Tail docking ....

[newcomer88 86]

Does anyone know of any vets in Kent prepared to do it cheers

[marshman 7,758]

There's one In folkstone that'll do it. I don't know the addy as I've never used them but if you ring around local to that area, I'm sure you'll find out which one it is. Also you'll need a written letter saying that you will be working your terriers to ground from a gamekeeper or the landowner!

[paulus 26]

  On 21/05/2012 at 13:19, marshman said:

There's one In folkstone that'll do it. I don't know the addy as I've never used them but if you ring around local to that area, I'm sure you'll find out which one it is. Also you'll need a written letter saying that you will be working your terriers to ground from a gamekeeper or the landowner!

a shotgun certificate will do read here

Puppies from certain working dogs may be docked if evidence is provided to the vet that it is likely to be worked in connection with law enforcement, activities of Her Majesty’s Armed Forces, emergency rescue, lawful pest control, or the lawful shooting of animals. It is accepted that in a litter, not all puppies docked will be found suitable for work.

 

The owner of the dog, or person representing the owner must make a signed statement that, the dam of the puppies to be docked is of a type which can be certified as set out below, the date on which the puppies were born and that it is intended that they will be used, or sold, for one of the working purposes set out in the regulations.

 

The vet must sign a declaration that the requirements of the regulations have been satisfied i.e. that he has been given the necessary declaration by the owner or person representing the owner and has seen the evidence required.

 

The vet must have a completed statement, signed and dated by the owner of the dog (or by another person whom the veterinary surgeon to whom it is presented reasonably believes to be representing the owner), made in the form set out in the regulations. The vet must see the dam of the dog and a further piece of evidence such as:

a current shotgun or firearm certificate issued to the owner of the dog, or to the agent or employee of the owner most likely to be using the dog for work in connection with the lawful shooting of animals OR

a letter from a gamekeeper, a land occupier (or his agent), a person with shooting rights, a shoot organiser, a club official, a person representing the National Working Terrier Federation, or a person engaged in lawful pest control, stating that the breeder of the dog whose tail is to be docked is known to him and that dogs bred by that breeder have been used (as the case may be) on his land, or in his shoot, or for pest control.

 

Although the procedure is the same, the list of dogs which can be docked are different between England and Wales. There is a total ban on docking in Scotland.

 

In England the following can be docked:

 

1. Hunt point retrieve breeds of any type or combination of types.

 

2. Spaniels of any type or combination of types.

 

3. Terriers of any type or combination of types.

 

In Wales the following can be docked:

 

1. Spaniels of the following breeds: English Springer Spaniel, Welsh Springer Spaniel and Cocker Spaniel, but not combinations of breeds

 

2. Terriers of the following breeds: Jack Russell Terrier, Cairn Terrier, Lakeland Terrier, Norfolk Terrier, but not combinations of breeds

 

3. Hunt point retrievers of the following breeds:

 

Braque Italian, Brittany, German Long Haired Pointer, German Short Haired Pointer, German Wire Haired Pointer, Hungarian Vizsla, Hungarian Wire Haired Vizsla, Italian Spinone, Spanish Water Dog, Weimaraner, Korthals Griffon, Slovakian Rough Haired Pointer, Large Munsterlander, Small Munsterlander.

 

It remains the prerogative of a veterinary surgeon as to whether he chooses to dock a dog’s tail or not.

 

Showing of Docked Dogs

 

A dog docked before the 28 March 2007 in Wales and 6 April 2007 in England may continue to be shown at all shows in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland throughout its natural life.

 

A dog docked on, or after, the above dates, irrespective of where it was docked, may not be shown at shows in England and Wales where the public is charged a fee for admission.

 

However, where a working dog has been docked in England and Wales under the respective regulations set out above, it may be shown where the public are charged a fee, so long as it is shown “only to demonstrate its working ability”. It will thus be necessary to show working dogs in such a way as ONLY to demonstrate their working ability and not conformity to a standard.

A dog legally docked in England, Wales, Northern Ireland or abroad may be shown at any show in Scotland or Northern Ireland.

[marshman 7,758]

Oh yer one of them as well lol!! A mate of mine got it done. The vet apologised for asking for all the relevant paper work but it's what he has to do by law! Not sure how much he charged per pup but think it was about £15. Shame me ole man used to do it for nowt!

[young man 225]

I done it myself mate and im 13 12 then I got a bowl of flour a the tails 2 inch long so I took about a cm off and the tails turned out a good shape

[patterdalejoel 669]

  On 21/05/2012 at 19:20, young man said:

I done it myself mate and im 13 12 then I got a bowl of flour a the tails 2 inch long so I took about a cm off and the tails turned out a good shape

 

13 and your docking tails? what did you use?

[tillearthdouspart 100]

Fair play to ya young man ,no messing about get the job done. it ain't that complicated .

[Peter4190 95]

Good man Joel and u even used the flour

[bradclifton 1]

i know nothing about docking puppy tails..however i do know about docking lambs tails, can you not use the same method I.E Banding at 2 days old.

[young man 225]

  On 21/05/2012 at 19:26, patterdalejoel said:

  On 21/05/2012 at 19:20, young man said:

I done it myself mate and im 13 12 then I got a bowl of flour a the tails 2 inch long so I took about a cm off and the tails turned out a good shape

 

13 and your docking tails? what did you use?

REALY SHARP sacatears it was done cleanly and quickly

[young man 225]

  On 21/05/2012 at 19:57, tillearthdouspart said:

Fair play to ya young man ,no messing about get the job done. it ain't that complicated .

QUICKLY AND CLEANLY MATE

[danny300 2,240]

  On 21/05/2012 at 19:20, young man said:

I done it myself mate and im 13 12 then I got a bowl of flour a the tails 2 inch long so I took about a cm off and the tails turned out a good shape

how many was in the litter bud

[k94v 12]

my bitch bites her pups tails of nice size to

[matthews 88 77]

  On 21/05/2012 at 20:45, bradclifton said:

i know nothing about docking puppy tails..however i do know about docking lambs tails, can you not use the same method I.E Banding at 2 days old.

you can and they work but a bit to big some of them tend to slip you have to keep an eye on the ring make sure its on correctly Edited May 21, 2012 by matthews 88

[newcomer88 86]

I want to do it myself , but the of few of the pups may not end up in working homes I hope she has a smaller litter so it's not the case , but I've heard if you get reported the fine is around 2 grand ??