whippets for working?

[Moll. 1,770]

Never found by allowing my dogs to hunt up through the day it affected their behaviour/training at night when lamping, same with everyone i know, in fact when out on my own lamping i allow the dogs to hunt up through cover, they can often find what the lamp cannot.

It is all about the training, dogs are intelligent enough to know the score if shown properly

[reddawn 2,173]

I guess it's one of those things . . . . . they are always going to get compared to lurchers (naturally). And i would agree, when it comes to lamping, they are not going to beat a well bred, and handy lurcher, well, certain x's anyway. As i believe there are going to be some (many?) lurchers out there that can't last anymore than a decent whippet, or even last as long, there is a HUGE amount of shit bred in the lurcher world. But in general, if it was a quality whippet or a quality purpose bred lamp dog, then the whippet is going to fall behind. However, they are a lot of fun to watch, and like has been said, capable of 20's on the lamo, which for many is going to be plenty, with regard to avaliable quarry, and desire to catch high numbers.

 

However, when it comes to mooching and hunting up, i'm not so sure. I've not seen lots and lots of whippets, but i would put mine against any lurcher i've seen working daytime, and know that i certainly would not be embaressed. HE will find game that other miss, go that extra mile (often literally), has a nose like a bloodhound, and a real drive to find his quarry and push it out. Now obviously its mainly the humble bunny that is being hunted, but i really think that, at that game, it's a bloody good dog to have about, especially as part of a 'team'. Having said that, he will have a crack at anything that gets up, and has NEVER disappointed me, when it comes to his bottle or ability to finish the job.

Im in agreement with most of that,i like whippets,ive seen what good uns are capable of,yet,ive also seen what they lack.A good smaller type lurcher,to me,is a better option.

 

Fairplay matey, i'm not going to argue with that, but so far, i've yet to see a small lurcher better than my whip at hunting up daytime. Some of them couldnt find game in a telephone box.

I'm not taking anything away from Flinn he is bloody good at hunting up and when out he WIll work a whole mountain for ya and if there's even a trace of life there he will find it but my observation about one spectrum of Lurcher owner (lamper ) they don't allow there dogs to hunt up per say in day as it can course unnecessary problems at night. I've never really let missy do it as Im lamper through and through and I bet there's 100's out there like me. I wonder how good these Lurchers would be if there main thing was day work and not being constricted in how far they can go. I think there be alot more Lurchers out there like finn. Same as most whippets are brought by day folk so hence why you seen alot of good whippets in the day but switch that then there normally naff at night. yes you do get an alround type but I mean you normally really specialise in one type

Just my take

 

 

sorry to burst ye bubble pal, but thats a lot of shite, dogs are more than capable a telling the diffrence between day an night work, i have worked every running dog i have ever had during the day, letting them hunt up an even ferreting with them, but they were all 1st an foremost lamping dogs, an they all knew the diffrence between the 2, even seen umpteen diffrent lamping dogs that had never been allowed to hunt up as pups or saplings, yet in adulthood were given the chance an took to it like a duckling to water

[KittleRox 2,147]

[birddog 1,354]

i have a lurcher that works the lamp off the lead, stays at heel till sent on, the same bitch works cover like a spaniel maybe a bit big but she goes where she can, as a rule i can keep her within shotgun range, using a gate net she works sometimes depending on the size of the field hundreds of yards away and takes hand signals if she's struggling. i would say imo and experience they can tell not only night and day but lots more as well including the weather and differentiating species when out working. ive had whippets do similar perhaps not as good as a collie lurcher but they too can learn different skills for night and day work

[Guest born to run1083]

I guess it's one of those things . . . . . they are always going to get compared to lurchers (naturally). And i would agree, when it comes to lamping, they are not going to beat a well bred, and handy lurcher, well, certain x's anyway. As i believe there are going to be some (many?) lurchers out there that can't last anymore than a decent whippet, or even last as long, there is a HUGE amount of shit bred in the lurcher world. But in general, if it was a quality whippet or a quality purpose bred lamp dog, then the whippet is going to fall behind. However, they are a lot of fun to watch, and like has been said, capable of 20's on the lamo, which for many is going to be plenty, with regard to avaliable quarry, and desire to catch high numbers.

 

However, when it comes to mooching and hunting up, i'm not so sure. I've not seen lots and lots of whippets, but i would put mine against any lurcher i've seen working daytime, and know that i certainly would not be embaressed. HE will find game that other miss, go that extra mile (often literally), has a nose like a bloodhound, and a real drive to find his quarry and push it out. Now obviously its mainly the humble bunny that is being hunted, but i really think that, at that game, it's a bloody good dog to have about, especially as part of a 'team'. Having said that, he will have a crack at anything that gets up, and has NEVER disappointed me, when it comes to his bottle or ability to finish the job.

Im in agreement with most of that,i like whippets,ive seen what good uns are capable of,yet,ive also seen what they lack.A good smaller type lurcher,to me,is a better option.

 

Fairplay matey, i'm not going to argue with that, but so far, i've yet to see a small lurcher better than my whip at hunting up daytime. Some of them couldnt find game in a telephone box.

I'm not taking anything away from Flinn he is bloody good at hunting up and when out he WIll work a whole mountain for ya and if there's even a trace of life there he will find it but my observation about one spectrum of Lurcher owner (lamper ) they don't allow there dogs to hunt up per say in day as it can course unnecessary problems at night. I've never really let missy do it as Im lamper through and through and I bet there's 100's out there like me. I wonder how good these Lurchers would be if there main thing was day work and not being constricted in how far they can go. I think there be alot more Lurchers out there like finn. Same as most whippets are brought by day folk so hence why you seen alot of good whippets in the day but switch that then there normally naff at night. yes you do get an alround type but I mean you normally really specialise in one type

Just my take

 

 

sorry to burst ye bubble pal, but thats a lot of shite, dogs are more than capable a telling the diffrence between day an night work, i have worked every running dog i have ever had during the day, letting them hunt up an even ferreting with them, but they were all 1st an foremost lamping dogs, an they all knew the diffrence between the 2, even seen umpteen diffrent lamping dogs that had never been allowed to hunt up as pups or saplings, yet in adulthood were given the chance an took to it like a duckling to water

Well we all have our view and I think it does make a difference of course I know dogs can do both day and night I don't think my explanation was very clear. I also like a dog to return straight after run without a whistle or call second nature. I think dogs that have been freely aloud to run around miles away where ever they chose with no boundaries or restrictions find it hard to adjust. Go get yourself a beagle or hound from

The hunt for example that's had no restrictions then see how long it would take to break to the lamping game.

[birddog 1,354]

I guess it's one of those things . . . . . they are always going to get compared to lurchers (naturally). And i would agree, when it comes to lamping, they are not going to beat a well bred, and handy lurcher, well, certain x's anyway. As i believe there are going to be some (many?) lurchers out there that can't last anymore than a decent whippet, or even last as long, there is a HUGE amount of shit bred in the lurcher world. But in general, if it was a quality whippet or a quality purpose bred lamp dog, then the whippet is going to fall behind. However, they are a lot of fun to watch, and like has been said, capable of 20's on the lamo, which for many is going to be plenty, with regard to avaliable quarry, and desire to catch high numbers.

 

However, when it comes to mooching and hunting up, i'm not so sure. I've not seen lots and lots of whippets, but i would put mine against any lurcher i've seen working daytime, and know that i certainly would not be embaressed. HE will find game that other miss, go that extra mile (often literally), has a nose like a bloodhound, and a real drive to find his quarry and push it out. Now obviously its mainly the humble bunny that is being hunted, but i really think that, at that game, it's a bloody good dog to have about, especially as part of a 'team'. Having said that, he will have a crack at anything that gets up, and has NEVER disappointed me, when it comes to his bottle or ability to finish the job.

Im in agreement with most of that,i like whippets,ive seen what good uns are capable of,yet,ive also seen what they lack.A good smaller type lurcher,to me,is a better option.

 

Fairplay matey, i'm not going to argue with that, but so far, i've yet to see a small lurcher better than my whip at hunting up daytime. Some of them couldnt find game in a telephone box.

I'm not taking anything away from Flinn he is bloody good at hunting up and when out he WIll work a whole mountain for ya and if there's even a trace of life there he will find it but my observation about one spectrum of Lurcher owner (lamper ) they don't allow there dogs to hunt up per say in day as it can course unnecessary problems at night. I've never really let missy do it as Im lamper through and through and I bet there's 100's out there like me. I wonder how good these Lurchers would be if there main thing was day work and not being constricted in how far they can go. I think there be alot more Lurchers out there like finn. Same as most whippets are brought by day folk so hence why you seen alot of good whippets in the day but switch that then there normally naff at night. yes you do get an alround type but I mean you normally really specialise in one type

Just my take

 

 

sorry to burst ye bubble pal, but thats a lot of shite, dogs are more than capable a telling the diffrence between day an night work, i have worked every running dog i have ever had during the day, letting them hunt up an even ferreting with them, but they were all 1st an foremost lamping dogs, an they all knew the diffrence between the 2, even seen umpteen diffrent lamping dogs that had never been allowed to hunt up as pups or saplings, yet in adulthood were given the chance an took to it like a duckling to water

Well we all have our view and I think it does make a difference of course I know dogs can do both day and night I don't think my explanation was very clear. I also like a dog to return straight after run without a whistle or call second nature. I think dogs that have been freely aloud to run around miles away where ever they chose with no boundaries or restrictions find it hard to adjust. Go get yourself a beagle or hound from

The hunt for example that's had no restrictions then see how long it would take to break to the lamping game.

or train it to both from a pup

[Guest born to run1083]

Just for clarification as well not talking working them a few hundred meters away I'm talking dogs that will happily travel a mile or so away after game. Being honest ideation Flinn is shot hot as a day dog he really is and I've made it clear I would love him over my bitch but you did struggle at night with him. Surely you can appreciate what I'm trying to explain lol

[onelife88 1]

I guess it's one of those things . . . . . they are always going to get compared to lurchers (naturally). And i would agree, when it comes to lamping, they are not going to beat a well bred, and handy lurcher, well, certain x's anyway. As i believe there are going to be some (many?) lurchers out there that can't last anymore than a decent whippet, or even last as long, there is a HUGE amount of shit bred in the lurcher world. But in general, if it was a quality whippet or a quality purpose bred lamp dog, then the whippet is going to fall behind. However, they are a lot of fun to watch, and like has been said, capable of 20's on the lamo, which for many is going to be plenty, with regard to avaliable quarry, and desire to catch high numbers.

 

However, when it comes to mooching and hunting up, i'm not so sure. I've not seen lots and lots of whippets, but i would put mine against any lurcher i've seen working daytime, and know that i certainly would not be embaressed. HE will find game that other miss, go that extra mile (often literally), has a nose like a bloodhound, and a real drive to find his quarry and push it out. Now obviously its mainly the humble bunny that is being hunted, but i really think that, at that game, it's a bloody good dog to have about, especially as part of a 'team'. Having said that, he will have a crack at anything that gets up, and has NEVER disappointed me, when it comes to his bottle or ability to finish the job.

Im in agreement with most of that,i like whippets,ive seen what good uns are capable of,yet,ive also seen what they lack.A good smaller type lurcher,to me,is a better option.

 

Fairplay matey, i'm not going to argue with that, but so far, i've yet to see a small lurcher better than my whip at hunting up daytime. Some of them couldnt find game in a telephone box.

I'm not taking anything away from Flinn he is bloody good at hunting up and when out he WIll work a whole mountain for ya and if there's even a trace of life there he will find it but my observation about one spectrum of Lurcher owner (lamper ) they don't allow there dogs to hunt up per say in day as it can course unnecessary problems at night. I've never really let missy do it as Im lamper through and through and I bet there's 100's out there like me. I wonder how good these Lurchers would be if there main thing was day work and not being constricted in how far they can go. I think there be alot more Lurchers out there like finn. Same as most whippets are brought by day folk so hence why you seen alot of good whippets in the day but switch that then there normally naff at night. yes you do get an alround type but I mean you normally really specialise in one type

Just my take

 

 

sorry to burst ye bubble pal, but thats a lot of shite, dogs are more than capable a telling the diffrence between day an night work, i have worked every running dog i have ever had during the day, letting them hunt up an even ferreting with them, but they were all 1st an foremost lamping dogs, an they all knew the diffrence between the 2, even seen umpteen diffrent lamping dogs that had never been allowed to hunt up as pups or saplings, yet in adulthood were given the chance an took to it like a duckling to water

ya your right there reddawn mate hes speaking bollox as usual think he knows it all but he dont

[Guest born to run1083]

I guess it's one of those things . . . . . they are always going to get compared to lurchers (naturally). And i would agree, when it comes to lamping, they are not going to beat a well bred, and handy lurcher, well, certain x's anyway. As i believe there are going to be some (many?) lurchers out there that can't last anymore than a decent whippet, or even last as long, there is a HUGE amount of shit bred in the lurcher world. But in general, if it was a quality whippet or a quality purpose bred lamp dog, then the whippet is going to fall behind. However, they are a lot of fun to watch, and like has been said, capable of 20's on the lamo, which for many is going to be plenty, with regard to avaliable quarry, and desire to catch high numbers.

 

However, when it comes to mooching and hunting up, i'm not so sure. I've not seen lots and lots of whippets, but i would put mine against any lurcher i've seen working daytime, and know that i certainly would not be embaressed. HE will find game that other miss, go that extra mile (often literally), has a nose like a bloodhound, and a real drive to find his quarry and push it out. Now obviously its mainly the humble bunny that is being hunted, but i really think that, at that game, it's a bloody good dog to have about, especially as part of a 'team'. Having said that, he will have a crack at anything that gets up, and has NEVER disappointed me, when it comes to his bottle or ability to finish the job.

Im in agreement with most of that,i like whippets,ive seen what good uns are capable of,yet,ive also seen what they lack.A good smaller type lurcher,to me,is a better option.

 

Fairplay matey, i'm not going to argue with that, but so far, i've yet to see a small lurcher better than my whip at hunting up daytime. Some of them couldnt find game in a telephone box.

I'm not taking anything away from Flinn he is bloody good at hunting up and when out he WIll work a whole mountain for ya and if there's even a trace of life there he will find it but my observation about one spectrum of Lurcher owner (lamper ) they don't allow there dogs to hunt up per say in day as it can course unnecessary problems at night. I've never really let missy do it as Im lamper through and through and I bet there's 100's out there like me. I wonder how good these Lurchers would be if there main thing was day work and not being constricted in how far they can go. I think there be alot more Lurchers out there like finn. Same as most whippets are brought by day folk so hence why you seen alot of good whippets in the day but switch that then there normally naff at night. yes you do get an alround type but I mean you normally really specialise in one type

Just my take

 

 

sorry to burst ye bubble pal, but thats a lot of shite, dogs are more than capable a telling the diffrence between day an night work, i have worked every running dog i have ever had during the day, letting them hunt up an even ferreting with them, but they were all 1st an foremost lamping dogs, an they all knew the diffrence between the 2, even seen umpteen diffrent lamping dogs that had never been allowed to hunt up as pups or saplings, yet in adulthood were given the chance an took to it like a duckling to water

ya your right there reddawn mate hes speaking bollox as usual think he knows it all but he dont

Aye dan, keep chatting don't think I forgot about you

[reddawn 2,173]

I guess it's one of those things . . . . . they are always going to get compared to lurchers (naturally). And i would agree, when it comes to lamping, they are not going to beat a well bred, and handy lurcher, well, certain x's anyway. As i believe there are going to be some (many?) lurchers out there that can't last anymore than a decent whippet, or even last as long, there is a HUGE amount of shit bred in the lurcher world. But in general, if it was a quality whippet or a quality purpose bred lamp dog, then the whippet is going to fall behind. However, they are a lot of fun to watch, and like has been said, capable of 20's on the lamo, which for many is going to be plenty, with regard to avaliable quarry, and desire to catch high numbers.

 

However, when it comes to mooching and hunting up, i'm not so sure. I've not seen lots and lots of whippets, but i would put mine against any lurcher i've seen working daytime, and know that i certainly would not be embaressed. HE will find game that other miss, go that extra mile (often literally), has a nose like a bloodhound, and a real drive to find his quarry and push it out. Now obviously its mainly the humble bunny that is being hunted, but i really think that, at that game, it's a bloody good dog to have about, especially as part of a 'team'. Having said that, he will have a crack at anything that gets up, and has NEVER disappointed me, when it comes to his bottle or ability to finish the job.

Im in agreement with most of that,i like whippets,ive seen what good uns are capable of,yet,ive also seen what they lack.A good smaller type lurcher,to me,is a better option.

 

Fairplay matey, i'm not going to argue with that, but so far, i've yet to see a small lurcher better than my whip at hunting up daytime. Some of them couldnt find game in a telephone box.

I'm not taking anything away from Flinn he is bloody good at hunting up and when out he WIll work a whole mountain for ya and if there's even a trace of life there he will find it but my observation about one spectrum of Lurcher owner (lamper ) they don't allow there dogs to hunt up per say in day as it can course unnecessary problems at night. I've never really let missy do it as Im lamper through and through and I bet there's 100's out there like me. I wonder how good these Lurchers would be if there main thing was day work and not being constricted in how far they can go. I think there be alot more Lurchers out there like finn. Same as most whippets are brought by day folk so hence why you seen alot of good whippets in the day but switch that then there normally naff at night. yes you do get an alround type but I mean you normally really specialise in one type

Just my take

 

 

sorry to burst ye bubble pal, but thats a lot of shite, dogs are more than capable a telling the diffrence between day an night work, i have worked every running dog i have ever had during the day, letting them hunt up an even ferreting with them, but they were all 1st an foremost lamping dogs, an they all knew the diffrence between the 2, even seen umpteen diffrent lamping dogs that had never been allowed to hunt up as pups or saplings, yet in adulthood were given the chance an took to it like a duckling to water

Well we all have our view and I think it does make a difference of course I know dogs can do both day and night I don't think my explanation was very clear. I also like a dog to return straight after run without a whistle or call second nature. I think dogs that have been freely aloud to run around miles away where ever they chose with no boundaries or restrictions find it hard to adjust. Go get yourself a beagle or hound from

The hunt for example that's had no restrictions then see how long it would take to break to the lamping game.

 

 

 

your barmy mate, are you 1 a the older generation that refuses to see he dont know it all???

 

a hound is a million miles away from a lurcher, an i agree way birddog, my mutts know diffrence between walking them, ferreting them an lamping or bushing, if terrier comes for a wak they know bunnys will apear out bushes, if no terrier they hunt up themselves, i have a bitch here that knows exactly what a lamp turned off means, yet the same bitch will hunt any moorland i let them, if you are failing to get a dog to do both, its plain an simple, you aint putting the dog in them situations often enuff

[onelife88 1]

I guess it's one of those things . . . . . they are always going to get compared to lurchers (naturally). And i would agree, when it comes to lamping, they are not going to beat a well bred, and handy lurcher, well, certain x's anyway. As i believe there are going to be some (many?) lurchers out there that can't last anymore than a decent whippet, or even last as long, there is a HUGE amount of shit bred in the lurcher world. But in general, if it was a quality whippet or a quality purpose bred lamp dog, then the whippet is going to fall behind. However, they are a lot of fun to watch, and like has been said, capable of 20's on the lamo, which for many is going to be plenty, with regard to avaliable quarry, and desire to catch high numbers.

 

However, when it comes to mooching and hunting up, i'm not so sure. I've not seen lots and lots of whippets, but i would put mine against any lurcher i've seen working daytime, and know that i certainly would not be embaressed. HE will find game that other miss, go that extra mile (often literally), has a nose like a bloodhound, and a real drive to find his quarry and push it out. Now obviously its mainly the humble bunny that is being hunted, but i really think that, at that game, it's a bloody good dog to have about, especially as part of a 'team'. Having said that, he will have a crack at anything that gets up, and has NEVER disappointed me, when it comes to his bottle or ability to finish the job.

Im in agreement with most of that,i like whippets,ive seen what good uns are capable of,yet,ive also seen what they lack.A good smaller type lurcher,to me,is a better option.

 

Fairplay matey, i'm not going to argue with that, but so far, i've yet to see a small lurcher better than my whip at hunting up daytime. Some of them couldnt find game in a telephone box.

I'm not taking anything away from Flinn he is bloody good at hunting up and when out he WIll work a whole mountain for ya and if there's even a trace of life there he will find it but my observation about one spectrum of Lurcher owner (lamper ) they don't allow there dogs to hunt up per say in day as it can course unnecessary problems at night. I've never really let missy do it as Im lamper through and through and I bet there's 100's out there like me. I wonder how good these Lurchers would be if there main thing was day work and not being constricted in how far they can go. I think there be alot more Lurchers out there like finn. Same as most whippets are brought by day folk so hence why you seen alot of good whippets in the day but switch that then there normally naff at night. yes you do get an alround type but I mean you normally really specialise in one type

Just my take

 

 

sorry to burst ye bubble pal, but thats a lot of shite, dogs are more than capable a telling the diffrence between day an night work, i have worked every running dog i have ever had during the day, letting them hunt up an even ferreting with them, but they were all 1st an foremost lamping dogs, an they all knew the diffrence between the 2, even seen umpteen diffrent lamping dogs that had never been allowed to hunt up as pups or saplings, yet in adulthood were given the chance an took to it like a duckling to water

ya your right there reddawn mate hes speaking bollox as usual think he knows it all but he dont

Aye dan, keep chatting don't think I forgot about you

lol i ant that boy u bullied i been hunting with him and hes well tidy so i dunno what u r problem is with him Edited June 20, 2012 by onelife88

[Guest born to run1083]

I guess it's one of those things . . . . . they are always going to get compared to lurchers (naturally). And i would agree, when it comes to lamping, they are not going to beat a well bred, and handy lurcher, well, certain x's anyway. As i believe there are going to be some (many?) lurchers out there that can't last anymore than a decent whippet, or even last as long, there is a HUGE amount of shit bred in the lurcher world. But in general, if it was a quality whippet or a quality purpose bred lamp dog, then the whippet is going to fall behind. However, they are a lot of fun to watch, and like has been said, capable of 20's on the lamo, which for many is going to be plenty, with regard to avaliable quarry, and desire to catch high numbers.

 

However, when it comes to mooching and hunting up, i'm not so sure. I've not seen lots and lots of whippets, but i would put mine against any lurcher i've seen working daytime, and know that i certainly would not be embaressed. HE will find game that other miss, go that extra mile (often literally), has a nose like a bloodhound, and a real drive to find his quarry and push it out. Now obviously its mainly the humble bunny that is being hunted, but i really think that, at that game, it's a bloody good dog to have about, especially as part of a 'team'. Having said that, he will have a crack at anything that gets up, and has NEVER disappointed me, when it comes to his bottle or ability to finish the job.

Im in agreement with most of that,i like whippets,ive seen what good uns are capable of,yet,ive also seen what they lack.A good smaller type lurcher,to me,is a better option.

 

Fairplay matey, i'm not going to argue with that, but so far, i've yet to see a small lurcher better than my whip at hunting up daytime. Some of them couldnt find game in a telephone box.

I'm not taking anything away from Flinn he is bloody good at hunting up and when out he WIll work a whole mountain for ya and if there's even a trace of life there he will find it but my observation about one spectrum of Lurcher owner (lamper ) they don't allow there dogs to hunt up per say in day as it can course unnecessary problems at night. I've never really let missy do it as Im lamper through and through and I bet there's 100's out there like me. I wonder how good these Lurchers would be if there main thing was day work and not being constricted in how far they can go. I think there be alot more Lurchers out there like finn. Same as most whippets are brought by day folk so hence why you seen alot of good whippets in the day but switch that then there normally naff at night. yes you do get an alround type but I mean you normally really specialise in one type

Just my take

 

 

sorry to burst ye bubble pal, but thats a lot of shite, dogs are more than capable a telling the diffrence between day an night work, i have worked every running dog i have ever had during the day, letting them hunt up an even ferreting with them, but they were all 1st an foremost lamping dogs, an they all knew the diffrence between the 2, even seen umpteen diffrent lamping dogs that had never been allowed to hunt up as pups or saplings, yet in adulthood were given the chance an took to it like a duckling to water

Well we all have our view and I think it does make a difference of course I know dogs can do both day and night I don't think my explanation was very clear. I also like a dog to return straight after run without a whistle or call second nature. I think dogs that have been freely aloud to run around miles away where ever they chose with no boundaries or restrictions find it hard to adjust. Go get yourself a beagle or hound from

The hunt for example that's had no restrictions then see how long it would take to break to the lamping game.

 

 

 

your barmy mate, are you 1 a the older generation that refuses to see he dont know it all???

 

a hound is a million miles away from a lurcher, an i agree way birddog, my mutts know diffrence between walking them, ferreting them an lamping or bushing, if terrier comes for a wak they know bunnys will apear out bushes, if no terrier they hunt up themselves, i have a bitch here that knows exactly what a lamp turned off means, yet the same bitch will hunt any moorland i let them, if you are failing to get a dog to do both, its plain an simple, you aint putting the dog in them situations often enuff

I'm the younger generation haha lol I know I don't know it all but if it's something that I have strong beliefs about I'm strong opinionated lol I understand your points mate just I seen and been taught different lol there's no right or wrong way it's all just opinions

[Guest born to run1083]

I guess it's one of those things . . . . . they are always going to get compared to lurchers (naturally). And i would agree, when it comes to lamping, they are not going to beat a well bred, and handy lurcher, well, certain x's anyway. As i believe there are going to be some (many?) lurchers out there that can't last anymore than a decent whippet, or even last as long, there is a HUGE amount of shit bred in the lurcher world. But in general, if it was a quality whippet or a quality purpose bred lamp dog, then the whippet is going to fall behind. However, they are a lot of fun to watch, and like has been said, capable of 20's on the lamo, which for many is going to be plenty, with regard to avaliable quarry, and desire to catch high numbers.

 

However, when it comes to mooching and hunting up, i'm not so sure. I've not seen lots and lots of whippets, but i would put mine against any lurcher i've seen working daytime, and know that i certainly would not be embaressed. HE will find game that other miss, go that extra mile (often literally), has a nose like a bloodhound, and a real drive to find his quarry and push it out. Now obviously its mainly the humble bunny that is being hunted, but i really think that, at that game, it's a bloody good dog to have about, especially as part of a 'team'. Having said that, he will have a crack at anything that gets up, and has NEVER disappointed me, when it comes to his bottle or ability to finish the job.

Im in agreement with most of that,i like whippets,ive seen what good uns are capable of,yet,ive also seen what they lack.A good smaller type lurcher,to me,is a better option.

 

Fairplay matey, i'm not going to argue with that, but so far, i've yet to see a small lurcher better than my whip at hunting up daytime. Some of them couldnt find game in a telephone box.

I'm not taking anything away from Flinn he is bloody good at hunting up and when out he WIll work a whole mountain for ya and if there's even a trace of life there he will find it but my observation about one spectrum of Lurcher owner (lamper ) they don't allow there dogs to hunt up per say in day as it can course unnecessary problems at night. I've never really let missy do it as Im lamper through and through and I bet there's 100's out there like me. I wonder how good these Lurchers would be if there main thing was day work and not being constricted in how far they can go. I think there be alot more Lurchers out there like finn. Same as most whippets are brought by day folk so hence why you seen alot of good whippets in the day but switch that then there normally naff at night. yes you do get an alround type but I mean you normally really specialise in one type

Just my take

 

 

sorry to burst ye bubble pal, but thats a lot of shite, dogs are more than capable a telling the diffrence between day an night work, i have worked every running dog i have ever had during the day, letting them hunt up an even ferreting with them, but they were all 1st an foremost lamping dogs, an they all knew the diffrence between the 2, even seen umpteen diffrent lamping dogs that had never been allowed to hunt up as pups or saplings, yet in adulthood were given the chance an took to it like a duckling to water

ya your right there reddawn mate hes speaking bollox as usual think he knows it all but he dont

Aye dan, keep chatting don't think I forgot about you

lol i ant that boy u bullied i been hunting with him and hes well tidy so i dunno what u r problem is with him

Well keep hunting with him and your soon learn I'm not saying over open forum my griefs but soon enough his true colours will shine. And for one thing I didn't bully he would slag me off behind a computer act the big or mighty but face to face he's a snivelling little girl. People like that do my head in, man up fir f sake lol

[chartpolski 24,119]

BTR1083, I respect your opinion, but with all due respect, you say you are "the younger generation", have you any experience with lamping dogs ? I ask this, because just about every dog I have owned has worked day, hunting up it's own quarry; and night with the lamp, and returning as soon as the beam is off. Now, almost every one I've known in the game was the same.. their dogs worked day AND night to varying degrees of proficiency. I know pedigree Whippets that do all aspects of hunting, ferreting, lamping, and do it well. You are either putting your point across not very well; or you are basing your opinion on limited experience. As I say, I respect your opinion, but it conflicts with what many on here have experienced.

 

Cheers.

[Guest born to run1083]

BTR1083, I respect your opinion, but with all due respect, you say you are "the younger generation", have you any experience with lamping dogs ? I ask this, because just about every dog I have owned has worked day, hunting up it's own quarry; and night with the lamp, and returning as soon as the beam is off. Now, almost every one I've known in the game was the same.. their dogs worked day AND night to varying degrees of proficiency. I know pedigree Whippets that do all aspects of hunting, ferreting, lamping, and do it well. You are either putting your point across not very well; or you are basing your opinion on limited experience. As I say, I respect your opinion, but it conflicts with what many on here have experienced.

 

Cheers.

Hi yeah valid points being honest, and yes I have enough experience with lamp dogs, not decades but enough in season I'm out 4-5 times a week at night and out working them in the day when I feel like it. My dad has 35 year experience and he preferes day time. I know dogs can do both but when you have dogs that hunt up like beagles I can promise it's not an easy transition. I could give a list of dogs I've seen at night that do alot in the day that arnt my cuppa tea. Plus I find with anything it takes practice to know the difference maybe I'm in patient but I think you get a better animal if it specialises in one and these are the dogs I'm talking about. I expect alot out of my dogs I'm being honest but I do put the time in on training. if anything a few might say over the top.