foxfan 479 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 but i also agree way the pther point that if hunters want to be allowed to get there point across, then they should be allowed, but my advice to anybody would be to tread carefully, very carefully I just dont know why they would want to huntings a sport/hobby not a popularity contest ....Your going to be a long while standing there waiting for the thumbs up ! Remember, the waterloo cup at its hieght of popularity had to lay on special trains from London there were that many spectators. The media shapes public opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,384 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Even the organisations who supposedly represent fields sports feel the way forward is to condem certain other sections of field sports, now they either guess or know that this will somehow give them an "in" with the wider community.......look at any BASC or game keeping publications, they never miss a trick when it comes to sticking the knife into dog lads so what f*****g chance have you got with someone like the bbc ?? As I said, tell them all to go f**k themselves and enjoy your dog and your hunting. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Even the organisations who supposedly represent fields sports feel the way forward is to condem certain other sections of field sports, now they either guess or know that this will somehow give them an "in" with the wider community.......look at any BASC or game keeping publications, they never miss a trick when it comes to sticking the knife into dog lads so what f*****g chance have you got with someone like the bbc ?? As I said, tell them all to go f**k themselves and enjoy your dog and your hunting. very true mate you only have to look who was sold down the river with the hunting act Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,598 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Remember, the waterloo cup at its hieght of popularity had to lay on special trains from London there were that many spectators. The media shapes public opinion. Yes but what % of the hunting fraternity was ever about " a spectator sport "......im sure the majority of die hard hunters would sacrifice a " sporting event " to quietly go about their business..................meaning public opinion is neither here nor there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted June 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) Funny thing is am well all right jack we ll once again agree to disagree , hark for ' ard Edited June 9, 2012 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Also, since the ban I've realised what it must be like to be the target of racist attacks, for that is exactly what is happening to working dog people all over the country now, with the general public whipped into a state of hysteria each time they see someone out working a lurcher. I've even been accused of hare coursing whilst out ferreting! So wouldn't it be good to be able to diffuse the fog of misunderstanding, and at the same time, deflect some of that unwanted, unjust and irrational hatred, which would thereby give working dog men and women more chance to go about their business without being the target of so much unwarranted attention! Think about it. Was not Eli Duckett from Last of the Summer Wine was it? Only bloke I know who could mistake a Lurcher for a Ferret! Or are you breeding those Corgi lurchers now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Remember, the waterloo cup at its hieght of popularity had to lay on special trains from London there were that many spectators. The media shapes public opinion. Yes but what % of the hunting fraternity was ever about " a spectator sport "......im sure the majority of die hard hunters would sacrifice a " sporting event " to quietly go about their business..................meaning public opinion is neither here nor there. The public are still neither here nor there, their not realy interested, but when they see things on the telly that seem unfair to them or stimulate their compassion, they form an opinion. Would they not have a different opinion if they saw things portrayed in a positive light ? Thats the power of the media. Anyway i agree that we aint gonna change the way they report things, so, yeah, keep yer head down and carry on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spade 224 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Trouble with the media is that they have now put so many lies about us to the public you are either a rich b*****d riding roughshod over the peasantry or a badger baiter or illegal deer/hare courser. It would take a huge swing to make joe public think any different. Trouble is if the likes of fieldsport channel were to make something then joe public still wouldn't see it as its a dedicated channel without broad appeal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reddawn 2,173 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Trouble with the media is that they have now put so many lies about us to the public you are either a rich b*****d riding roughshod over the peasantry or a badger baiter or illegal deer/hare courser. It would take a huge swing to make joe public think any different. Trouble is if the likes of fieldsport channel were to make something then joe public still wouldn't see it as its a dedicated channel without broad appeal. gotta make ye wonder why the fieldsports channel is actually the fieldsports channel, afterall, why didnt they just approach 1 or more of the other channels thats broadcast all over britain, i may be a million miles away here, but maybe, just maybe, they themselves knew that the other channels couldnt be trusted. was it not ch4 that shown a ferreting clip amongst others on ramseys cookery show? an they seem to be okay promoting the river cottage venture, so they would probs be a better option than them clowns at the beeb, but i still dont know if id trust them either Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 the problem is the antis are far more advanced than we are it the dark art of manipulating the media , untill we get media savvy were fcked you only have to look at the so called welfare bill going through in Ireland everything you can think of is listed on there so when push comes to shove and they debate it they we let a bit go by the by as long as digging and lurcher work get BANNED and we all get sold down the river and once its happened there it will be N I and the UK next , look how hard Barrie fought to keep terrierwork legal when the ban came in so now they wind the media up so much you can t walk your dog without getting accused of baiting etc the next thing is the RSPCA getting called before the charity commision but there ready to give up the charity status as long as they get police contracts and power then god help us all the inspectors will be on bonus shemes and come gunning for any terrier lurcher lads = money for old rope , theyl get a goverment grant to cover there costs etc and it will be more backdoor policing , if we get another 5 years at the digging game we will be very lucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted June 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 the problem is the antis are far more advanced than we are it the dark art of manipulating the media , untill we get media savvy were fcked you only have to look at the so called welfare bill going through in Ireland everything you can think of is listed on there so when push comes to shove and they debate it they we let a bit go by the by as long as digging and lurcher work get BANNED and we all get sold down the river and once its happened there it will be N I and the UK next , look how hard Barrie fought to keep terrierwork legal when the ban came in so now they wind the media up so much you can t walk your dog without getting accused of baiting etc the next thing is the RSPCA getting called before the charity commision but there ready to give up the charity status as long as they get police contracts and power then god help us all the inspectors will be on bonus shemes and come gunning for any terrier lurcher lads = money for old rope , theyl get a goverment grant to cover there costs etc and it will be more backdoor policing , if we get another 5 years at the digging game we will be very lucky. dont worry topper mate just keep yeh head down and carry on no one will ever bother you were all invisible honest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 the problem is the antis are far more advanced than we are it the dark art of manipulating the media , untill we get media savvy were fcked you only have to look at the so called welfare bill going through in Ireland everything you can think of is listed on there so when push comes to shove and they debate it they we let a bit go by the by as long as digging and lurcher work get BANNED and we all get sold down the river and once its happened there it will be N I and the UK next , look how hard Barrie fought to keep terrierwork legal when the ban came in so now they wind the media up so much you can t walk your dog without getting accused of baiting etc the next thing is the RSPCA getting called before the charity commision but there ready to give up the charity status as long as they get police contracts and power then god help us all the inspectors will be on bonus shemes and come gunning for any terrier lurcher lads = money for old rope , theyl get a goverment grant to cover there costs etc and it will be more backdoor policing , if we get another 5 years at the digging game we will be very lucky. dont worry topper mate just keep yeh head down and carry on no one will ever bother you were all invisible honest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,598 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) Funny thing is am well all right jack we ll once again agree to disagree , hark for ' ard Who....what Never mind a dictionary an enterpreteur might be better Beats me why some of yous so desperately seek public approval...........if your busy doing your thing now then you obviously dont care what they think .... so why seek approval of people you dont listen to anyway Edited June 9, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted June 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 gnash just because it was under neath your post dont mean it was aimed at you , tell me this though bud and i dont mean this as smart arse or any thing , do you own terriers or lurchers , hunt with fox hounds or shoot , approval no bud you dont seem to get it , are whole way of life are culture is being eroded , hare coursing , foxhunting both banned but foxhunting continues within the law terrier work also survives while the long dog fraternity took the full brunt lads out with lurches treated like they are worse than pedoes stopped on the street by plod for having longdogs people having their houses raided for owning terriers , yeh just keep your head down and carry on yes gnasher i do and can thing is though bud , i used to walk out my back door and do it , and go to altcar and watch the greatest coursing in the world , banned by bigots banned by the whim of a goverment that made promises for retaliation to what happened to the miners , banned by a priminister that abstained on the day of the vote , just so he had a back door to crawl back to in the future , , if we had just ducked and sneaked about there would be no terrier work or hunting within the law they wanted an outright ban , dont want approvel just to be left alone to carry out my birth right to hunt shoot and fish in the country i was born in , , WITHOUT SNEAKING ABOUT ONCE MORE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,598 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) gnash just because it was under neath your post dont mean it was aimed at you , tell me this though bud and i dont mean this as smart arse or any thing , do you own terriers or lurchers , hunt with fox hounds or shoot , approval no bud you dont seem to get it , are whole way of life are culture is being eroded , hare coursing , foxhunting both banned but foxhunting continues within the law terrier work also survives while the long dog fraternity took the full brunt lads out with lurches treated like they are worse than pedoes stopped on the street by plod for having longdogs people having their houses raided for owning terriers , yeh just keep your head down and carry on yes gnasher i do and can thing is though bud , i used to walk out my back door and do it , and go to altcar and watch the greatest coursing in the world , banned by bigots banned by the whim of a goverment that made promises for retaliation to what happened to the miners , banned by a priminister that abstained on the day of the vote , just so he had a back door to crawl back to in the future , , if we had just ducked and sneaked about there would be no terrier work or hunting within the law they wanted an outright ban , dont want approvel just to be left alone to carry out my birth right to hunt shoot and fish in the country i was born in , , WITHOUT SNEAKING ABOUT ONCE MORE Oh i presumed when you said we,ll agree to disagree again that was aimed at me being we was having a conversation......i guess i was wrong the other bit i couldnt understand so guessed at. Nothing smart arse in your question and nothing smart arse in my answer......i do exactly what you do,which is " what my situation allows me to get away with " same as you do or any other man does.......... I couldnt agree more with your sentiments....but what do you want to do about it ? Like i said before you lead the way and i,ll follow ????.......Being " pissed off " about something is not going to bring about change........its exactly the same with all the nationalist stuff.....i used to rant and rave about wogs and pakis,my country being taken over and bla bla bla.........and folk would say to me " well what are you going to do about it ".............and they are right.....what can i do 1 man ?......that dont make me any less pissed off it just means you have to accept the way things are and live your life around it....again like i said before,take it to a vote i,ll vote for it.....do a petition i,ll sign it.......but im not going to live my life all bitter and twisted about something i cant change im going to do " what my situation allows me to get away with "....like everyone else has to.....and doing that i dont need or want approval......................... I say again.........your pissed off,you want change....im with you mate......................................so now then whats the plan ? Edited June 9, 2012 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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