what slip leads does everyone use?

[WILF 46,774]

Don't forget too that dogs can see a lot better in the dark than we can, how many folk ( used to) rely on the dog to let them know when something is close enough in to let go the slip lead and switch the lamp back on?

 

I constantly watch the dog when I am out, he tells me stuff and I tell him stuff.....sounds silly but that's how it works for me.

A slip gives you total control over what happens and sometimes no matter how well trained an animal is, you have to do the thinking for it.

Jmho

[toby63 1,236]

looks like your more into kinky games in the bedroom department millet halol good stuf

[Millet 4,497]

Could you explain toby..

[toby63 1,236]

looks like sumet that you would get tied to the bedpost with millet lol

[Guest Leveller]

he tells me stuff and I tell him stuff.....sounds silly but that's how it works for me.

 

You never listen when he says "No, stop that please" though do you?

[MARKR1985 15]

(when I'm not using razor wire or 3 strands of barb plaited together ) I use the cheapo leads with the clips cut off. i have just ordered a few from SS though.

[WILF 46,774]

Strong stuff makes excellent slips

[Acuspell 329]

None whatsoever. My dog(s) are free to work loose - they stay beside me until they see something I haven't, or I send them. If stalking, they don't run in at all, they stay beside me or just in front, a pace or two so I don't tread on them. If bushing, they go when there is something worth going after.

 

Mother, now 8

 

 

 

 

 

 

MUM and PUP (10 months this week)

 

Tigs a week or two ago. Not quite 10 months.

 

 

 

He bowled his first deer tonight. We were out blackberrying and the fallow came out about 200 yards across the stubble...he saw it and was gone. The deer didn'tknow what hit it. He was only 15 or 20 yards away before it reacted...he couldn't hold it though and it was his first one, so inexperienced. He has shown what he is capable of though - give him a year!

Edited September 5, 2012 by Acuspell

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

None whatsoever. My dog(s) are free to work loose - they stay beside me until they see something I haven't, or I send them. If stalking, they don't run in at all, they stay beside me or just in front, a pace or two so I don't tread on them. If bushing, they go when there is something worth going after.

 

Mother, now 8

 

 

 

 

 

 

MUM and PUP (10 months this week)

 

Tigs a week or two ago. Not quite 10 months.

 

 

 

He bowled his first deer tonight. We were out blackberrying and the fallow came out about 200 yards across the stubble...he saw it and was gone. The deer didn'tknow what hit it. He was only 15 or 20 yards away before it reacted...he couldn't hold it though and it was his first one, so inexperienced. He has shown what he is capable of though - give him a year!

 

Isn't that a little bit illegal?

[torchey 1,327]

just a little bit

[Guest Leveller]

Isn't that a little bit illegal?

 

No, the hunting act is all about intention and as Acuspell has already stated " We were out blackberrying " so it wasn't his intention to bring home a deer he was just out foraging and an accident happened. Had he left home and thought to himself " I fancy knocking over a fallow with my dog " and then did it, then he would've broken a law.

 

The hunting act is that simple it's such a badly drawn up law how can you prove what somebody is thinking, that's what does my head in when people bitch and moan about not being able to carry on, we can carry on there exemptions and there are ways around it.

 

Nice pics Acuspell and well done with your accident mate.

Edited September 6, 2012 by Leveller

[torchey 1,327]

So how do you reckon that would do in court if caught,out of curiousity....accident or not I think you would struggle with a working dog..cheers

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

So how do you reckon that would do in court if caught,out of curiousity....accident or not I think you would struggle with a working dog..cheers

 

As a defence, given properly by a posh solicitor, it might give "reasonable doubt".

 

Not sure I'd be mentioning it on the intenet complete with face pics though, but then that's just me.

 

Good post Leveller.

[Guest Leveller]

So how do you reckon that would do in court if caught,out of curiousity....accident or not I think you would struggle with a working dog..cheers

 

The idea is to keep it out of court, obviously every situation is different and I can only talk on personal experience but it usually starts with an interview in the local police station and if you can convince/prove to them that it was an accident and that it was never your intention to hunt a deer then the matter is put to bed there and then and that's much better than going up in front of judge and jury.

 

If you're walking out on land with permission, you've got a dog running free, ferrets and nets in tow you're quite clearly going rabbiting nobody could argue with that the landowner knows you're there everything's above board. As you get nearer a Hare/Fox/Deer jumps out of the hedge and your dog takes off after it oooops that wasn't supposed to happen. Unfortunately you're not aware of the local dogooder out filming the crow population out the corner of their eye they catch your dog running full pelt at it's quarry and turn their camera on you. This is where a breach of the hunting act comes in

1. You are whistling or trying to recall the dog and stop it (Quite obviously not wanting to hunt that species)
    
   
2. Looking the other way totally oblivious to what's going on (Again obviously not out to hunt that species)
    
   
3. Screaming "get on lad smash that fecker in" (Clearly very pleased at what's going on)
   

The dog pulls the gear down you deal with it then go on to enjoy a mornings ferreting two months later you get asked into the police station for an interview the FiveO show you the video and ask you to explain what happened on that day, you refer to your game diary/hunting life topic and read "went ferreting at Farmer A's caught 35 rabbits". So you explain that to the cop, hence the ferrets and the nets. Ok fine you're obviously on permission taking part in a perfectly legal past time as the video moves on the incident occurs. Refer back to the numbered scenarios and the outcome is below

1. Yeah sorry about that you can see I was doing everything in my power to stop the dog but it's a bit blinkered I do appologise, were the people filming it upset by the scene could I offer them my personall appology anjd just explain I was taking part in a legitimate form of pest control and the accident happened I'm sorry. (The copper accepts this they might ask you to keep the dog on a lead in future when you're walking out to your spot and he passes your appology onto the dogooder, you leave the police station, no criminal record, keep your dogs and carry on with your life)
    
   
2. Again you're out rabbiting you didn't know that had happened until it was too late Sorry blah blah blah (leave the police station everything's fine)
    
   
3. You're a gimp best you order up loads of soap on a rope
   

If you put measures in place to prove what your intention is then anything that happens after that is clearly an accident and unintentional

Edited September 6, 2012 by Leveller

[Sirius 1,391]

I like dog to work without a slip, but in certain areas I use one to prevent any accidents I use a normal gundog slip, its ideal and easy and saves buying posy slips or walking around with a peice of poly prop rope in your pocket.

 

I suppose if you have a pulling steam train of a dog its not so good, but I wont entertain that sort of dog for lamping if I can help it and I don't use a collar either.

 

Edited September 6, 2012 by Sirius