asanley 1,009 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nowadays the guidlines are if she,s bevvied , it,s rape , makes it hard for the likes of me who don,t have much luck with sober women. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graham4877 1,181 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nowadays the guidlines are if she,s bevvied , it,s rape , makes it hard for the likes of me who don,t have much luck with sober women. Don't worry mate your not alone...lab has the same trouble :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 defo fishy to me was in that drunk a state but could remember exactly the amount of drink she had? but if he has done it he deserves all he gets but only the 2 involved really know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 when two of the jury found him not guilty its defo not wrong to have doubts, especially after reading that report!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MUDD 374 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 She may have been after the hunt horn, or maybe Not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 It took eleven hours for the jury to decide . . . .. so im guessing we are not getting anywhere near all of the info. I don't think the fact that hes a huntsman has anything to do with it. One thing i don't get was - she was wrecked, and decided to get a lift home with the huntsman, yet her husband had gone home to fetch the car, to come back, to give her a lift home????? How much sense does any of that make? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 My point is that our enemys will love such reports for their propaganda machines. They already make the public very aware of the fact that psycopaths often start off by abusing animals. They will love rape and paedophile convictions of significant figures in the fieldsports community to grease the propaganda machine! GTE, I must admit, from the evidence stated in the report I am amazed that they got a guilty conviction. I feel the same mate, and know wwhat you mean, it'l be on the lacs by tomorrow! what i find funny about all this is she ran from his car and flagged down a car and it was her hubby driving the said car! hubby caught her cheating and (I think yous know what i'm sort of thinking ) Not saying it was like that , after all a jury has found him guilty Not knowing all the facts we must trust the courts judgement. I just feel, based entirely on that one news report, that the evidence could have been interpretted in a number of ways, like you. But i didn't put this thread up to pass judgement and wouldn't want to upset the innocent further. I'm just concerned about the image all this sex crime shite is gonna give fieldsports when the antis start rolling it out to the masses. like we trusted parlament for appeal of the hunting act.......... theres loads of shagging goes on in the hunts ....... married farmers wifes, pritty things are only interested in the wallet etc i was on the jury for a inquest into the deaths of naval men when a lynx helicopter ditched in to the sea, and trust me the result was accidental death ,which i believe wasnt the case but because you have to follow guide lines the answer is more or less spelled out for you , taking in the evidence. it wasnt nice hearing there last words on radio before they died, poor families involved, but i was a part of a minority who said no sufficient evidence, but the answer was clear following guide lines............... be honest no one new what happen really, how can you say it wasnt mechanical judging on a helicopter which was smash to pieces , same impact as hitting concrete as it was the sea .................. terrible, the courts do get it wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 My point is that our enemys will love such reports for their propaganda machines. They already make the public very aware of the fact that psycopaths often start off by abusing animals. They will love rape and paedophile convictions of significant figures in the fieldsports community to grease the propaganda machine! GTE, I must admit, from the evidence stated in the report I am amazed that they got a guilty conviction. I feel the same mate, and know wwhat you mean, it'l be on the lacs by tomorrow! what i find funny about all this is she ran from his car and flagged down a car and it was her hubby driving the said car! hubby caught her cheating and (I think yous know what i'm sort of thinking ) Not saying it was like that , after all a jury has found him guilty Not knowing all the facts we must trust the courts judgement. I just feel, based entirely on that one news report, that the evidence could have been interpretted in a number of ways, like you. But i didn't put this thread up to pass judgement and wouldn't want to upset the innocent further. I'm just concerned about the image all this sex crime shite is gonna give fieldsports when the antis start rolling it out to the masses. like we trusted parlament for appeal of the hunting act.......... theres loads of shagging goes on in the hunts ....... married farmers wifes, pritty things are only interested in the wallet etc i was on the jury for a inquest into the deaths of naval men when a lynx helicopter ditched in to the sea, and trust me the result was accidental death ,which i believe wasnt the case but because you have to follow guide lines the answer is more or less spelled out for you , taking in the evidence. it wasnt nice hearing there last words on radio before they died, poor families involved, but i was a part of a minority who said no sufficient evidence, but the answer was clear following guide lines............... be honest no one new what happen really, how can you say it wasnt mechanical judging on a helicopter which was smash to pieces , same impact as hitting concrete as it was the sea .................. terrible, so i think courts and justice do get it wron , very wrong sometimes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Just think If it was Jimmy Carrs wife we`d all have to pay to sort it out for him! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Rape is an ugly act for a woman(or guy) but so is false rape. Going with what has been printed if I was on that jury, i would have voted not guilty. Now that's just my opinion on the evidence I've read on here. If he is guilty the justice has been served but I've got a feeling he will get out under appeal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 The Duncan, Ideation; you have both missed my point! I didn't for one minute suggest him being a huntsman had f**k all to do with him being found guilty. What I quite clearly said was that a huntsman being convicted of rape and the head of Pubs being convicted of rape, paedophilia and animal abuse will be used by the antis as propaganda against us all. Two serious sex crime cases of significant figures in the fieldsports community with in a week of each other, the fecking antis will be loving it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 So what exactly are you trying to say born hunter??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RossM 8,149 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 The Duncan, Ideation; you have both missed my point! I didn't for one minute suggest him being a huntsman had f**k all to do with him being found guilty. What I quite clearly said was that a huntsman being convicted of rape and the head of Pubs being convicted of rape, paedophilia and animal abuse will be used by the antis as propaganda against us all. Two serious sex crime cases of significant figures in the fieldsports community with in a week of each other, the fecking antis will be loving it! I get where your coming from mate, as well as us being violent, drug dealing, thieving, mindless thugs/gangsters we will also be rapist beasts aswell when it comes to getting tarred. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 shagging the master ........ now thats something for women to talk about..... something definately not right , when you go to a party with a partner you would know if they went missing ffs ...........if she was that drunk people would be coming up and telling you, it aint as if he carried her to the car........... she wasnt going there for a lift ............ as said she cried wolf when she had too............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 There is a fine line between taking advantage and all out rape. Going by his age, he'd have known she was married, her age, his position and the fact he was sober and her sozzled. I'd say he took advantage of her but rape, canny see it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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