Lab 10,979 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Did they not say 100? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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stewie 3,387 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 You see that's what annoys me about shooters, you aren't like us lurcherman. We are hunters, one with nature, work with nature. Whereas shooters want to control everything. You buy eggs, raise tame birds under nets, shoot tame birds. You have to burn the heather, kill anything that is a threat to your tame birds even if it's a rare golden eagle. It's all false and could be done indoors. You aren't hunters or naturalists your just interested in shooting anything legal or otherwise ill reply to this before i read the rest of the thread!!!!!! for once baw i agree 100% with you,,, i grew up with game shooting and was going beating every Saturday from 7 yrs old!! loved every minute and then went to collage to do a yrs gamekeeping course and got to see the REAL side of it, which basically is its just a business where the lives of any animal is meaningless if it interferes with a precious fecking pheasant,,,, also i love how its perfectly ok to shoot deer and hares by them but you a poaching scumbag who needs reporting to the police if you run one with a dog.... i wonder how many lurchermen have rang the police on shooters over a dangerous shot they have witnessed.... :hmm: EDITED TO ADD.... only on about big commercial shoots NOT small rough shooting syndicates as to me thats where shooting should reach its peak...JMO... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mickmck 716 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 You see that's what annoys me about shooters, you aren't like us lurcherman. We are hunters, one with nature, work with nature. Whereas shooters want to control everything. You buy eggs, raise tame birds under nets, shoot tame birds. You have to burn the heather, kill anything that is a threat to your tame birds even if it's a rare golden eagle. It's all false and could be done indoors. You aren't hunters or naturalists your just interested in shooting anything legal or otherwise ill reply to this before i read the rest of the thread!!!!!! for once baw i agree 100% with you,,, i grew up with game shooting and was going beating every Saturday from 7 yrs old!! loved every minute and then went to collage to do a yrs gamekeeping course and got to see the REAL side of it, which basically is its just a business where the lives of any animal is meaningless if it interferes with a precious fecking pheasant,,,, also i love how its perfectly ok to shoot deer and hares by them but you a poaching scumbag who needs reporting to the police if you run one with a dog.... i wonder how many lurchermen have rang the police on shooters over a dangerous shot they have witnessed.... :hmm: were taking about wallabys now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 You see that's what annoys me about shooters, you aren't like us lurcherman. We are hunters, one with nature, work with nature. Whereas shooters want to control everything. You buy eggs, raise tame birds under nets, shoot tame birds. You have to burn the heather, kill anything that is a threat to your tame birds even if it's a rare golden eagle. It's all false and could be done indoors. You aren't hunters or naturalists your just interested in shooting anything legal or otherwise ill reply to this before i read the rest of the thread!!!!!! for once baw i agree 100% with you,,, i grew up with game shooting and was going beating every Saturday from 7 yrs old!! loved every minute and then went to collage to do a yrs gamekeeping course and got to see the REAL side of it, which basically is its just a business where the lives of any animal is meaningless if it interferes with a precious fecking pheasant,,,, also i love how its perfectly ok to shoot deer and hares by them but you a poaching scumbag who needs reporting to the police if you run one with a dog.... i wonder how many lurchermen have rang the police on shooters over a dangerous shot they have witnessed.... :hmm: were taking about wallabys now i know wheres there some nr me mate,,, but im not saying where as some gun will go and shoot them,,,, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 You see that's what annoys me about shooters, you aren't like us lurcherman. We are hunters, one with nature, work with nature. Whereas shooters want to control everything. You buy eggs, raise tame birds under nets, shoot tame birds. You have to burn the heather, kill anything that is a threat to your tame birds even if it's a rare golden eagle. It's all false and could be done indoors. You aren't hunters or naturalists your just interested in shooting anything legal or otherwise ill reply to this before i read the rest of the thread!!!!!! for once baw i agree 100% with you,,, i grew up with game shooting and was going beating every Saturday from 7 yrs old!! loved every minute and then went to collage to do a yrs gamekeeping course and got to see the REAL side of it, which basically is its just a business where the lives of any animal is meaningless if it interferes with a precious fecking pheasant,,,, also i love how its perfectly ok to shoot deer and hares by them but you a poaching scumbag who needs reporting to the police if you run one with a dog.... i wonder how many lurchermen have rang the police on shooters over a dangerous shot they have witnessed.... :hmm: EDITED TO ADD.... only on about big commercial shoots NOT small rough shooting syndicates as to me thats where shooting should reach its peak...JMO... Vermin control................a large part of being a Keeper. Sounds like you made the right choice and got out....dont think you could have hacked it anyway...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 You see that's what annoys me about shooters, you aren't like us lurcherman. We are hunters, one with nature, work with nature. Whereas shooters want to control everything. You buy eggs, raise tame birds under nets, shoot tame birds. You have to burn the heather, kill anything that is a threat to your tame birds even if it's a rare golden eagle. It's all false and could be done indoors. You aren't hunters or naturalists your just interested in shooting anything legal or otherwise ill reply to this before i read the rest of the thread!!!!!! for once baw i agree 100% with you,,, i grew up with game shooting and was going beating every Saturday from 7 yrs old!! loved every minute and then went to collage to do a yrs gamekeeping course and got to see the REAL side of it, which basically is its just a business where the lives of any animal is meaningless if it interferes with a precious fecking pheasant,,,, also i love how its perfectly ok to shoot deer and hares by them but you a poaching scumbag who needs reporting to the police if you run one with a dog.... i wonder how many lurchermen have rang the police on shooters over a dangerous shot they have witnessed.... :hmm: EDITED TO ADD.... only on about big commercial shoots NOT small rough shooting syndicates as to me thats where shooting should reach its peak...JMO... Vermin control................a large part of being a Keeper. Sounds like you made the right choice and got out....dont think you could have hacked it anyway...... well of course it is mate, but theres a limit!!! ive done things myself in the past that im ashamed to admit to now in the name of "vermin control" think ill leave this one now tho, can see where its gonna go.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 but lab , if they give the green light to shoot them , dont you think it wouldnt be long before they would be only a few left , then they would have to start a programe to re indroduce them red kites !! never really used to see them , but there all over now ?? Could easily have a cull period MIck where you could control numbers at certain times. Nobody wants to go Buzzard shooting just a chance to control. You'd have some trouble trying to eradicate the numbers that we have now... fair comment , a cull would sort it out you think ?? Your never going to stop it mate. The Buzzard is here in large numbers and growing by the year. And lets just say there would be a whole lot more if numbers were left to there own devices. But too be able to control problem birds would be a great start........ Wheres Danw............he'll be out shooting Buzzards no doubt..........f*****g keepers!!!!... LOL nahh mate not bothered with buzzards but I seen a hare near one of my poults so spent all last week shooting the fuckers you know how it is mate kill out to save those wee birds funny though I had been waiting for all the falconers to come and start shouting the odds about what marvellous creatures they are and how they should be free to fly as they wish can never work out if thats before or after they tend to the bop they had tied to a perch all day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 but lab , if they give the green light to shoot them , dont you think it wouldnt be long before they would be only a few left , then they would have to start a programe to re indroduce them red kites !! never really used to see them , but there all over now ?? Could easily have a cull period MIck where you could control numbers at certain times. Nobody wants to go Buzzard shooting just a chance to control. You'd have some trouble trying to eradicate the numbers that we have now... fair comment , a cull would sort it out you think ?? Your never going to stop it mate. The Buzzard is here in large numbers and growing by the year. And lets just say there would be a whole lot more if numbers were left to there own devices. But too be able to control problem birds would be a great start........ Wheres Danw............he'll be out shooting Buzzards no doubt..........f*****g keepers!!!!... LOL nahh mate not bothered with buzzards but I seen a hare near one of my poults so spent all last week shooting the fuckers you know how it is mate kill out to save those wee birds funny though I had been waiting for all the falconers to come and start shouting the odds about what marvellous creatures they are and how they should be free to fly as they wish can never work out if thats before or after they tend to the bop they had tied to a perch all day. ....I remember i had a problem with a Robin that was looking at my birds funny..........i just set a fenn on a post....i eventually got it after 16 Blackbirds, 2 pigeons, 8 crows, 17 Buzzards and a Partridge in a pear tree...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 but lab , if they give the green light to shoot them , dont you think it wouldnt be long before they would be only a few left , then they would have to start a programe to re indroduce them red kites !! never really used to see them , but there all over now ?? Could easily have a cull period MIck where you could control numbers at certain times. Nobody wants to go Buzzard shooting just a chance to control. You'd have some trouble trying to eradicate the numbers that we have now... fair comment , a cull would sort it out you think ?? Your never going to stop it mate. The Buzzard is here in large numbers and growing by the year. And lets just say there would be a whole lot more if numbers were left to there own devices. But too be able to control problem birds would be a great start........ Wheres Danw............he'll be out shooting Buzzards no doubt..........f*****g keepers!!!!... LOL nahh mate not bothered with buzzards but I seen a hare near one of my poults so spent all last week shooting the fuckers you know how it is mate kill out to save those wee birds funny though I had been waiting for all the falconers to come and start shouting the odds about what marvellous creatures they are and how they should be free to fly as they wish can never work out if thats before or after they tend to the bop they had tied to a perch all day. ....I remember i had a problem with a Robin that was looking at my birds funny..........i just set a fenn on a post....i eventually got it after 16 Blackbirds, 2 pigeons, 8 crows, 17 Buzzards and a Partridge in a pear tree...... bloody hell fella I had a nightmare about 16 black birds the other night almost made a mess on the sheets :icon_redface: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 You see that's what annoys me about shooters, you aren't like us lurcherman. We are hunters, one with nature, work with nature. Whereas shooters want to control everything. You buy eggs, raise tame birds under nets, shoot tame birds. You have to burn the heather, kill anything that is a threat to your tame birds even if it's a rare golden eagle. It's all false and could be done indoors. You aren't hunters or naturalists your just interested in shooting anything legal or otherwise ill reply to this before i read the rest of the thread!!!!!! for once baw i agree 100% with you,,, i grew up with game shooting and was going beating every Saturday from 7 yrs old!! loved every minute and then went to collage to do a yrs gamekeeping course and got to see the REAL side of it, which basically is its just a business where the lives of any animal is meaningless if it interferes with a precious fecking pheasant,,,, also i love how its perfectly ok to shoot deer and hares by them but you a poaching scumbag who needs reporting to the police if you run one with a dog.... i wonder how many lurchermen have rang the police on shooters over a dangerous shot they have witnessed.... :hmm: EDITED TO ADD.... only on about big commercial shoots NOT small rough shooting syndicates as to me thats where shooting should reach its peak...JMO... Vermin control................a large part of being a Keeper. Sounds like you made the right choice and got out....dont think you could have hacked it anyway...... I reckon he could of handled it, just couldn't,t be relied on to turn up :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 You see that's what annoys me about shooters, you aren't like us lurcherman. We are hunters, one with nature, work with nature. Whereas shooters want to control everything. You buy eggs, raise tame birds under nets, shoot tame birds. You have to burn the heather, kill anything that is a threat to your tame birds even if it's a rare golden eagle. It's all false and could be done indoors. You aren't hunters or naturalists your just interested in shooting anything legal or otherwise ill reply to this before i read the rest of the thread!!!!!! for once baw i agree 100% with you,,, i grew up with game shooting and was going beating every Saturday from 7 yrs old!! loved every minute and then went to collage to do a yrs gamekeeping course and got to see the REAL side of it, which basically is its just a business where the lives of any animal is meaningless if it interferes with a precious fecking pheasant,,,, also i love how its perfectly ok to shoot deer and hares by them but you a poaching scumbag who needs reporting to the police if you run one with a dog.... i wonder how many lurchermen have rang the police on shooters over a dangerous shot they have witnessed.... :hmm: EDITED TO ADD.... only on about big commercial shoots NOT small rough shooting syndicates as to me thats where shooting should reach its peak...JMO... Vermin control................a large part of being a Keeper. Sounds like you made the right choice and got out....dont think you could have hacked it anyway...... I reckon he could of handled it, just couldn't,t be relied on to turn up :D ohh dan put your claws away!!!!! :laugh: i had to leave the country mate!!! whats labs excuse.. no telling porkies now lab, ive still got the PM you sent me..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 :D :D LOL labs a gamefarmer you can,t ever rely on them to turn up at an agreed time :laugh: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 but lab , if they give the green light to shoot them , dont you think it wouldnt be long before they would be only a few left , then they would have to start a programe to re indroduce them red kites !! never really used to see them , but there all over now ?? Could easily have a cull period MIck where you could control numbers at certain times. Nobody wants to go Buzzard shooting just a chance to control. You'd have some trouble trying to eradicate the numbers that we have now... fair comment , a cull would sort it out you think ?? Your never going to stop it mate. The Buzzard is here in large numbers and growing by the year. And lets just say there would be a whole lot more if numbers were left to there own devices. But too be able to control problem birds would be a great start........ Wheres Danw............he'll be out shooting Buzzards no doubt..........f*****g keepers!!!!... LOL nahh mate not bothered with buzzards but I seen a hare near one of my poults so spent all last week shooting the fuckers you know how it is mate kill out to save those wee birds funny though I had been waiting for all the falconers to come and start shouting the odds about what marvellous creatures they are and how they should be free to fly as they wish can never work out if thats before or after they tend to the bop they had tied to a perch all day. speaking as a man who had birds tied up all day i think most expierenced falconers will tell you the same thing, whilst looking like any other BOP buzzards are infact more akin to rats and cockroaches in as much that they are natures true survivalists, they are buy nature lazy and will take an easy meal every time, and lets face it a pen full of poults is like a buzzard KFC drive through, they are also very quick to learn so distractions that work with other accipitors and falcons dont work for long on them. they are at record levels and everybody knows something needs to be done but as usual nobody in goverment has the balls to make a stand against the RSPB and such. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 but lab , if they give the green light to shoot them , dont you think it wouldnt be long before they would be only a few left , then they would have to start a programe to re indroduce them red kites !! never really used to see them , but there all over now ?? Could easily have a cull period MIck where you could control numbers at certain times. Nobody wants to go Buzzard shooting just a chance to control. You'd have some trouble trying to eradicate the numbers that we have now... fair comment , a cull would sort it out you think ?? Your never going to stop it mate. The Buzzard is here in large numbers and growing by the year. And lets just say there would be a whole lot more if numbers were left to there own devices. But too be able to control problem birds would be a great start........ Wheres Danw............he'll be out shooting Buzzards no doubt..........f*****g keepers!!!!... LOL nahh mate not bothered with buzzards but I seen a hare near one of my poults so spent all last week shooting the fuckers you know how it is mate kill out to save those wee birds funny though I had been waiting for all the falconers to come and start shouting the odds about what marvellous creatures they are and how they should be free to fly as they wish can never work out if thats before or after they tend to the bop they had tied to a perch all day. speaking as a man who had birds tied up all day i think most expierenced falconers will tell you the same thing, whilst looking like any other BOP buzzards are infact more akin to rats and cockroaches in as much that they are natures true survivalists, they are buy nature lazy and will take an easy meal every time, and lets face it a pen full of poults is like a buzzard KFC drive through, they are also very quick to learn so distractions that work with other accipitors and falcons dont work for long on them. they are at record levels and everybody knows something needs to be done but as usual nobody in goverment has the balls to make a stand against the RSPB and such. Totally agree mate it seems funny that on cuntryfile last night the rspb rep said we should try and find non lethal ways of preventing predation yet they have just stopped the 3 year non lethal defra funded study I guess they know the report would find in favour of a cull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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