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just to make this clear, domesticated black rabbits originated from wild rabbits, in other words, a domesticated black rabbit doesn,t have to be introduced into a wild population for black rabbits to

no mate the gene can lie dormant for generations and the odd black one appears when two rabbits carrying the black gene mate

Nope, they are just as fast lol   I shot a few on a caravan park recentely, and got abuse on here for it ! hahahah unlucky they said!! lol. well it was for the rabbit  

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heres one the mates dog caught a few years back, gave the dog a bit of a fright the first time she encountered it, a right fiesty fxcker apparently, never got away second time

 

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looks a big one kittle ;)

Dutch white I think its called mate :thumbs:

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Melanism, like it's opposite, albinoism, occurs naturaly in most mammals. It's to do with skin pigmentation. With rabbits it occurs naturaly, and when people introduce tame breeds into the wild population. There's a colony very near me, where there is "normal" coloured and black, white, ginger and parti coloured rabbits; because of people releasing pet rabbits into a nature reserve.

 

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do these descendants from domestics vary from "proper wild rabbits" ie slower on the run?

 

The ones I've ran seem to run just as fast as "normal" rabbits, but perhaps they are the ones that get their speed from the "wild" side of the breeding, and the ones that throw to the "domestic" side, speed wise, don't make it to maturity due to predators ?

 

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im always suprised the domestic's survive long enough to be able to breed and worm their ways into an established group with the competition from the ruling wild buck surely he would warn them away? are they not territorial?

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Just to add - all this going on about the genetic mutation coming from domestic stock - it's not true 90 % of the time.

 

You have to remember that the genetic mutations responsible for the different domestic 'types', originally came from wild stock.

 

It occurs naturally.

 

Most of the time, the funny looking ones run just like wild rabbits because they ARE wild rabbits.

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I rarely used to see black rabbits were I used to live in England but since coming to Wales there everywhere. Not uncommon at all to bag one

 

Thats because on that mountain there was a really healthy / high population (not any more) and so more blacks.

 

It's the same with all high density populations, and also goes for mice etc as well.

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Just to add - all this going on about the genetic mutation coming from domestic stock - it's not true 90 % of the time.

 

You have to remember that the genetic mutations responsible for the different domestic 'types', originally came from wild stock.

 

It occurs naturally.

 

Most of the time, the funny looking ones run just like wild rabbits because they ARE wild rabbits.

would you say the dutchy ones with a blaze down the face and a white saddle are mutations? i have seen some damn near looking full dutch and only isolated to 1 area of that farm. like the ones theferreter posted is that the 10% would you say?

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Just to add - all this going on about the genetic mutation coming from domestic stock - it's not true 90 % of the time.

 

You have to remember that the genetic mutations responsible for the different domestic 'types', originally came from wild stock.

 

It occurs naturally.

 

Most of the time, the funny looking ones run just like wild rabbits because they ARE wild rabbits.

would you say the dutchy ones with a blaze down the face and a white saddle are mutations? i have seen some damn near looking full dutch and only isolated to 1 area of that farm. like the ones theferreter posted is that the 10% would you say?

 

I'd say the lion headed ones are in that 10% and aye, when you get the ones with the saddle, proper, and you get a few in the area, i'd say they are as well. But i've seen ones with sort of dutch style, white and colored bits on them, that were just natural mutations (in a place you wouldnt get escaped domestics), so i think it can occur naturaly as well, except usually the markings are not as 'neat' as the dometic 'dutchies'.

 

I really like the 'blues', prettiest rabbits you'll see.

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I rarely used to see black rabbits were I used to live in England but since coming to Wales there everywhere. Not uncommon at all to bag one

 

Thats because on that mountain there was a really healthy / high population (not any more) and so more blacks.

 

It's the same with all high density populations, and also goes for mice etc as well.

The mountain is slowly coming back seen a good few the other day. None with mixy but they seem to have moved around alot.

fingers crossed

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Just to add - all this going on about the genetic mutation coming from domestic stock - it's not true 90 % of the time.

 

You have to remember that the genetic mutations responsible for the different domestic 'types', originally came from wild stock.

 

It occurs naturally.

 

Most of the time, the funny looking ones run just like wild rabbits because they ARE wild rabbits.

 

:hmm:Very true,..and I've met some right fecking genetic mutations in my time... :laugh:

 

As for multi-coloured conies,...well, I've caught odd'un's,. all over the UK,..and I don't believe they are all the feral descendants of escaped hutch bunnies..just plain old natural born,..freaks :yes:

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Chalky; there's a lane runs near my place, a housing estate on one side and a nature reserve on the other side. A while back there was reward posters on every post on this lane for a missing white buck rabbit. I thought, "well, it must have been in the garden and a dog or a fox has had it". A few month later is when we started seeing white, ginger and parti-coloured rabbits in the nature reserve ! Coincedence ? ..... I think not ! lol !

 

Yes, I agree that some of the coloured rabbits found miles from anywhere are genuine mutations; but I know of to many escaped or released pet rabbits and the subsequent sightings of strange coloured wild rabbits to say that there isn't a link. :thumbs:

 

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