3175darren 1,100 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 The pack situation is all to cock nowadays,most hunting men train and monitor and lead there dogs,give them somewhere natural to use there skills,they intergrate them better into familly life,The dog generally knows its place,and most would not cross that boundry,on the other hand a hunting familly will notice them habits creeping in, and deal with them in a proper manner,Some of these townies have no idea, that dog probably spent its puppy hood running a mock in the home,sleeping where it wanted and in its mind became the alpha male in the home,people need to stop making toys out of serious animals bred for a specific reason,I feel sorry for the Dog its been let down now it will be put down, and some poor kid will be scarred for life,maybee never going near another dog again, he may never enjoy the true companionship/freindship a dog can offer,because of some idiot, hope he's ok 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slip hound 32 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 about two year ago i was driven down the road an a staff bolted across the car an attacked another little shitzu of some sort a old man was walking.luckly i was stopped in traffic so i hoped out of the car while the staff was pulling the head off the dog.the old man was terrified he had the lead in the air so the dog was being chocked and et at the same time.just a reaction got out an scruffed the the staff the aul lad was so happy some one actualy stopped to help him out.scruffed the dog and for the life of me couldn break the fuckers grip either chokeing the c**t so while this was going on a mate of mine an member from this site came over as well and we got a screw driver out of his car an pried the dog off i say people in traffic thought we wer mental pacients got the staff off any way an put the shit zu up on a green power box the old guy was shaken out thanked us.we waited til he got lift home.i was on me lunch break from work so had to bolt to work.but the staff i believe was being blooded to be fight dog they wer to lads across the street that looked shady to say the least dressed in the chav atire........and looking like they new f**k all stupid f*****g b*****ds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 its all very well saying they should of done this and that but how many dogs are brought up with kids and out of the blue something unpridictable happens. any dog any time can attack , even if its been brought up with children or other dogs , i wont have bull breeds because i feel there a little unpridictable at times , but thats just my opionion. seen a bull grey sleep with kids and other dogs and bang out walking one day he turned on another lurcher and if that dog hadnt of gone for another bite the lurcher would of been dead, luckily the other dog got away and was alot faster than the bull . it was an unpredictable attack, for unknown reasons. yes the dog was working and they need to be kennelled and then they need to be socialised aswell its not allways easy to get a happy medium. theres a reason for attacks to happen more in the bull blood and it aint a coincidence. No it's because the majority of their owners are f*****g morons that shouldnt be allowed a hamster let alone a bull breed. Check the facts on what dogs bite/attack the most, it's collies/labs/terriers. Just they don't make good news so you don't hear of it, my mate George of hear his nephews testicles were torn open by a Labrador in a unprovoked attack last week. Should we tar them with the same brush ? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoChara 1,632 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 In my opinion, its not mostly bull breeds.. But it seems to me that the bull breed attacks only make the paper/news. I have two large lurchers both male and never once have they attacked each other or even took one bite against each other, they sleep, eat, work and play with together, and never ever has either one of them took badness against anyone, one of them only barks if a stranger walks into the garden, we also had two poms both bitches and they done nothing but bite each other and other dogs and people. My point is most people see through a wee ball of fluff or cute looking dog nipping or biting someone.. but when a "scary" looking dog does it, its a big no no. No dog should do it, and should be controlled. But its only the bull breeds that are being slandered, because most people dont see it worth reporting it if a "cute" breed did the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 In my opinion, its not mostly bull breeds.. But it seems to me that the bull breed attacks only make the paper/news. I have two large lurchers both male and never once have they attacked each other or even took one bite against each other, they sleep, eat, work and play with together, and never ever has either one of them took badness against anyone, one of them only barks if a stranger walks into the garden, we also had two poms both bitches and they done nothing but bite each other and other dogs and people. My point is most people see through a wee ball of fluff or cute looking dog nipping or biting someone.. but when a "scary" looking dog does it, its a big no no. No dog should do it, and should be controlled. But its only the bull breeds that are being slandered, because most people dont see it worth reporting it if a "cute" breed did the same. [/quote its all very well saying they should of done this and that but how many dogs are brought up with kids and out of the blue something unpridictable happens. any dog any time can attack , even if its been brought up with children or other dogs , i wont have bull breeds because i feel there a little unpridictable at times , but thats just my opionion. seen a bull grey sleep with kids and other dogs and bang out walking one day he turned on another lurcher and if that dog hadnt of gone for another bite the lurcher would of been dead, luckily the other dog got away and was alot faster than the bull . it was an unpredictable attack, for unknown reasons. yes the dog was working and they need to be kennelled and then they need to be socialised aswell its not allways easy to get a happy medium. theres a reason for attacks to happen more in the bull blood and it aint a coincidence. No it's because the majority of their owners are f*****g morons that shouldnt be allowed a hamster let alone a bull breed. Check the facts on what dogs bite/attack the most, it's collies/labs/terriers. Just they don't make good news so you don't hear of it, my mate George of hear his nephews testicles were torn open by a Labrador in a unprovoked attack last week. Should we tar them with the same brush ? you obviously know more than me then. if the statistics say collies , labs, and terriers attack more than bull breeds , i stand corrected. i was wrong . one thing i know is right is pit bull is illegal . and why would this be if the statistics says they dont attack as much as other dogs? another thing is those dogs attack more than bulls i would sooner have my leg in the jaw of a collie , lab or a terrier than i would any of the bull breeds. dont you think that bulls are brought more to the media because they do alot more damage with there jaw power? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 its all very well saying they should of done this and that but how many dogs are brought up with kids and out of the blue something unpridictable happens. any dog any time can attack , even if its been brought up with children or other dogs , i wont have bull breeds because i feel there a little unpridictable at times , but thats just my opionion. seen a bull grey sleep with kids and other dogs and bang out walking one day he turned on another lurcher and if that dog hadnt of gone for another bite the lurcher would of been dead, luckily the other dog got away and was alot faster than the bull . it was an unpredictable attack, for unknown reasons. yes the dog was working and they need to be kennelled and then they need to be socialised aswell its not allways easy to get a happy medium. theres a reason for attacks to happen more in the bull blood and it aint a coincidence. No it's because the majority of their owners are f*****g morons that shouldnt be allowed a hamster let alone a bull breed. Check the facts on what dogs bite/attack the most, it's collies/labs/terriers. Just they don't make good news so you don't hear of it, my mate George of hear his nephews testicles were torn open by a Labrador in a unprovoked attack last week. Should we tar them with the same brush ? I was bitten by a collie about 10 years ago , totally unprovoked all i did was walk past it & the thing lunged at me & took a nice bite to the hand , the dog later went on to bite a child some months later & was pts The sad thing is animals like bull breeds make news headlines for the wrong reasons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 My next door neighbour has a Bichon Frise that's a feisty little fcuker, it lunges at people and other dogs on walks and the fella just laughs it off. It pisses my dog off bigstyle, hopefully one day he snaps and rips it's heed off. The fcuking things called Cuddles too, probably the root of the aggression... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 In my opinion, its not mostly bull breeds.. But it seems to me that the bull breed attacks only make the paper/news. I have two large lurchers both male and never once have they attacked each other or even took one bite against each other, they sleep, eat, work and play with together, and never ever has either one of them took badness against anyone, one of them only barks if a stranger walks into the garden, we also had two poms both bitches and they done nothing but bite each other and other dogs and people. My point is most people see through a wee ball of fluff or cute looking dog nipping or biting someone.. but when a "scary" looking dog does it, its a big no no. No dog should do it, and should be controlled. But its only the bull breeds that are being slandered, because most people dont see it worth reporting it if a "cute" breed did the same. [/quote its all very well saying they should of done this and that but how many dogs are brought up with kids and out of the blue something unpridictable happens. any dog any time can attack , even if its been brought up with children or other dogs , i wont have bull breeds because i feel there a little unpridictable at times , but thats just my opionion. seen a bull grey sleep with kids and other dogs and bang out walking one day he turned on another lurcher and if that dog hadnt of gone for another bite the lurcher would of been dead, luckily the other dog got away and was alot faster than the bull . it was an unpredictable attack, for unknown reasons. yes the dog was working and they need to be kennelled and then they need to be socialised aswell its not allways easy to get a happy medium. theres a reason for attacks to happen more in the bull blood and it aint a coincidence. No it's because the majority of their owners are f*****g morons that shouldnt be allowed a hamster let alone a bull breed. Check the facts on what dogs bite/attack the most, it's collies/labs/terriers. Just they don't make good news so you don't hear of it, my mate George of hear his nephews testicles were torn open by a Labrador in a unprovoked attack last week. Should we tar them with the same brush ? you obviously know more than me then. if the statistics say collies , labs, and terriers attack more than bull breeds , i stand corrected. i was wrong . one thing i know is right is pit bull is illegal . and why would this be if the statistics says they dont attack as much as other dogs? another thing is those dogs attack more than bulls i would sooner have my leg in the jaw of a collie , lab or a terrier than i would any of the bull breeds. dont you think that bulls are brought more to the media because they do alot more damage with there jaw power? No there are plenty of other breeds with serious jaw power, a male lab will have a good bite on him as will a gsd, a doberman, all mastiffs etc It's down to a big portion of the type of people that bull breeds appeal to being morons and not controlling their dogs or leaving dogs that have previously shown aggression to people alone I in close proximity to children. If you read into every so called "Devil Dog" attack in the daily newspapers that have to sensationalise everything to sell their papers there is always previous signs or events before any major attack. I think people like you ( no offence ) are a major cause in keeping up this hatred/fear of bullbreeds by repeating stuff like what you first posted without really knowing about the breeds firsthand or knowing about why the said dogs have bitten etc And as for pitbulls, well I can't name many other breeda where man aggression is less tolerated ? The reason they are banned is after a knee jerk reaction from our amazingly awful government after a few high profile dog attacks from "known" aggressive dogs with previous history with moronic owners who never done the right thing and dealt with their dogs properly. Also a few so called dog men that I'd call peddlers selling game bred dogs to kids for £££ are to blame. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 In my opinion, its not mostly bull breeds.. But it seems to me that the bull breed attacks only make the paper/news. I have two large lurchers both male and never once have they attacked each other or even took one bite against each other, they sleep, eat, work and play with together, and never ever has either one of them took badness against anyone, one of them only barks if a stranger walks into the garden, we also had two poms both bitches and they done nothing but bite each other and other dogs and people. My point is most people see through a wee ball of fluff or cute looking dog nipping or biting someone.. but when a "scary" looking dog does it, its a big no no. No dog should do it, and should be controlled. But its only the bull breeds that are being slandered, because most people dont see it worth reporting it if a "cute" breed did the same. [/quote its all very well saying they should of done this and that but how many dogs are brought up with kids and out of the blue something unpridictable happens. any dog any time can attack , even if its been brought up with children or other dogs , i wont have bull breeds because i feel there a little unpridictable at times , but thats just my opionion. seen a bull grey sleep with kids and other dogs and bang out walking one day he turned on another lurcher and if that dog hadnt of gone for another bite the lurcher would of been dead, luckily the other dog got away and was alot faster than the bull . it was an unpredictable attack, for unknown reasons. yes the dog was working and they need to be kennelled and then they need to be socialised aswell its not allways easy to get a happy medium. theres a reason for attacks to happen more in the bull blood and it aint a coincidence. No it's because the majority of their owners are f*****g morons that shouldnt be allowed a hamster let alone a bull breed. Check the facts on what dogs bite/attack the most, it's collies/labs/terriers. Just they don't make good news so you don't hear of it, my mate George of hear his nephews testicles were torn open by a Labrador in a unprovoked attack last week. Should we tar them with the same brush ? you obviously know more than me then. if the statistics say collies , labs, and terriers attack more than bull breeds , i stand corrected. i was wrong . one thing i know is right is pit bull is illegal . and why would this be if the statistics says they dont attack as much as other dogs? another thing is those dogs attack more than bulls i would sooner have my leg in the jaw of a collie , lab or a terrier than i would any of the bull breeds. dont you think that bulls are brought more to the media because they do alot more damage with there jaw power? No there are plenty of other breeds with serious jaw power, a male lab will have a good bite on him as will a gsd, a doberman, all mastiffs etc It's down to a big portion of the type of people that bull breeds appeal to being morons and not controlling their dogs or leaving dogs that have previously shown aggression to people alone I in close proximity to children. If you read into every so called "Devil Dog" attack in the daily newspapers that have to sensationalise everything to sell their papers there is always previous signs or events before any major attack. I think people like you ( no offence ) are a major cause in keeping up this hatred/fear of bullbreeds by repeating stuff like what you first posted without really knowing about the breeds firsthand or knowing about why the said dogs have bitten etc And as for pitbulls, well I can't name many other breeda where man aggression is less tolerated ? The reason they are banned is after a knee jerk reaction from our amazingly awful government after a few high profile dog attacks from "known" aggressive dogs with previous history with moronic owners who never done the right thing and dealt with their dogs properly. Also a few so called dog men that I'd call peddlers selling game bred dogs to kids for £££ are to blame. i havent a hatred of bulls i wont have them because i have kids and may be im over cautious , i have worked them and ive seen there gameness , and there jaw power, does there gameness effect there aggression? i for one think it does, maybe its people like you who trust this breed with your kids , who have accidents . i dont take risks so i cant have no accidents. say what you like i have a right to my opionion, and for me to be cautious you cant say im doing the breed no favours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 my local paper the liverpool echo every time there is a dog attack shows a snarling pitbull on the front page headlines girls face rip open but when you read the story its a shihtuz whippet99 i have kids myself and my kids have been bought up with english bull terriers as i was and my kids respect dogs and know not to stroke a strange dog until the owner says its ok i have had no accidents i dont take risks if were having a childrens birthday party the dogs are kenneled common sences wouldent you say your posts on this topic show what the media can do to people heads you also say i dont take risks so i cant have no accidents i take it you own a whippet whippets have teeth as well just because you dont own a bull doesent mean your safe john 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BEARINATOR 2,871 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 your posts on this topic show what the media can do to people heads you also say i dont take risks so i cant have no accidents i take it you own a whippet whippets have teeth as well just because you dont own a bull doesent mean your safe john Spot on John , Whippet99 I regularly talk to americans with there apbts and they all say that a good game pitt should never bite a human . I have 2 staffs and they are kenneled up but I also give them time in the house during the day even around my 6 week old son. Man biters are only good for putting to sleep and the same goes for their idiotic owners Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gitano 17 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Anybody interested in bull breeds (and all those staunchly against them) should read this book if you haven't already done so http://www.pitbullproject.ca/placebo.pdf Might find out few things that you hadn't previously known and only takes seconds to download the complete thing . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Exactly, any dog is a potential danger, I'd never trust any dog 100% with any child as that's just common sense and anyone that says they trust their dog never mind how sound it is 100% is a moron. Gameness isn't being able to show aggression, it's the willingness to fight to the death against an equal or better opponent without so much as a thought of backing down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Also what I find funny is you can see how much the media has swayed the publics opinion on bullbreeds by the terrified looks you get or the crossing off the roads when all your doing is taking your extremely friendly happy dog for a stroll. The older generation who never had the papers talking trash about them are the ones who will smile an make a fuss of your dog as you pass them and they will come and cross the road to say what a beautiful powerful looking dog you have without any false fears that the media has put into their heads. The media is a powerful thing as has been seen plenty of times before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 i have read and taken in your opionions and i think you lads are right , its the publicity and media who have made me cautious for no reason . as working dogs they are spot on for certain jobs , and i deffinately agree its all to do with its owner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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