NEHunter 14 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Sounds like a springer would do me good. Or a springer terrier cross. Do you think it's possible to have a springer that will bush for the lurchers but also come shooting and pick up with me?? Or is that asking two completely different things of a dog, horses for courses etc?? I'm guessing that the bushing comes kind of natural to them? What kind of training is involved?? Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 The lack of a good bushing/ markin up dog makes for a very dull walk. Quote Link to post
spec 45 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 for me, I favour a pure spaniel - you can get a better level of obedience from them, there's no cover they won't go through, and they're unlikely to get to ground. I would favour a springer but it's the lack of giving Tongue that would put me off for working with the lurcher. Deffaintatly will face any cover and will hunt up like a maniac all day long you might be surprised re. giving tongue, my cocker sings like a good'un on fox, but is totally silent on any other quarry. Didn't expect it at all tbh and didn't know what the f**k was happening the first time she done it! Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 I'd imagine you got a one of spec. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Sounds like a springer would do me good. Or a springer terrier cross. Do you think it's possible to have a springer that will bush for the lurchers but also come shooting and pick up with me?? Or is that asking two completely different things of a dog, horses for courses etc?? I'm guessing that the bushing comes kind of natural to them? What kind of training is involved?? You would have to do the gun training first, in order to steady it up, other wise it would be running in etc and be a fecking nightmare for shooting over. Quote Link to post
sweeper 156 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) Planning to fetch in a springer meself next season, but for the last few seasons used this boy, who was gifted from a good friend, he's a proper workhorse and if its there he will find it, works like a year old even at nine a black jack russel eh...nice looking dog him Edited June 11, 2012 by sweeper Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 NE Hunter if you have two russels that wont bush, dinny give up on them... They dont know the game,fetch them out witha dog working cover they will follow, Hopefully I have had couple of ratching types since being a boy, Had a Ped smooth fox terrier that learnt the game by watching others.. If you get them out amoung the rabbits they will learn.. Give them a try you have nothing to loose... 1 Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Got to agree with you on that Giro.. 1 Quote Link to post
NEHunter 14 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Giro, you are absolutely right in what you say.. No point in buying another dog to just leave the terriers at home! I will wait until the winter comes and see what I can make of these two, if nothing else they will enjoy the days out. I'm in no rush and I'm only working them for the fun of seen the dogs work so it's just a bit of fun, nothing serious so it can't go wrong! Cheers for all the replys. Quote Link to post
Chid 6,625 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Giro, you are absolutely right in what you say.. No point in buying another dog to just leave the terriers at home! I will wait until the winter comes and see what I can make of these two, if nothing else they will enjoy the days out. I'm in no rush and I'm only working them for the fun of seen the dogs work so it's just a bit of fun, nothing serious so it can't go wrong! Cheers for all the replys. Get the russells out now while there are the dumb young rabbits about as there is plenty of scent about during the day Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Give them a go now fella summer evenings and early morning, there are more rabbits about now.. They will be sitting in nettle patches. Have any of your pals not got a wee terrier to show them the ropes?? Quote Link to post
NEHunter 14 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 I will ask around, don't know anyone off hand, but then I don't know hardly anyone with Lurchers either! I'm sure I will be able to get in contact with someone though and have a day out and see how they go! Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,777 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 see if you can throw some treats/biscuit into the bush once they get into cover it might help them click faster Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 If you just get them around lots of scent and rabbits, and also play with them with a dead rabbit etc, maybe chucking it into the long grass etc and geeing them up with it. They will be screaming their heads off after them soon enough. Quote Link to post
NEHunter 14 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 It's not that they don't hunt up though lads, they go mad for a rabbit that the lurchers caught.. They just don't like cover, nettles etc and they won't enter. Maybe once they have realised that cover= chase then they will click on!! Quote Link to post
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