Countryman's Weekly

[young man 225]

I stopped buying this years ago but when I popped into a village shop and there it sat on the shelf I thault I'll have a look.

 

Quite frankly I'd rather have given my £2.10 to an appeal to help more Pakistanis and other immigrants to settle in this country, a paper that is best used on the bottom of a budgies cage.

 

1st there's penny Taylor (I'm sure you know who she is on here) stating a good fox Lurcher should "grab a fleeing fox by the brush, let go again the moment the fox retaliate and take the throat hold needed to end matters quickly." and in a blatant bitchy swipe at the more serious fox man states "novice hunters are of the opinion that a big strong dog is needed in order to kill foxs on a REGULAR basis".

 

2nd there's "corvid" who does a whole article on breeding of coursing lurchers with out 1 mention of the king of the coursing field the saluki Lurcher. He then waffles a passage from a Plummer book that the ideal dog for hares is 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie, yes indeed ideal if you like a dog that will get educated and start throwing the towel in by its second season, once it knows it's no match for a strong winter fen hare on its 3rd run.

And that a 1st cross deerhound is "simply not fast enough"?. I own two that are faster than many a proven match dog in a strait line but lack in other departments when it comes to purely running day time hares.

 

These people are obviously well under qualified to comment by there articles and each no doubt have there own agenda against certain lurchers and there owners.

 

I always try not to get involved in telling people about subjects I am not experienced in myself. These individuals evidently don't take the same approach.

 

FOOLS.

I stopped buying this years ago but when I popped into a village shop and there it sat on the shelf I thault I'll have a look.

 

Quite frankly I'd rather have given my £2.10 to an appeal to help more Pakistanis and other immigrants to settle in this country, a paper that is best used on the bottom of a budgies cage.

 

1st there's penny Taylor (I'm sure you know who she is on here) stating a good fox Lurcher should "grab a fleeing fox by the brush, let go again the moment the fox retaliate and take the throat hold needed to end matters quickly." and in a blatant bitchy swipe at the more serious fox man states "novice hunters are of the opinion that a big strong dog is needed in order to kill foxs on a REGULAR basis".

 

2nd there's "corvid" who does a whole article on breeding of coursing lurchers with out 1 mention of the king of the coursing field the saluki Lurcher. He then waffles a passage from a Plummer book that the ideal dog for hares is 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie, yes indeed ideal if you like a dog that will get educated and start throwing the towel in by its second season, once it knows it's no match for a strong winter fen hare on its 3rd run.

And that a 1st cross deerhound is "simply not fast enough"?. I own two that are faster than many a proven match dog in a strait line but lack in other departments when it comes to purely running day time hares.

 

These people are obviously well under qualified to comment by there articles and each no doubt have there own agenda against certain lurchers and there owners.

 

I always try not to get involved in telling people about subjects I am not experienced in myself. These individuals evidently don't take the same approach.

 

FOOLS.

collie x are the best

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

 

what about others that knew plummer was a con and said nothing and only basked in the glory of being in his books no names mentioned like but its funny how they didnt come to the fore all them years ago to say plummer was really fiction writer lol.....

personally i enjoyed most of plummers books omega probably been the funniest he was a good writer that captured the imagination which in my eyes can only be a good thing as it got me more an more into hunting an i wouldnt have wanted my life any other way even if i could have it all over again i doubt i`d have changed much........wouldnt have minded a few more slappers tho..... all the best mate

 

 

Back in the day,..there was no chance of having your say 'in print',..there was no Internet forums,and no chance of righting wrongs,...Them as were in fashion, had total control, of how things went down, and it took some time to get a voice, and by then, it was far too late,..the dye had been cast...

But,..hopefully today, we have freedom of speech and can express our feelings and opinions...

 

All the best, CHALKWARREN...

 

Chalkie resoect you and your post but this whole thread actually proves freedom of speech does not take place on THL as the comments expressed made about Penny would have not been removed .

 

I understand why and agree with them being removed but for that reason it clear freedom of speech does not take place.

 

ATB Cookie

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Fair enough, but the mere fact that you guys are having your say on here,..is streets ahead of what me (and a few other, amatuer wordsmiths) had to contend with, in the 's into the early 90's....

 

You should be free, to ask your questions...and folk are free,... to choose, to ignore them..

[morton 5,368]

On topic,i rarely buy the cmw now,the main articles that held my interest where the lurcher and terrier section.The standard of these articles,on the whole now,is of a standard i don,t wish to pay to read.The only articles that,on the whole,i could relate to are written by P.T.Sorry Penny,im not forking out my £2 just to read your input{just pm me your article,cheers].It would be easier to write some of the articles slowly,because a lot of readers don,t think very fast,i read the article on fox,s and found little to disagree with,i don,t know whether thats because i understood the gist of it,relating it to some of my own experiences,or more likely because i know nowt also.

[BLACKWATER... 157]

funny old times the eighties for hunting and writers in general , met plummer strange character , but he had deciples glad and kennel hands , i was more of a harold wyman type of character , lucky to have been brought up with afew good dog men and hunters as kids

Edited May 28, 2012 by BLACKWATER...

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

I think WHIN should do a article in CW that would be funny with his spelling

[Millet 4,497]

For fook's sake why is this still running.. i only read a bit and instanly realised it want's deleting..Penny goes out of her way to help people but yet you get thread's like this slating her.. i dont agree with what she has said in the magazine but by god i wont slag her off on here for it..

 

GET A GRIP MOD'S AND PULL THE PLUG..

[ci5 9]

creatine

[Guest Moscow]

Let go Millet your not a mod anymore :laugh:

[Millet 4,497]

I know.. .. and ian won't let me be because im too much trouble..

[BLACKWATER... 157]

cookie no point, could maybe do several on the states etc or rabbit hunting or pre ban hunting but we lost the freedom of speach with the ban mate , but done plenty to right about and well spell check is a great thing , pennys a good sorts

[DogMagic 461]

I know.. .. and ian won't let me be because im too much trouble..

 

You millet? Trouble? I cant believe that! Lol!

[123456 146]

For fook's sake why is this still running.. i only read a bit and instanly realised it want's deleting..Penny goes out of her way to help people but yet you get thread's like this slating her.. i dont agree with what she has said in the magazine but by god i wont slag her off on here for it..

 

GET A GRIP MOD'S AND PULL THE PLUG..

 

Millet why aren't you a mod anymore?

 

There's mods on here and they've cleaned it up so it doesn't need deleting!

[paulus 26]

if we can do 10 pages arguing with each other what chance do we have ok some people disbelieve whats written but then again ive seen strange shit that most people who hadnt witnessed wouldnt believe but thats just dogs the climate of todays lurcher work leeds to suspicion due to the constraints placed on it by law feck me that made my head hurt

[RossM 8,114]

Know a lad who has done 2 or 3 ferreting articles and he says that they edited some out before going to press, also I had a bitch 23.5 tts really fine built bitch who was plentiful fast would nip fox to stand it up and wait for the opportunity to get hold of the throat, she was in no way a foxing bitch and didn't like the sharp end and tbh I only slipped her on a handful of foxes all dealt with in this manner, IMO there is a fine line between dispatching quarry and fighting the quarry and this bitch bordered that so I stopped slipping her on them and she was a demon on edible game.