stewie 3,387 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Irish staff is all fake the dog is sum were crossed with PitBull to give extra height and size like dog parents or going further down the line if he did breed them how big roughly TTS do you think the pups would turn out :hmm: Quote Link to post
Adam_Chuck 256 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 That's not a staff btw bud it's a pit no doubt call it what you want but it's a pit no matter where you bought it With all due respect,how could you possibly be so sure a dog is or is not an American Pit Bull Terrier from 1 sideways on photograph ?.......... As regards this Irish Staff stuff......its not a recognised breed of dog and a lot of supposed " Irish Staff " blood came from England..............................calling them " A Little Bit Bigger Staffs " would be more accurate than calling them Irish Staffs.....not quite as catchy name i know but................. To be honest it's quite clear that it's a pit or a pit cross. The height, length of body and head shape are all give always. I'm 100% sure it's not a staff. It wouldn't be better to call them little bit bigger staffs cos there is no such thing either. This is a Staffordshire bull terrier kc reg and bred in Ireland. No different to to a staff anywhere else 1 Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 some of the posts on this thread have me cratching my head Quote Link to post
Adam_Chuck 256 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 some of the posts on this thread have me cratching my head Same here Quote Link to post
gnasher16 30,120 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 some of the posts on this thread have me cratching my head Same here If ive understood many of Stabs posts in the past mate he,s laughing at you not with you ...............the fact you are 100 % sure you can tell a staff from a pit bull by the shape of its head and length of its body tells me a lot about your understanding.........this kc reg staff you posted a picture of,what happens if people breed staffordshire bull terriers but dont breed them within kc guidelines ?......do they suddenly become a different breed ?.........if i bred 10 generations of big size Yorkshire Terriers they wont look like Yorkshire Terriers but in blood they are as pure as the little rat kc ones.................the kennel club in any country is not a breed its merely a set of guidelines....you choose to follow them or ignore them it dont change what a dog essentially is ! Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 i know a women that breeds irish staffs....like said above..its a staff thats been crossed with the apt to be taller and bigger than the standard staffordshire bullterrier...so there not really reconised as there not widely known to many... but thay class them as irish staff as thay were bred in ireland...and the most ive seen are the "blue" colour aswell... ive owned staffs..these irish staffs are alot bigger!!! under the dangours dog act there classed at a pitbull tho...as thay look so alike. if its a staff crossed with a pit then its an american staffordshire terrier not an irish staff as theres no such dog No wonder people get confused. Too many people mis-inform others. A staffy x pit is a cross breed. A mongrel. A dog of pit bull type that would get confiscated in UK. A staffy x pit IS NOT an American Staffordshire terrier. An Irish staffy is a pit or pit cross that people call an "Irish Staffordshire bull" to try and stay within the confines of the law. Gaz 1 Quote Link to post
Adam_Chuck 256 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 some of the posts on this thread have me cratching my head Same here If ive understood many of Stabs posts in the past mate he,s laughing at you not with you ...............the fact you are 100 % sure you can tell a staff from a pit bull by the shape of its head and length of its body tells me a lot about your understanding.........this kc reg staff you posted a picture of,what happens if people breed staffordshire bull terriers but dont breed them within kc guidelines ?......do they suddenly become a different breed ?.........if i bred 10 generations of big size Yorkshire Terriers they wont look like Yorkshire Terriers but in blood they are as pure as the little rat kc ones.................the kennel club in any country is not a breed its merely a set of guidelines....you choose to follow them or ignore them it dont change what a dog essentially is ! He could be laughing at me but i agree im scratching my head. I understand that kennel clubs are just guidelines and it is easy to see dogs of a breed that are no where near the guidelines and i agree they are still in fact pure breeds. But to someone who knows about those breeds it is easy to tell that picture of that dog is not a staff you only have to google pitbull terrier to see the resemblance. My argument on this topic was that there is no such breed as an irish staff and dogs bred in ireland are no different in temperament to their counterparts Quote Link to post
theferreter 311 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 i know a women that breeds irish staffs....like said above..its a staff thats been crossed with the apt to be taller and bigger than the standard staffordshire bullterrier...so there not really reconised as there not widely known to many... but thay class them as irish staff as thay were bred in ireland...and the most ive seen are the "blue" colour aswell... ive owned staffs..these irish staffs are alot bigger!!! under the dangours dog act there classed at a pitbull tho...as thay look so alike. if its a staff crossed with a pit then its an american staffordshire terrier not an irish staff as theres no such dog No wonder people get confused. Too many people mis-inform others. A staffy x pit is a cross breed. A mongrel. A dog of pit bull type that would get confiscated in UK. A staffy x pit IS NOT an American Staffordshire terrier. An Irish staffy is a pit or pit cross that people call an "Irish Staffordshire bull" to try and stay within the confines of the law. Gaz a pit x staff is an american staff end of they were a recognised as a seperate breed in 1936 any they arnt ilegal to keep like pitts ive a staff here that talks with an irish accent does that means it an irish staffs Quote Link to post
INDIAN GIVER 35 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 That's not a staff btw bud it's a pit no doubt call it what you want but it's a pit no matter where you bought it With all due respect,how could you possibly be so sure a dog is or is not an American Pit Bull Terrier from 1 sideways on photograph ?.......... As regards this Irish Staff stuff......its not a recognised breed of dog and a lot of supposed " Irish Staff " blood came from England..............................calling them " A Little Bit Bigger Staffs " would be more accurate than calling them Irish Staffs.....not quite as catchy name i know but................. To be honest it's quite clear that it's a pit or a pit cross. The height, length of body and head shape are all give always. I'm 100% sure it's not a staff. It wouldn't be better to call them little bit bigger staffs cos there is no such thing either. This is a Staffordshire bull terrier kc reg and bred in Ireland. No different to to a staff anywhere else That's not a staff btw bud it's a pit no doubt call it what you want but it's a pit no matter where you bought it With all due respect,how could you possibly be so sure a dog is or is not an American Pit Bull Terrier from 1 sideways on photograph ?.......... As regards this Irish Staff stuff......its not a recognised breed of dog and a lot of supposed " Irish Staff " blood came from England..............................calling them " A Little Bit Bigger Staffs " would be more accurate than calling them Irish Staffs.....not quite as catchy name i know but................. To be honest it's quite clear that it's a pit or a pit cross. The height, length of body and head shape are all give always. I'm 100% sure it's not a staff. It wouldn't be better to call them little bit bigger staffs cos there is no such thing either. This is a Staffordshire bull terrier kc reg and bred in Ireland. No different to to a staff anywhere else any other pics adam dont think that pic does the dog justice Quote Link to post
Guest thebigdog Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 all info you need on "irish staffs" here http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/232936-shaun-barker-staffordshire-bull-terriers/ Quote Link to post
Tuzo 251 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 some of the posts on this thread have me scratching my head They have me pissing myself laughing................ Quote Link to post
csteed 40 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) My staff, hes been called an irish staff before, all i know is hes called the Tank lol Edited June 6, 2012 by csteed Quote Link to post
Adam_Chuck 256 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 That's not a staff btw bud it's a pit no doubt call it what you want but it's a pit no matter where you bought it With all due respect,how could you possibly be so sure a dog is or is not an American Pit Bull Terrier from 1 sideways on photograph ?.......... As regards this Irish Staff stuff......its not a recognised breed of dog and a lot of supposed " Irish Staff " blood came from England..............................calling them " A Little Bit Bigger Staffs " would be more accurate than calling them Irish Staffs.....not quite as catchy name i know but................. To be honest it's quite clear that it's a pit or a pit cross. The height, length of body and head shape are all give always. I'm 100% sure it's not a staff. It wouldn't be better to call them little bit bigger staffs cos there is no such thing either. This is a Staffordshire bull terrier kc reg and bred in Ireland. No different to to a staff anywhere else That's not a staff btw bud it's a pit no doubt call it what you want but it's a pit no matter where you bought it With all due respect,how could you possibly be so sure a dog is or is not an American Pit Bull Terrier from 1 sideways on photograph ?.......... As regards this Irish Staff stuff......its not a recognised breed of dog and a lot of supposed " Irish Staff " blood came from England..............................calling them " A Little Bit Bigger Staffs " would be more accurate than calling them Irish Staffs.....not quite as catchy name i know but................. To be honest it's quite clear that it's a pit or a pit cross. The height, length of body and head shape are all give always. I'm 100% sure it's not a staff. It wouldn't be better to call them little bit bigger staffs cos there is no such thing either. This is a Staffordshire bull terrier kc reg and bred in Ireland. No different to to a staff anywhere else any other pics adam dont think that pic does the dog justice Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 My staff, hes been called an irish staff before, all i know is hes called the Tank lol Can we just call them all bull breeds? Lol. Cuz no way is that a staff! Haha. Quote Link to post
gnasher16 30,120 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 But to someone who knows about those breeds it is easy to tell that picture of that dog is not a staff you only have to google pitbull terrier to see the resemblance. Well thats it then........google is now evidence ....makes you wonder why the rspca havent used google all these years of dangerous dogs act court cases !!..... You carry on using google as your guide mate....i,ll carry on using a lifetime with and around the breeds as my guide.........im keeping out of this now i think it will be far more entertaining from the outside watching in 1 Quote Link to post
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