Terrier Sam 297 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ive got a whippet type dog and over last season he picked up a knocked up toe on his front foot. He was given plenty of rest and i seeked the advice of a vet too. They just said to give it about a month of rest and it should be fine. I did this and after that time i carried on goin lamping etc but every now and then after a run he was lame on the same foot for a day or so. This didnt happen every time, or even just on long runs, there was no rhyme or reason to it. Again, i spoke to the vet who said that i probably didnt give it enough time so to cut a long story short, i ended cutting my season short by stopping in feb. Today was the first time since feb that he has had a run on a rabbit, albeit unintentionally. It was a good run with about 4 or 5 turns back on itself and resulted in a catch. After dispatching the rabbit i noticed that he was light on the same foot again. I am baffled as he's had 4 months of taking it easy with a walk every day of between an hour and 2 hours (most off the lead) and hes also run alongside me while biking with no problem. Has anyone heard or experienced this before or know of a good vet in the north wales area as im not willing to line the pockets of my usual vets for them to tell me that he needs more rest. Iscthere anything i can do to help this? Sorry for the essay! ATB Sam Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Is the toe still visibly swollen? Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) running alongside a bike doesnt put the same stress on the toes as a good course the joint in the toe cold be minus cartlidge or anything There is a vet in Royton Lancashire Paul Evans one of the best running dog vets in the country bit of a trip for you but he would sort it Edited June 24, 2012 by desertbred 2 Quote Link to post
Terrier Sam 297 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ye, its still swollen and hard. Always been the same. Its not painful to touch unless hes lame. ATB Sam Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 From my experience there is no cure other than amputation Sam, and that option is also dependant upon which toe, sorry. Many pet vets do not realise the stresses and strains involved in chasing rabbits on a dogs body, hence him being ok with general toning and exercise. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 From my experience there is no cure other than amputation Sam, and that option is also dependant upon which toe, sorry. Many pet vets do not realise the stresses and strains involved in chasing rabbits on a dogs body, hence him being ok with general toning and exercise. spot on moll, Quote Link to post
Terrier Sam 297 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Thanks for the info moll. That was the last thing i wanted to hear to be honest but thanks again. I will try and get hold of this Paul Evans but does anyone know of any others? Im not overly fussed on how far away it is as long as they're good and it isnt landsend or somewhere! ATB Sam Quote Link to post
Terrier Sam 297 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Also, can anyone tell me what causes this? Is it breeding or something that I'm doing wrong/not doin enough of as i have a pup now that I obviously dont want to go the same way? ATB Sam Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I asked if the toe still appeared swollen, as once it is set hard there is nothing that can be done i am afraid. But the running dog vet will be able to give you an indication if it is a toe suitable for amputation If you cant go down the amputation route, you can still work the dog. It really depends upon how much work you want the dog for. If you are going out once or twice per week than there is no reason why the dog cannot still work. But you will have to give it time off in between with painkillers. It is caused by injury not breeding, (although some types of feet are more prone to picking up injury) just one of those unlucky things i'm afraid, it has happened to us all. 1 Quote Link to post
my hounds 307 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Also, can anyone tell me what causes this? Is it breeding or something that I'm doing wrong/not doin enough of as i have a pup now that I obviously dont want to go the same way? ATB Sam Sam sent you a PM,CHEERS. Quote Link to post
Guest Moscow Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Before you run the dog give it plenty of bike road work, mag box and bone radiol it twice a day for two weeks. If this doesnt work find a vet who will pin fire but that doesnt always work. Last resort is removal but if the toe is calloused it should not need to be removed. Quote Link to post
Guest Moscow Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Also, can anyone tell me what causes this? Is it breeding or something that I'm doing wrong/not doin enough of as i have a pup now that I obviously dont want to go the same way? ATB Sam Sounds like it has been broke it can happen to the best of dogs of any breed Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Before you run the dog give it plenty of bike road work, mag box and bone radiol it twice a day for two weeks. If this doesnt work find a vet who will pin fire but that doesnt always work. Last resort is removal but if the toe is calloused it should not need to be removed. I have never heard of a healed callosed toe being fired Moscow..the firing set's the toe solid and by the sound of it this dog's toe has allready healed solid..if not then firing it could help.. ..i have only seen one toe that has been fired and it was a front middle toe that kept popping out of joint and pointing north.. ..after it was pin fired the dog never ever had anymore trouble with it.. I had a dog several year's ago with crap feet and in the end he had to be rehomed as a pet because he had 3 calloused toe's on his front feet and one that kept popping out of joint.. ..i did try the bone radial stuff what i got of a greyhound lad..but it never worked.. Good luck Terrier Sam. Quote Link to post
Guest Moscow Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Millet, without seeing the toe we are all just guessing based off past experience Yes pin fire is done to encourage callous and fusing of the bone, the one I got done never worked. Moscow had 2 toes calloused one on each front foot they never bothered him. The bone radiol mag box treatment has worked on dogs for me but it was done straight after the injury Depending on which toe it is, removal can be bad because it puts added pressure on the remaining toes which is not good I would always seek opinion off someone who knows what there talking about ie boneman or a vet 1st and foremost before I took advice on here! 3 Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 It sounds like the toe is giving the dog pain after work, so amputation may be the only option, IF it is a toe which can be removed. Quote Link to post
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