lurcherman84 0 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 looking for a good first cross collie greyhound, how would you rate hancocks Quote Link to post
Chid 6,493 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Personally I wouldn't line the pockets of a puppy farmer 2 Quote Link to post
ferret features 289 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 At least ule get a first x of him.some good some not you pays yer money n takes yer chances. Quote Link to post
johnny 2 367 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 He breeds the very best Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 looking for a good first cross collie greyhound, how would you rate hancocks He,she,breeds enough,with the law of averages they are bound to produce some decent,some duffers.Pay the dollar and take your chance,or,source stock that as generations of workers in the parentage and take less of a gamble. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 looking for a good first cross collie greyhound, how would you rate hancocks He,she,breeds enough,with the law of averages they are bound to produce some decent,some duffers.Pay the dollar and take your chance,or,source stock that as generations of workers in the parentage and take less of a gamble. where from??? 1 Quote Link to post
derbylad1 293 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Go on mate...open another big can of worms....lol..just joking. I've had one, and i have her daughter right here at my feet. Neither world beaters, but both filled the bag well for me, however, personally i'd never have another. If you want a first cross collie/grey then you know thats what you'll get from hancock. But parents are not proven(actually never get any work) and they're not socialised, so do end up up with a dog that has issues. But thats not every dog. Go to someone, (plenty of them about) that has a litter from proven parents and have had a better start in life. What do you want from your new lurcher mate? Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 looking for a good first cross collie greyhound, how would you rate hancocks He,she,breeds enough,with the law of averages they are bound to produce some decent,some duffers.Pay the dollar and take your chance,or,source stock that as generations of workers in the parentage and take less of a gamble. where from??? I personally know of 2 lads that have owner bred Border bred lurchers,1/2 and 3/4 bred,non Hancock,ones in Stanbury,w.yorks,ones in Skipton,n.yorks.Unfortunately they only rarely breed,not in it for the dollar.There will be many others,its a case of doing some homework or taking the easier option.I have little interest in breeding a Border cross again,but,ive been noting the progress of a Border dog over the last 3 years,worked 7 days a week on a farm,the dog never ceases to amaze me with its work ethic and sheer determination,it stands at about 24" and oozes class and quality,it may possibly never come to anything,but if ever a dog was born to further a line of Collie bred lurchers,well?. Quote Link to post
omegathelast 160 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 looking for a good first cross collie greyhound, how would you rate hancocks If you are looking for one now and can't find anything suitable, I would take a look at a Hancock. Personally I think some of the border half crosses in particular look fine, in fact some look great. There have been many good working Hancock's over the years and you will know exactly what you are getting. The do take some pride in what they do and even though I personally have a bit of difficulty with the ethics of commercial dog breeding I think they offer decent collie lurchers. My freind has a lovely 5/8ths 3/8ths beardie border pup and she is coming along fine, is well put together physically, has plenty of natural hunting instinct, is learning and socialising well and will undoubtably be a good worker in a couple of seasons. Good luck with your search........ Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 i seen a few, an only 1 i rated, he was a beardie x an im sure he was 3/8ths, id have to ask, he was an old dog by time i seen him, but i know he was a good un all his life.. the rest i have seen are not even worthy of a mention Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Well I like mine. Couldn`t care less about all the bullshit opinions from folk who have never owned them. 4 Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Well I like mine. Couldn`t care less about all the bullshit opinions from folk who have never owned them. Well I like mine. Couldn`t care less about all the bullshit opinions from folk who have never owned them. looks like a fine dog to me mate. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I personally wouldnt go to him, but like has been said, with all that are bred, some will be very good, many average and some very poor. If you are after a genuine first x, t the end of the day you are unlikely to get one out of a working grey and hunting collie anyway, so the collies and greys he uses are probably as good as owt else about. But it just doesnt sit right with me, the way it's all done. Having said that, i've spent a long time trying to find a decent collie lurcher pup for myself and i'm still searching, they are like hens teeth, because every fecker just goes to hancock, and those that have lines of their own keep them close and breed rarely. What i don't get is, if hancock produces so many dogs, and so many of them are good (as we are told on here), then why have i only ever met one dog, that was bred out of two dogs from hancocks kennels that were then tested hard, found to be top, and mated??? Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Well I like mine. Couldn`t care less about all the bullshit opinions from folk who have never owned them. Well I like mine. Couldn`t care less about all the bullshit opinions from folk who have never owned them. looks like a fine dog to me mate. Cheers bud, he has filled out nicely and is quick, faster than I expected even, so hopefully this year will see him do good. He`s clever enough for sure. Quote Link to post
Guest Aardvark Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 at least you know what your getting if i wanted one i would go an get it Quote Link to post
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