Breeding to bond with pups at early age...

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

I was talking to the missus about this last night, I mentioned getting the terrier spayed and she said we won't be able to have puppy's then. To which I said there were enough jack russels about the country!

 

She then went on to ask if I would ever want a pup off my lurcher - to which I really don't know and wouldn't want to say until I had worked her for a good couple of seasons.

 

We then got talking about advantages and disadvantages to breeding a litter and one thing she said (which I had never considered) was the advantage of being able to bond with a pup from a few days old and also know the litter really well and be able to pick your pup with more knowledge of the litter.

 

Has anyone bred a litter for this purpose?

 

I'm just curious so dont shoot me down saying im gonna breed from an untried dog bla bla bla. I've never had a litter in my life and don't plan to any time soon.

 

Cheers

 

Gaz

[shushycatcher 219]

you can bond just as well with a pup from 8 weeks mate,buy in from worling stock and watch the litter from an early age,its pot luck choosing at a young age anyway! And breeding pups well is expensive and hard work,atb shushy

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

That was one of the points I made, it being pot luck picking at early age.

 

I know a few lads who has bred litters and still kept 2 or 3 back because at 8 weeks they still weren't sure which one they wanted.

 

I think too many people breed without giving it any proper thought.

 

I would only breed a litter if my bitch was at the top of her game, I wanted a pup, mates wanted pups and there weren't any decent dogs of this breeding about.

 

And even then I would put my all into rearing the pups and gift them to decent lads who would stay in touch.

 

Gaz

[skycat 6,173]

I've had incredible bonds with pups I've picked as they were born, and also with dogs I've bought in as late as 12 weeks old: the bonding thing depends on you and how well you 'click' with the dog, and the amount of time and effort you put into the relationship. Even so, some dogs and owners will never get on really well due to either insufficient knowledge on the part of the owner, or incompatibility between dog and human.

[tomano1 80]

I speak from experience been breeding for the last ten years and come from a family off breading dogs it's good but not for the faint hearted the is a lot to consider mate if u have never done it I would look into it before going a head with it cos problems can happen and if u have never bread before u would not no what to do so bear this in mind ATB toma

[Good Man 196]

I've had incredible bonds with pups I've picked as they were born, and also with dogs I've bought in as late as 12 weeks old: the bonding thing depends on you and how well you 'click' with the dog, and the amount of time and effort you put into the relationship. Even so, some dogs and owners will never get on really well due to either insufficient knowledge on the part of the owner, or incompatibility between dog and human.

 

A prime example i think of this is, saluki saturated lurchers. Lot don't understand them and try and dominate them with over training, not a good thing to do. !

[paulus 26]

I speak from experience been breeding for the last ten years and come from a family off breading dogs it's good but not for the faint hearted the is a lot to consider mate if u have never done it I would look into it before going a head with it cos problems can happen and if u have never bread before u would not no what to do so bear this in mind ATB toma

this very true, when/if a problem occurs it can all become very expensive and heartbreaking very quickly. even if all goes right you still have responsibilities that you hadnt thought off. to rear a litter properly is not cheap and can be very time consuming.

[bunnys 1,228]

I have seen a nd taken welps very early to produce the strongest bond seen some taken at 4 5 weeks for this very reason amongst others . atb bunnys.

[storm323 191]

I hand reared a litter And hand a great early bound but as been sed not much difrence from a 8 week old pup.

[bunnys 1,228]

i would say thats a good point made by sky cat compatability on the type of animalhas a bearing on the outcome at times .atb bunnys.

[bunnys 1,228]

some types can take on board early training that some dont even consider untill a few mths old , seen some 6 7 weeks really listening and tuned in to the handler . atb bunnys.

[bunnys 1,228]

I was talking to the missus about this last night, I mentioned getting the terrier spayed and she said we won't be able to have puppy's then. To which I said there were enough jack russels about the country!

 

She then went on to ask if I would ever want a pup off my lurcher - to which I really don't know and wouldn't want to say until I had worked her for a good couple of seasons.

 

We then got talking about advantages and disadvantages to breeding a litter and one thing she said (which I had never considered) was the advantage of being able to bond with a pup from a few days old and also know the litter really well and be able to pick your pup with more knowledge of the litter.

 

Has anyone bred a litter for this purpose?

 

I'm just curious so dont shoot me down saying im gonna breed from an untried dog bla bla bla. I've never had a litter in my life and don't plan to any time soon.

 

Cheers

 

Gaz gareth it can be very rewarding breeding ones own replacement hunting companion , to do them right can be expensive . And one will need working home preferably for the surplus , choosing one fom ones own litter hcan only really be on preference the abilitys they have aquired are hidden , it can also be a pain in the back side when a couple catch the eye , i would think one hundred percent of ones time and input to one welp his far and away best , some keep 2 on only to usually move one on at a later date give it all to one and you wont go far wrong if thats what you deside to do . atb bunnys..

[birddog 1,354]

i think its a lot to do with time and effort put into a pup, many also bond better with the missus who feeds and tends while us hunter gatherer, provider men are at work, in an ideal world i'd spend lots of time with the litter whatever age and the pup will probably pick me

[skycat 6,173]

Gaz: I've sometimes run two pups on, and the one that initially took my eye later proves to be not quite what I want. Take the blonde sisters I bred, for example. Not a lot to choose between them as pups, but whilst the slightly more intelligent, thoughtful pup went on to be a terrific worker (after I'd let her go at a year old) the other has proved to be better physically in the long run, though slightly less driven. I actually let her go because I didn't like her front end movement, even though I liked her better out of the two: she now has wrist problems at 4 years old. There are so many factors to consider when analysing a pup's potential, and not all faults or good qualities are obvious in very young pups, even to the experienced eye.

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

Ive run pups on till their 4/5mths selling off pups that had traits I wasnt looking for early on: gender/markings/coat type/yapping/brains or lack of them (border collie litters) ive had litters where despite using a great sire there wasnt a single pup in the litter made my standards, I used an unknown stud and he produced great litter where 6/7 pups turned out fantastic looking workers, ive a bitch out if this pairing and she is better than both her sire and dam. I didnt "bond" with her properly until she was 5/6mths but to see her with us you wouldnt know that .