scottishlurcher 0 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 can you obtain a sia door supervisors license with a criminal record? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Yes depends what for Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginga john 268 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) And how long ago and how long the sentance was for Edited June 26, 2012 by ginga john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottishlurcher 0 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 serious assualt served 12 months, i was charged in 1998 but not convicted till 1999 been nothing since apart from a breach of the peace in 2000, am i wasting my money doing the course? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe67 239 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 dont know about that,know ILA will help you with training though if anygood http://www.ilascotla...LA Homepage.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 serious assualt served 12 months, i was charged in 1998 but not convicted till 1999 been nothing since apart from a breach of the peace in 2000, am i wasting my money doing the course? Ask the SIA. http://www.sia.homeo...contact-us.aspx If you served 12 months, how long were you sentenced for? Some offences (quite rightly) are never deemed as spent under the Rehabilitation of offenders act and so will follow you around forever. Can I ask why you're attracted to working the door, given that you have have a propensity for violence, if you got yourself in trouble when you weren't working the door ........... by fck the opportunities for trouble will increase 10 fold if you do work the door, what would your next sentence for violence be? Imagine getting life because you had a previous conviction, all because some little cock won't finish his drink on time ...... It's way too easy to be caught being naughty these days, I'd be looking for another career if I were you! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,479 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 I would think so mate they do a ten year back ground check so you might get by though best ask them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 I would think so mate they do a ten year back ground check so you might get by though best ask them When you get a CRB check, it shows everything, then they decide what they can take into account, but they know everything you've been convicted of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,479 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 'Strong Stuff' timestamp='1340788911' post='2687001'] 'scottishlurcher' timestamp='1340745235' post='2686364'] serious assualt served 12 months, i was charged in 1998 but not convicted till 1999 been nothing since apart from a breach of the peace in 2000, am i wasting my money doing the course? Ask the SIA. http://www.sia.homeo...contact-us.aspx If you served 12 months, how long were you sentenced for? Some offences (quite rightly) are never deemed as spent under the Rehabilitation of offenders act and so will follow you around forever. Can I ask why you're attracted to working the door, given that you have have a propensity for violence, if you got yourself in trouble when you weren't working the door ........... by fck the opportunities for trouble will increase 10 fold if you do work the door, what would your next sentence for violence be? Imagine getting life because you had a previous conviction, all because some little cock won't finish his drink on time ...... It's way too easy to be caught being naughty these days, I'd be looking for another career if I were you! Maybe hes no wanting to work the doors ,i had to get my sia licence and sito as well and i dont work the doors ,the guy said after you get your ticket you can Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 He asked about the DS licence, can you work the door with a different sector badge? Like a retail one? I thought, that to work as a "front line" DS which means direct contact with the public you had to have a front line badge, there are loads of lads around here who think their stupid wheel clampers badge entitles them to working the door, but it doesn't. Bottom line with the SIA, it was an income generation scheme for the goverment, I've never even had my badge checked in all the years I've had it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 He asked about the DS licence, can you work the door with a different sector badge? Like a retail one? I thought, that to work as a "front line" DS which means direct contact with the public you had to have a front line badge, there are loads of lads around here who think their stupid wheel clampers badge entitles them to working the door, but it doesn't. Bottom line with the SIA, it was an income generation scheme for the goverment, I've never even had my badge checked in all the years I've had it. No mate you need a frontline DS licence to work the doors, or a paper one to employ DS. Nice little earner for the SIA, instead I having a standard licence and adding your skills to it, like a driving licence, you need a separate licence for each activity Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 He asked about the DS licence, can you work the door with a different sector badge? Like a retail one? I thought, that to work as a "front line" DS which means direct contact with the public you had to have a front line badge, there are loads of lads around here who think their stupid wheel clampers badge entitles them to working the door, but it doesn't. Bottom line with the SIA, it was an income generation scheme for the goverment, I've never even had my badge checked in all the years I've had it. No mate you need a frontline DS licence to work the doors, or a paper one to employ DS. Nice little earner for the SIA, instead I having a standard licence and adding your skills to it, like a driving licence, you need a separate licence for each activity I thought that was the case, so the OP, if asking about a DS licence is most likely planning to work as a DS. The One confused me lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
donkdaniel 236 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Mine ran out about 2 years ago now but I seem to remember if the sentance was spent ie 5 years ago sticks in my mind for some reason your ok but I don't think that Bodley harm will ever come off your record so it's a tuff one as already said contact sia thay will tel you atb donk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottishlurcher 0 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 serious assualt served 12 months, i was charged in 1998 but not convicted till 1999 been nothing since apart from a breach of the peace in 2000, am i wasting my money doing the course? Ask the SIA. http://www.sia.homeo...contact-us.aspx If you served 12 months, how long were you sentenced for? Some offences (quite rightly) are never deemed as spent under the Rehabilitation of offenders act and so will follow you around forever. Can I ask why you're attracted to working the door, given that you have have a propensity for violence, if you got yourself in trouble when you weren't working the door ........... by fck the opportunities for trouble will increase 10 fold if you do work the door, what would your next sentence for violence be? Imagine getting life because you had a previous conviction, all because some little cock won't finish his drink on time ...... It's way too easy to be caught being naughty these days, I'd be looking for another career if I were you! thank you very much for the lecture, I was working the door when the incident happened and you feck all about the circumstances,plus i was 21 at the time and im now a 35 year old man married with children and i dont even know why im explaining myself to you.! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginga john 268 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) serious assualt served 12 months, i was charged in 1998 but not convicted till 1999 been nothing since apart from a breach of the peace in 2000, am i wasting my money doing the course? Ask the SIA. http://www.sia.homeo...contact-us.aspx If you served 12 months, how long were you sentenced for? Some offences (quite rightly) are never deemed as spent under the Rehabilitation of offenders act and so will follow you around forever. Can I ask why you're attracted to working the door, given that you have have a propensity for violence, if you got yourself in trouble when you weren't working the door ........... by fck the opportunities for trouble will increase 10 fold if you do work the door, what would your next sentence for violence be? Imagine getting life because you had a previous conviction, all because some little cock won't finish his drink on time ...... It's way too easy to be caught being naughty these days, I'd be looking for another career if I were you! thank you very much for the lecture, I was working the door when the incident happened and you feck all about the circumstances,plus i was 21 at the time and im now a 35 year old man married with children and i dont even know why im explaining myself to you.! That would probably be because you asked the original question !!! At 21 your much more likely to kick off than at 35, and even less so at 45 etc, BUT from what you have said you were working the door without a DS licence / training and ended up in the jug, SO, if you take a step backwards you have a history of ignoring the rules and a propensity to engage in violent conduct, that is not ideal DS material !!! I have a similar problem as my CRB follows me around like a ball and chain, the only option I was left with was working for myself as dependant on the offence (s) and the sentence handed down some of those things will never come off, some stay for 10 years some for 5 years etc, some offences have little or no effect but others will stop you getting a job at all, a lot depends on the prospective employer, good advice would be to have a friendly chat with the SIA and maybe a chat with someone already doing the job and preferably for a few years not someone full of vinegar who has just started, you could do a lot worse than a fella on here called strong stuff Edited June 27, 2012 by ginga john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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