Bryan 1,362 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Quote Trev ", I was present hen he let a fox past him, which I would not have believed was I not present because of the size of the dog. He must have let it past due to his big size the fox would not have been able to get passed." Trev, there's no way a fox passed Freckles in a tunnel. The line would of had to swing around and back onto itself for a fox to get out ahead of him. That dog was as big as a springer spaniel, he couldn't let an animal get passed him if he wanted to. You guys read it wrong on the day. He dug a lot before and after ye had him. Bolting a fox was no trial of that dog and if ye had a genuine interest in keeping the old dog ye would have dug to him. The other 2 got multiple chances he got one? I know you guys jumped to the wrong conclusion with him. It was yer mistake and ye haven't recognised it yet. It mightn't seem important to yous, but reading a dig wrong and faulting a dog can be pretty serious for the dog. Quote Link to post
elisderyn 496 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 i heard glyn sold up and packed the terriers in a couple of years ago Quote Link to post
Trev 4 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Bryan how do you know how many times we tried him?? If it pleases you to believe that I made a mistake on the dog that's fine with me. It was many years ago and is irrelevant to me but I know what I seen. People are getting on here saying this that and the other, they weren't there I was and I know what I seen with all the dogs in question. I don't disbelieve that freckles was a good dog at one time but through a network of things when I got him he wasn't wether you or anyone else values my opinion on what I saw is irrelevant to me. I done what was right for the dogs, I returned freckles to DD, I put down jack because it was the best thing for the dog, I didn't look for a refund and chilli was nothing to do with me, if she was she wouldn't of made it home the second time she quit. Quote Link to post
Aeron 43 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Quote Trev ", I was present hen he let a fox past him, which I would not have believed was I not present because of the size of the dog. He must have let it past due to his big size the fox would not have been able to get passed." Trev, there's no way a fox passed Freckles in a tunnel. The line would of had to swing around and back onto itself for a fox to get out ahead of him. That dog was as big as a springer spaniel, he couldn't let an animal get passed him if he wanted to. You guys read it wrong on the day. He dug a lot before and after ye had him. Bolting a fox was no trial of that dog and if ye had a genuine interest in keeping the old dog ye would have dug to him. The other 2 got multiple chances he got one? I know you guys jumped to the wrong conclusion with him. It was yer mistake and ye haven't recognised it yet. It mightn't seem important to yous, but reading a dig wrong and faulting a dog can be pretty serious for the dog. Butty , i do not know how much dig you done or do ! BUT , there is huge tunnels in some of the large sprawling spots i do regular , where a lurcher can fit into. Yes, i have seen lurchers go to ground , . 1 Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Butty , i do not know how much dig you done or do ! BUT , there is huge tunnels in some of the large sprawling spots i do regular , where a lurcher can fit into. Yes, i have seen lurchers go to ground , . I've dug out foxhounds more than once. Quote Link to post
Aeron 43 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Quote Trev ", I was present hen he let a fox past him, which I would not have believed was I not present because of the size of the dog. He must have let it past due to his big size the fox would not have been able to get passed." Trev, there's no way a fox passed Freckles in a tunnel. The line would of had to swing around and back onto itself for a fox to get out ahead of him. That dog was as big as a springer spaniel, he couldn't let an animal get passed him if he wanted to. You guys read it wrong on the day. He dug a lot before and after ye had him. Bolting a fox was no trial of that dog and if ye had a genuine interest in keeping the old dog ye would have dug to him. The other 2 got multiple chances he got one? I know you guys jumped to the wrong conclusion with him. It was yer mistake and ye haven't recognised it yet. It mightn't seem important to yous, but reading a dig wrong and faulting a dog can be pretty serious for the dog. Butty , i do not know how much dig you done or do ! BUT , there is huge tunnels in some of the large sprawling spots i do regular , where a lurcher can fit into. Yes, i have seen lurchers go to ground , . I've dug out foxhounds more than once. Well , then the terrier in question could/may have let a fox past him ! Surely he cannot be no-where near as big as a foxhound ! Quote Link to post
j1985 1,983 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Quote Trev ", I was present hen he let a fox past him, which I would not have believed was I not present because of the size of the dog. He must have let it past due to his big size the fox would not have been able to get passed." Trev, there's no way a fox passed Freckles in a tunnel. The line would of had to swing around and back onto itself for a fox to get out ahead of him. That dog was as big as a springer spaniel, he couldn't let an animal get passed him if he wanted to. You guys read it wrong on the day. He dug a lot before and after ye had him. Bolting a fox was no trial of that dog and if ye had a genuine interest in keeping the old dog ye would have dug to him. The other 2 got multiple chances he got one? I know you guys jumped to the wrong conclusion with him. It was yer mistake and ye haven't recognised it yet. It mightn't seem important to yous, but reading a dig wrong and faulting a dog can be pretty serious for the dog. Butty , i do not know how much dig you done or do !BUT , there is huge tunnels in some of the large sprawling spots i do regular , where a lurcher can fit into. Yes, i have seen lurchers go to ground , . I see a lump of a bull grey go to ground and get well and truly stuck, his nose was touching his bum hole he was bent double!!!! Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Quote Trev ", I was present hen he let a fox past him, which I would not have believed was I not present because of the size of the dog. He must have let it past due to his big size the fox would not have been able to get passed." Trev, there's no way a fox passed Freckles in a tunnel. The line would of had to swing around and back onto itself for a fox to get out ahead of him. That dog was as big as a springer spaniel, he couldn't let an animal get passed him if he wanted to. You guys read it wrong on the day. He dug a lot before and after ye had him. Bolting a fox was no trial of that dog and if ye had a genuine interest in keeping the old dog ye would have dug to him. The other 2 got multiple chances he got one? I know you guys jumped to the wrong conclusion with him. It was yer mistake and ye haven't recognised it yet. It mightn't seem important to yous, but reading a dig wrong and faulting a dog can be pretty serious for the dog. Butty , i do not know how much dig you done or do ! BUT , there is huge tunnels in some of the large sprawling spots i do regular , where a lurcher can fit into. Yes, i have seen lurchers go to ground , . I've dug out foxhounds more than once. Well , then the terrier in question could/may have let a fox past him !Surely he cannot be no-where near as big as a foxhound ! Ive seen hounds up tubes but I've never seen a fox get past a hound in a tube. Did a fox get past your lurcher in the tube??!! I'm saying if a fox bolted with a lurcher in the tube then it didn't go past the lurcher it came out a different line to the same entrance. That's the question bud. 1 Quote Link to post
turkish 289 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 look mate the dogs were shit get over it not first and surely not last so get a grip on yourself snd let go. dont be trying to make excuses for the dogs end of. can a mod delete this thread cause its getting ridiculously boring and repetitive. 2 Quote Link to post
Glyn..... 5,208 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 i agree lol Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) . Edited June 28, 2013 by neil cooney 2 Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 look mate the dogs were shit get over it not first and surely not last so get a grip on yourself snd let go. dont be trying to make excuses for the dogs end of. can a mod delete this thread cause its getting ridiculously boring and repetitive. Turkish you seem to find it hard to follow this thread, not to mind understand what can go on underground. Myself, Fatman, Neil , Corkonian, Corkman, Shylock and Smasher all saw the dog working for years before and after Trev bolted a fox with him. Auldboy on here shouting the dog walked? Dog never walked in his long life. You guys have no value on a working dog. No idea. Delete the thread, shoot the dog, quick, quick,quick... Don't think too deeply on things, dogs no good get another one, quick, quick,quick.... The dog was a good dog, nothing great no legend. Worked honestly from 18 months to 12. But real digging men strive all their lives to breed, develop and preserve good dogs. Not everyone buys in and sells dogs or discards them on a whim. Terriermen place real value on a good dog. You boys are only in this for a laugh. Ye should have shot him when ye had the chance because then he wouldn't have shown up guys that can't tell what a good dogs is. Ye'd take a dogs with 6 seasons under his belt and shoot him without even digging to him? FFS Then ye are on here crying that money and the KC have ruined working terriers? Delete the thread, who gives a f**k about an honest working terrier 13 Quote Link to post
Aeron 43 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Quote Trev ", I was present hen he let a fox past him, which I would not have believed was I not present because of the size of the dog. He must have let it past due to his big size the fox would not have been able to get passed." Trev, there's no way a fox passed Freckles in a tunnel. The line would of had to swing around and back onto itself for a fox to get out ahead of him. That dog was as big as a springer spaniel, he couldn't let an animal get passed him if he wanted to. You guys read it wrong on the day. He dug a lot before and after ye had him. Bolting a fox was no trial of that dog and if ye had a genuine interest in keeping the old dog ye would have dug to him. The other 2 got multiple chances he got one? I know you guys jumped to the wrong conclusion with him. It was yer mistake and ye haven't recognised it yet. It mightn't seem important to yous, but reading a dig wrong and faulting a dog can be pretty serious for the dog. Butty , i do not know how much dig you done or do ! BUT , there is huge tunnels in some of the large sprawling spots i do regular , where a lurcher can fit into. Yes, i have seen lurchers go to ground , . I've dug out foxhounds more than once. Well , then the terrier in question could/may have let a fox past him !Surely he cannot be no-where near as big as a foxhound ! Ive seen hounds up tubes but I've never seen a fox get past a hound in a tube. Did a fox get past your lurcher in the tube??!! I'm saying if a fox bolted with a lurcher in the tube then it didn't go past the lurcher it came out a different line to the same entrance. That's the question bud. I have seen foxes get past big dogs in huge tunneled berries ! I have also seen terrier fastened to fox in a huge hole ended tunnel , an the fox turn the whole way around , an get infront of the dog ! I am not saying the dog did let the fox past , Bry ! AND , yes ...... I agree , put the topic to bed , . Quote Link to post
turkish 289 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 look mate the dogs were shit get over it not first and surely not last so get a grip on yourself snd let go. dont be trying to make excuses for the dogs end of. can a mod delete this thread cause its getting ridiculously boring and repetitive. Turkish you seem to find it hard to follow this thread, not to mind understand what can go on underground. Myself, Fatman, Neil , Corkonian, Corkman, Shylock and Smasher all saw the dog working for years before and after Trev bolted a fox with him. Auldboy on here shouting the dog walked? Dog never walked in his long life. You guys have no value on a working dog. No idea. Delete the thread, shoot the dog, quick, quick,quick... Don't think too deeply on things, dogs no good get another one, quick, quick,quick.... The dog was a good dog, nothing great no legend. Worked honestly from 18 months to 12. But real digging men strive all their lives to breed, develop and preserve good dogs. Not everyone buys in and sells dogs or discards them on a whim. Terriermen place real value on a good dog. You boys are only in this for a laugh. Ye should have shot him when ye had the chance because then he wouldn't have shown up guys that can't tell what a good dogs is. Ye'd take a dogs with 6 seasons under his belt and shoot him without even digging to him? FFS Then ye are on here crying that money and the KC have ruined working terriers? Delete the thread, who gives a f**k about an honest working terrier bryan let me just fill in few blanks for ye seems you find it so hard to acceppt things.ive never bought and sold terriers so you obviously have me mixed up with someone else. so wat your saying is iys the people that bought this dog failed the dog and not the dog that failed them. is it so hard for you to accept the dog failed. just a quick question for you bryan since your so high up on your values were did this "HONEST WORKER" end up. Quote Link to post
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