The longer the course the better the dog, why??(Ireland)

[killing crew 2,708]

i havent read the 9 pages of what other lads opinains are but imo its nice to know that your dog can run for atleast 5 mins as you know one time they could just get that strong hare thats good enough to out do them. nice if there all around the 2 or 3 min mark but not always like that

[killing crew 2,708]

I have a 3/4 bred saluki/grey and he kills in small paddocks where I live round Durham area and kills on the fens I no for a fact he would kill where you lads run imo you just need the right hearted dog he will smash through hedges fly over any gate or fence jump any ditch I put it all down to heart

where did you get that dog

[SMART DOG 340]

I have a 3/4 bred saluki/grey and he kills in small paddocks where I live round Durham area and kills on the fens I no for a fact he would kill where you lads run imo you just need the right hearted dog he will smash through hedges fly over any gate or fence jump any ditch I put it all down to heart

where did you get that dog

its a secret pal ha

[brendy mc l 694]

how many lads who hunt here in ireland think the hares r strong enough to last 6 mins of pressure as theyre not used to getting run for that lenght of time

[gorger 977]

Totally agree frank a good dog won't let hare get 6 mins I thk only time you see a 6 min race if you get a hare dosnt know wheree he going with aa dog with no mouth behind it you bee surprised a long a run is to watch if its 3 mins

[mohamad 29]

how many lads who hunt here in ireland think the hares r strong enough to last 6 mins of pressure as theyre not used to getting run for that lenght of time

who has a dog that can pressurie a hare for that length of time id like to see him dont think hes in ireland or england half of them english dogs skipin about doing fuckall with the hare Edited May 21, 2012 by mohamad

[speedie 329]

I have a 3/4 bred saluki/grey and he kills in small paddocks where I live round Durham area and kills on the fens I no for a fact he would kill where you lads run imo you just need the right hearted dog he will smash through hedges fly over any gate or fence jump any ditch I put it all down to heart

Not alot of people mention heart when talking about coursing dogs IMHO its the number one thing in a dog far more important than height or lenth or the way their breed if the heard is their yea have some thing to work with JMO

[SMART DOG 340]

I have a 3/4 bred saluki/grey and he kills in small paddocks where I live round Durham area and kills on the fens I no for a fact he would kill where you lads run imo you just need the right hearted dog he will smash through hedges fly over any gate or fence jump any ditch I put it all down to heart

Not alot of people mention heart when talking about coursing dogs IMHO its the number one thing in a dog far more important than height or lenth or the way their breed if the heard is their yea have some thing to work with JMO

a good heart will compensate where the dog may lack. ok they do need stamina speed etc but if they ain't got a good heart it not going to do well consistently no matter whether it runs fields fens or moorland

[weasle 1,119]

Cannot beat watching a sprinter running if its quarry gets out the feild good luck to it let it run another day.

[baw 4,360]

I think the reason folk brag about 6 minute courses is because there aren't many dogs apart from your saluki crosses capable of doing it nevermind consistently. It is impressive no doubt about it, we would all love our speed bombs to have that stamina in the tank but like everything in life, you don't get anything without an opposite effect. For stamina you lose speed, that's the pay off unfortunately. So it all boils down to the terrain you run. A fast dog will catch hares anywhere, might not catch everyone but where would the fun be in that? Salukis are definitely the answer on big land if your aim is simply killing hares and not enjoying the thrills and spills faster types bring. It's like watching Ronnie osullivan against Steve Davis, Ronnie can win in half the time with excitement whereas Steve is arguably harder to beat with his boring long winded play. Which is best? I suppose it's down to what you like. For me salukis are too preditable. Its almost feels like your cheating the hare. A hare only runs as fast as it's getting pushed, so it stands to reason on big land the dogs going to get on terms and with plenty of stamina will grind him down, whereas if it was a fast type dog, the hare will use his agility and cunningness to out do the dog, this is where the excitement lies and the reason why we all got into it in the first place. Hypothetically speaking, if you'd to slip a lurcher onto a saluki on bigland it would catch it 10/10 whereas slip a saluki onto a fast lurcher it would straight line it and die of exhaustion before the saluki caught up with it. But unfortunately for the hare, evolution hasn't taught him about these desert dogs and how to beat them. Which is best, the dog which can catch anywhere with speed or the plodder that needs to grind it out over several minutes? Which ever is at the end of your lead.

[Good Man 196]

im not a fan of whippet greys but in fairness they would kill hares where these big stamina dogs would fail to put a bend in a hare, and its the same with the saluki types they would kill hares where the whippet greys and types would just blow out.. so again i think its horses for courses, iv yet to see a dog master both real big land and real small land, i got a bitch back from england about 10 years ago from my uncle and she was a very good bitch in eng killilg 2 and 3 week in and week out and she just couldnt control a hare in ireland, i also gave him a bitch she was deerhound greyhound back to saluki greyhound and if she didnt kill a hare in england in 2 to 3 minutes she would blow out so again there are horses for courses..

 

Keep up the good work with them first crosses Banner man, should have plenty of fun with them come the season.

Looking forward to it and eventually, when i get set up, hopefully it will be happy days. ..

[killing crew 2,708]

I think the reason folk brag about 6 minute courses is because there aren't many dogs apart from your saluki crosses capable of doing it nevermind consistently. It is impressive no doubt about it, we would all love our speed bombs to have that stamina in the tank but like everything in life, you don't get anything without an opposite effect. For stamina you lose speed, that's the pay off unfortunately. So it all boils down to the terrain you run. A fast dog will catch hares anywhere, might not catch everyone but where would the fun be in that? Salukis are definitely the answer on big land if your aim is simply killing hares and not enjoying the thrills and spills faster types bring. It's like watching Ronnie osullivan against Steve Davis, Ronnie can win in half the time with excitement whereas Steve is arguably harder to beat with his boring long winded play. Which is best? I suppose it's down to what you like. For me salukis are too preditable. Its almost feels like your cheating the hare. A hare only runs as fast as it's getting pushed, so it stands to reason on big land the dogs going to get on terms and with plenty of stamina will grind him down, whereas if it was a fast type dog, the hare will use his agility and cunningness to out do the dog, this is where the excitement lies and the reason why we all got into it in the first place. Hypothetically speaking, if you'd to slip a lurcher onto a saluki on bigland it would catch it 10/10 whereas slip a saluki onto a fast lurcher it would straight line it and die of exhaustion before the saluki caught up with it. But unfortunately for the hare, evolution hasn't taught him about these desert dogs and how to beat them. Which is best, the dog which can catch anywhere with speed or the plodder that needs to grind it out over several minutes? Which ever is at the end of your lead.

and thats why lads have bred the saluki lurcher for a dog that can do both

[baw 4,360]

No it can't

[BLACKWATER... 157]

having had several saluk crosses over twenty years any way , what some say are plodders is only through vidoes you tube on big land were the dog knows whats happening maybe if some of the big land dogs ran smaller land alot they would soon learn that they cant hang about , saw dogs and had dogs runing in scotland , who no went to go up a gear to get qaurry away from hedge , cover , and some that are real fast but not as clever on a strong hare ,saw fast clever dogs bred clever pups as young as 9 months cutting a hare from cover pre ban ,the faster and more whippety ive found more feet injuries at times and tiol on soft going and long slips , there a diffrence from creeping up and kicking a hare up than a good slip ,one poaching a hare other is a fair course

[baw 4,360]

You can't put speed into a dog by running it on different terrain backwater. That's like me saying, maybe my speedbomb with gain stamina if it runs er big land. It works both ways but it sounds good and is used constantly by big land plodder owners. I'm not slating the plodders, they are the best for their chosen area but let's not pretend they are masters at all terrain but chose not too.