothunter 12,609 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I know you can get it on prescription in USA.....can you here? Aye if you know where to go lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matthews 88 77 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Drugs are 'the killer of bright futures' . . . . . . . . . ?????? Any idea, how many very successful, intelligent, talented etc folk, smoked a bit of pot????? People have been smoking it since way way way way back, before the Romans, it's even referenced in the bible. At the end of the day, they chuck crazy amounts of money and man power at the problem and it only gets bigger. So a change of policy is in order i think. By legalizing it, the biggest advantage, is taking the money out of the hands of organized crime, which in turn uses the profits from growing and selling weed, for other far far far worse things, such as people smuggling, heroin trafficking and terrorism. It also stops us criminalizing people who wish to alter their mind in one way, and not the other legally sanctioned way. It's frankly ludicrous, to give folk hassle for smoking a joint, and yet condone the drinking of alcohol, which has a far greater potential for harm. This is the type of thing that makes me laugh, why is heroine worse then? There's been plenty of talented and artistic people who have and do function perfectly well while being heroine/ opium addicts......should we legalise that as well? And when it's legal and someones son or daughter comes home with a gramme of horse, then we would all be fine with that would we? Is it all about " progress" then?......because if it is, then we all think it's fine that queers can all bugger each other from the age of 16 ( legally still a child) It's got f**k all to do with if it's good or bad for the individual, all these lowering of barriers is shit for society at large that's the important thing. Keep it under wraps, keep it illegal and hopefully my kids and there kids won't think it's all OK if thats your argument you couldnt be futher from the truth that actors and artistic people can function while on heroin it always catches up with them. there is no way you can compare a smoke of weed to a harder drug like heroin or crack in fact it was legal in the us until 1929 while alcohol was owtlawed until the so called war on drugs started to stop hemp products to make way for plastics and nylon and much more 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchey 1,316 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Heroin and crack are a total different league to cannabis ,i don,t know of anyone who has died smoking puff but know off a good few off the other shit..heroin dealers should be banged up for life or shot either way i wouldn,t give a f**k... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matthews 88 77 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 yes right between the eyes sounds good to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I know you can get it on prescription in USA.....can you here? Aye if you know where to go lol Every second house in Fife.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caprelous 217 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Whose running the campaign, Bill and Ben? I wasnt aware it was in custody Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,649 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Drugs are 'the killer of bright futures' . . . . . . . . . ?????? Any idea, how many very successful, intelligent, talented etc folk, smoked a bit of pot????? People have been smoking it since way way way way back, before the Romans, it's even referenced in the bible. At the end of the day, they chuck crazy amounts of money and man power at the problem and it only gets bigger. So a change of policy is in order i think. By legalizing it, the biggest advantage, is taking the money out of the hands of organized crime, which in turn uses the profits from growing and selling weed, for other far far far worse things, such as people smuggling, heroin trafficking and terrorism. It also stops us criminalizing people who wish to alter their mind in one way, and not the other legally sanctioned way. It's frankly ludicrous, to give folk hassle for smoking a joint, and yet condone the drinking of alcohol, which has a far greater potential for harm. This is the type of thing that makes me laugh, why is heroine worse then? There's been plenty of talented and artistic people who have and do function perfectly well while being heroine/ opium addicts......should we legalise that as well? And when it's legal and someones son or daughter comes home with a gramme of horse, then we would all be fine with that would we? Is it all about " progress" then?......because if it is, then we all think it's fine that queers can all bugger each other from the age of 16 ( legally still a child) It's got f**k all to do with if it's good or bad for the individual, all these lowering of barriers is shit for society at large that's the important thing. Keep it under wraps, keep it illegal and hopefully my kids and there kids won't think it's all OK if thats your argument you couldnt be futher from the truth that actors and artistic people can function while on heroin it always catches up with them. there is no way you can compare a smoke of weed to a harder drug like heroin or crack in fact it was legal in the us until 1929 while alcohol was owtlawed until the so called war on drugs started to stop hemp products to make way for plastics and nylon and much more " it always catches up with you....." What, and long term weed use don't?........long term weed use masks the real person underneath. I have seen fellas up pacing the streets when they have no weed, no fag will help the clucking they need their weed!.....how the f**k is that harmless? But as I said, it's nothing to do with the individual IMHO , it's all about the constant pushing of boundaries in society and personally I don't think that has done us any favours. Things always go full circle, there was a series of paintings by Hogarth in the 1700s called " the Rakes Progress" .......it showed a society without morals, mired in a stinking mess of alcohol, casual sex, crime and degradation, kids left to fend for themselves on the streets.....sounds very familiar don't it! Personally, this world needs a bit more condemnation and a lot less understanding and acceptance. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'm sure he did a series of paintings from the same era, showing how destitute women become after having affairs and kids of the result of said affairs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'm all for hearing people's opposing views on the subject but why do people who oppose it always have to pull the worse case scenarios out when talking about drug use? Not everybody who has the odd smoke now and again get the psychological addiction that heavy dope users get and have to constantly be stoned out of their trees.. Drug abuse is a bad thing but it's no different or no worse than alcohol abuse. Just like there are people who enjoy the occasional social drink and don't feel the need to be pissed all the time, there are people who like the occasional smoke and don't feel the need to be stoned 24/7.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,649 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) I'm all for hearing people's opposing views on the subject but why do people who oppose it always have to pull the worse case scenarios out when talking about drug use? Not everybody who has the odd smoke now and again get the psychological addiction that heavy dope users get and have to constantly be stoned out of their trees.. Drug abuse is a bad thing but it's no different or no worse than alcohol abuse. Just like there are people who enjoy the occasional social drink and don't feel the need to be pissed all the time, there are people who like the occasional smoke and don't feel the need to be stoned 24/7.. As I have said all along mate, it NOT about the individual for me, it's the PRINCIPAL of legalisation and acceptance I think is a dangerous thing for society at large I have family who are regular weed users, very good friends who are regular weed users.....salt of the earth blokes, but I still don't think it should be legal and widely accepted and I certainly don't think it's harmless in any sense, same as booze! Edited June 28, 2012 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 If tobacco were introduced now, it would be class A immediately. If alcohol were introduced, that would be criminalised too. Each to their own IMO, I know plenty who smoke it and they're no different to anyone else. On the other hand, I know smokers with emphysema, bronchitis, cancer you name it. Alkies on the dole draining society, fatties draining the NHS, people taking the piss at every corner. WILF, we need less control, and here's why I think that - Most aspects of our lives are controlled to some degree. Take the benefit system... The safety net is there to fcuk your life up and let everyone else pick up the pieces. Had kids? We'll pay. 'Depressed'? Sod it just stay at home. Drunk too much, taken too many drugs over the years? Here, have a house and don't worry about working again. On the other hand, if people had an honest education about things then there's no one else to blame for their choices. We all make mistakes, but I'm sick of meeting people who have never given a toss about the consequences of their actions. My message would be; smoke it all you want, but don't come moaning in ten years if you've overdone it. Not feasible in today's society, may I add. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Drugs are 'the killer of bright futures' . . . . . . . . . ?????? Any idea, how many very successful, intelligent, talented etc folk, smoked a bit of pot????? People have been smoking it since way way way way back, before the Romans, it's even referenced in the bible. At the end of the day, they chuck crazy amounts of money and man power at the problem and it only gets bigger. So a change of policy is in order i think. By legalizing it, the biggest advantage, is taking the money out of the hands of organized crime, which in turn uses the profits from growing and selling weed, for other far far far worse things, such as people smuggling, heroin trafficking and terrorism. It also stops us criminalizing people who wish to alter their mind in one way, and not the other legally sanctioned way. It's frankly ludicrous, to give folk hassle for smoking a joint, and yet condone the drinking of alcohol, which has a far greater potential for harm. well smoke it then if you think its so good..........................man, then you can go on mastermind, you genius.........da ..da Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,649 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I get your point PJ, but to me, if I knew someone who is suicidal I know they are perfectly capable of going and buying a rope BUT I don't thinks it helps anyone to hand it to them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 why do you smoke it malt.................................!lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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