Self entering dogs...

[Bosun11 537]

Just thought I'd throw a subject out there, that i've been mulling over for a bit.

 

It's been a while since i've owned a digging dog, though I still get out from time to time and in these times, where we have to work our dogs with the utmost care and control does anyone have or had a youngster that has self entered?

 

Just for the record, i'm talking about dogs that have dropped in (or flew in!), through total instinct, when you wern't expecting it and continued to graft fror the rest of their days?

 

I'd also like to know if anyone has had a dog that wasn't bought or used as an earth dog and decided to go sub-terrainian well into its hunting career?

 

Thing is, in the years I kept terriers, I've never had one but a mate who keeps dogs from the same line has had two.

 

Just a post to keep us occupied in the heat.

[marshman 7,757]

I had a dog that self entered in a earth that I didn't know was there. He was 6 months old at the time , lucky for him old red decided to have it on his toes! Sadly he didn't make three years old. As someone else on here said " there's old dogs and there bold dogs, but there's rarely old bold dogs!!

[happydigger 13]

a baught a dog off a lad on here he had sister to the dog i had that was off working lines,a neighbour had the brother as a pet 4 year old he was but was becoming a menace so mi pal got the dog took it out and straight to ground until job done needless to say took a couple to calm him,and dogs never looked bk

[darren67 9]

iv had two dogs that have self entered, both dogs, the first one i bought of a bloke called monty farish sadly he only made 2 1/2 when he met his match he had no reverse and the dog i have know self entered at a 12 month , i walked him on to a three holer of the lead and of he went and bolted a dog fox he done this twice before he got one bottled up a very promising dog to date

[Bosun11 537]

Thanks for the replys lads. :thumbs:

 

Darren, Monty Fairish... Didn't his dogs carry the blood of those so called Scarteen terriers? His dogs were hard as nails i'm lead to belive. He's someone i've heard an read about but not very much. Were both dogs out of the same stuff?

[paulus 26]

steve109 the taxidermist had a dog pup off varley out of a bitch called ranter 1980`s, that self entered and went on to be one of the best he said he owned, never had one do it myself but then again ive only ever owned a handfull of terriers.

[liamdelaney 2,587]

Two litter mates at six months,the dog disappeared on a dig and was found beside his mother at three feet ,he was eight months.On a ramble at eight o clock in the evening he disappeared by himself with no collar,he was located,rang the misses for the spade and dug him out at about two feet up close and getting personal with his quarry and a bit marked up.His sister was tied up because she heard the racket and wanted to follow him.Needless to say he does not have as much freedom anymore.

[johnrussell84 2,832]

Was out start of the season with me Russell's one had jus turned a year just bushing an couldn't hear him no more flicked the box on he was 56 metres away to dog an vixen hi hopes this season

[tillearthdouspart 100]

Shouldn't self entering be the norm for a working terrier , where I come from anyway. I expect mine to, had some needing little bit encouragment. And some won't go at all. But surely it's instinct it's in their blood. Correct me if I'm wrong or been one minded. I'm sure I going to be.

[paulus 26]

Shouldn't self entering be the norm for a working terrier , where I come from anyway. I expect mine to, had some needing little bit encouragment. And some won't go at all. But surely it's instinct it's in their blood. Correct me if I'm wrong or been one minded. I'm sure I going to be.

hes talking about youngsters self entering before they were thought to be ready

[tillearthdouspart 100]

Say you take your terrier out first time roughly year old take him to an earth he should go , if the stuff is their . I no this ain't always the case but more often than not this is what should happen with good stock worker to worker. I suppose it what you set your standards out to be. We all look for different things in a terrier. I don't think their should be much pissing around with a terrier if his going to work you should be able to spot it quickly enough.

[coverdogs 888]

hi folks i have a few terriers that have entered very early around 8 months or so but i have found these dogs to be a little on the hard side getting marked up and having to be retired young. i find the slow starter to be a steadyer dog with a longer working life .it can be a case like the young bull and the old bullon the hillside the young bull says to the old bull lets run down and serve a couple off these cows and the old bull says lets walk down and servs them all.

[darren67 9]

Thanks for the replys lads. :thumbs:

 

Darren, Monty Fairish... Didn't his dogs carry the blood of those so called Scarteen terriers? His dogs were hard as nails i'm lead to belive. He's someone i've heard an read about but not very much. Were both dogs out of the same stuff?

didn t have a clue what was in them it i needed another terrier and they were avable at the time ican remember my old man gan daft cause when i when for a pup there was only bitchs 30 bar and i said what that there he said its the dog im keeping anyway bit of a deal i bought this dog pup for 50pound chuffed to bits when i tellt the old man i payed 50 bar it went of the head saying iv never payed a penny for a dog in my life crack, the good old days

[tinytiger 840]

Thanks for the replys lads. :thumbs:

 

Darren, Monty Fairish... Didn't his dogs carry the blood of those so called Scarteen terriers? His dogs were hard as nails i'm lead to belive. He's someone i've heard an read about but not very much. Were both dogs out of the same stuff?

I got my first ever terrier from a man who used to be scarteens terrierman once,she was very slow to start but her son self entered and killed at 5 1/2 months.I dont have any of that breeding now-she threw allsorts in her litters-that son tiger was like a small glen of imaal ,one of his littermates was like a jagd terrier,more of her pups were like parsons.

[Mosby 355]

I'm with tilearthdouspart. I have been trying to figure out what people are bragging about with "self-entering". Maybe I just don't understand it but if your working dogs single then aren't they one hundred percent self entered? This last season on two occasions I underestimated a couple pups. My dog located inside a hollow tree and while I worked that out my buddies dog had another coon in the ground a few hundred yards down the river. His dog drew his coon and mine couldn't reach his unless I cut the tree down. So I pulled my dog out and ran to my buddy. I held my adult dog but left the little bitch I had about 9 months at the time loose. I thought she'd run straight to where the noise was happening and my friend could grab her. As the coon when drawn rolled down the hill toward the river about 20 yards. Not so, the little bitch followed her nose right back down that hole. I got to my friend and wondered where the hell that bitch pup went. I ran back up the hill and heard the coon squalling under the ground. She was really going to town. Luckily the dig was pretty much finished for me because of my buddy trenching from the entrance to help the older dog. I reached and and the coon had reversed positions with the pup. I got a hold on it but couldn't keep grip and it pushed the bitch back up the pipe (coon was about 18 pounds the bitch was 9). The pup kept her hold but she was like a rag to that coon. I finally got a hold on her and pulled her out. I threw my older dog down and he drew it out. So I'd say she was self entered ha ha but that's how it should go. I gave her to my friend a week later and he lost her last month after only a few times working her. It's really a bummer when you lose one like that but hey that's life. I had all her syblings and none of them have what she had. We'll give them this summer to turn on but it looks like they're gonna be a waste of time.