paulk73 151 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 how much difference does this make to a bsa air rifle.??? is there a noticable difference? and how do people rate the bsa scorpion se, with a bowket blue print? reason im asking is that im thinking of buying one. cheers guys Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 My mates r10 came back with out a ping , trigger felt better, and cocking it felt shorter..that's about it ..from what I can tell..obviously its more than that , but that's what I noticed. Quote Link to post
paulk73 151 Posted June 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 cheers rob mate. still keeping the 100ks, but looking for something else to play with. Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Personally iv had a go of both..and I would prefer the 100, only downside is shot count..and unless your some big time pest controller or have serious permission there's no need for 100+ shots..imo 1 Quote Link to post
Pink or stink 162 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I am always curious as to why anyone would send anything to JB or others) unless it has an issue. My R-10 MKII was so accurate out of the box I wouldn't have dreampt about sending it to anyone for aftermarket work. To me it's all about accuracy and as far as I know none of the tweakers guarantee any imrprovement as part of the package. Is it possible that after coming back the rifle could actually be less accurate? I feel it is. Quote Link to post
paulk73 151 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 good post p or s. just picked up the scorpion, and scoped it up and shot a few groups. im impressed. need to get it out now and have a plink at further ranges, and see how it performs. then try and bag a few bunnies. Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Well pink your right there..why buy a gun that needs work..but it does make it smoother, I find the r10 clunky to cock and that was smoothed out abit and shorter, its been depinged (no biggy) and the shot count increases, but you have a lot of shots to begin with lol I know what you meen , as the saying goes, if its not broken don't fix it lol Quote Link to post
Buster321c 1,010 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) I am always curious as to why anyone would send anything to JB or others) unless it has an issue. My R-10 MKII was so accurate out of the box I wouldn't have dreampt about sending it to anyone for aftermarket work. To me it's all about accuracy and as far as I know none of the tweakers guarantee any imrprovement as part of the package. Is it possible that after coming back the rifle could actually be less accurate? I feel it is. You'll never know till you have it done . Edited June 24, 2012 by Buster321c Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Some people just love to tinker with guns..it does feel better now the shroud is chopped down to barrel, with a sak on it too it isn't all that loud Quote Link to post
Pink or stink 162 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I am always curious as to why anyone would send anything to JB or others) unless it has an issue. My R-10 MKII was so accurate out of the box I wouldn't have dreampt about sending it to anyone for aftermarket work. To me it's all about accuracy and as far as I know none of the tweakers guarantee any imrprovement as part of the package. Is it possible that after coming back the rifle could actually be less accurate? I feel it is. You'll never know till you have it done . But how would you know if you are already producing outstanding accuracy out of the box, why take a chance? what's to gain when you could actually produce detrimental results?. Ok, smoothness & confidence that all has been fettled well but no increase in accuracy then I maintain it's maybe not worth the risk. Blueprinting to me is a misnomer; imagine the original spec specifying a +/- 3 thou tolerance for any component yet under the mic it's more that that. How can JB or anyone return that component to blueprint measurements? unless they replace the part they can't. If there's a fault with the gun then by all means get it done but just because it's the vogue then I don't see the point. Quote Link to post
Buster321c 1,010 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 On a production gun , +/- 3 thou ? I think you`ll find the tolerances much more than that . How can he do it ? he simply will change the part . I am certain of one thing , if the tolerances at BSA were +/- 3 thou then JB would never have to do anything to them . and the other side of that is if they are happy to let a rilfe through quality control that is not as good as is can be , then shame on them . Quote Link to post
Pink or stink 162 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 True. When I stripped my R-10 I was shocked at the swarfe/finish so I was put off by the thing but christ it was accurate. I hear they have put 15% of their workforce in charge of quality control so going forward I hope they got it together. Saying that, I'd have another R-10 tomorrow. Quote Link to post
Buster321c 1,010 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 True. When I stripped my R-10 I was shocked at the swarfe/finish so I was put off by the thing but christ it was accurate. I hear they have put 15% of their workforce in charge of quality control so going forward I hope they got it together. Saying that, I'd have another R-10 tomorrow. My R-10 MKII was so accurate out of the box I wouldn't have dreampt about sending it to anyone for aftermarket work. So why strip it ? if it was so good out of the box and brand new ............. But that said , i have an R10 here , its been JB`d and its VERY good ............. Quote Link to post
Pink or stink 162 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'm an engineer, it's my nature. Quote Link to post
Buster321c 1,010 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Where are you ? And if your an engineer , you cant seriously say that you think that an air rifle , a production one at that , has tolerances of +/- 3 thou Edited June 24, 2012 by Buster321c Quote Link to post
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