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[FUJI 17,327]

Excellent pics those Millet! I didn't even know you had Lil jumping yet? ATB Andy

[Millet 4,497]

She has been at it for a while Andy but i don't want to encourage or over do it for now,,just for the sake of the young bone's..most of the time i have to shout to stop her jumping till i open the gate or let her through a gap..

[Ideation 8,216]

Thankyou very much andy, the first bitch, was the one i had seen before, what a lovely stamp of dog.

 

Are there any photos of any of the other dogs (inc that black n white) as adults? Just wondering if they had dons stamp, or were racier / thicker set? And were there any pups that were thrown very much to the collie?

 

That litter is very nice mate, i especially like Scrappy doo, and the bitch that is being held?

 

Adonis certainly throws decent pups, well at least well put together, and from what i have heard, they are starting well? Do you think his pups such as reggie / chief. will better him? I.E do you think he throws better than himself or do you think he is 'special' if that makes sense?

[minshaw man 111]

Well,let's hope you get a bit of luck with the mutts this year mate..because i bet you couldn't wait to see the back of the past year or so when it comes to dogs? Fingers crossed you get summat useful to go to war with come September ..and Minshaw Man this is old Kelsey at 14 years plus...typical woman,the once fine figure she once had long since gone :laugh: ..thats what old age does for you ...ATB Andy.

 

nice pic mate

[FUJI 17,327]

I've always been of the opinion Jai that he will throw a better pup than himself? After all he is over 1/2 Collie with the remainder lurcher,in theory you would think almost ANY lurcher put back to him would have more to offer than he? I know that won't be the case EVERYTIME but it's just common sense isn't it? I hoped that he could serve a purpose in the field and IMO he does that,I always stated that he would make a useful baseline for breeding lurchers,pure sighthounds,1/2 x's or 3/4 breds or just lurcher x lurchers he may just throw better than average when it comes to a lamping,mooching,ferreting dog etc: time will tell if he is going to be "special" but if I had to have a guess now I'd say watch this space haha..ATB Andy

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I've always been of the opinion Jai that he will throw a better pup than himself? After all he is over 1/2 Collie with the remainder lurcher,in theory you would think almost ANY lurcher put back to him would have more to offer than he? I know that won't be the case EVERYTIME but it's just common sense isn't it? I hoped that he could serve a purpose in the field and IMO he does that,I always stated that he would make a useful baseline for breeding lurchers,pure sighthounds,1/2 x's or 3/4 breds or just lurcher x lurchers he may just throw better than average when it comes to a lamping,mooching,ferreting dog etc: time will tell if he is going to be "special" but if I had to have a guess now I'd say watch this space haha..ATB Andy

 

Cheers for the reply, and genetics are funny old things, as you know. You could do the same breeding again, and end up with a collie. if that makes sense? Percentages are not the be all and end all. I mean on paper a 5/8 collie shouldnt be able to get near some of the stuff that Adonis does. I know what you are saying in that physically when put to any runner, the pups should have more to offer than himself, but im not so sure, well, not for ANY runner, as like we have said before, speed isnt that important, as long as the dog is 'fast enough', and how fast, fast enough, is, depends on land / quarry etc. You could mate him to a nice racy bitch, and the pups lack strike, wind etc, and that would be much more of a detriment, and not worth, the bonus of giving you racier animals. But then i guess that is all academic, cos i know that you would not use, just 'any' dog. So i think you are right in saying that, if you can combine him, with a racier bitch, that has a complementry skill set, the litter may just hold one or two beasts, that far exceed the capabilitys of either dam or sire. I guess in a few years we will know if you have both a truly top class worker, and a truly top class producer (or should i say another).

[hedge mumper 78]

Cracking lot of dogs. Great picks of that little pup coming on millit. There's one landed on there feet. Some nice stuff to take forward. Atb lads.

[freelance 448]

Andy, first off, what a crackin thred, thank you, next to the Seagull one they are THE best threds posted on lurchers on here and long may it run unhinderd..

 

Just thinking back to the dogs of the line that came to this city, OBO, Traveller etc and the first I seen run, the one BMc brought down who's name escapes me(?) what light can you shed on them?

OBOE'' was M.R dog from liverpool.. TRAVELER'' was J.F dog also from liverpool.. NIGGER'' also ended up in liverpool to with JMc... nigger was the father to the MICKY'' dog that was here' think JMc kept MICKYS litter brother a dog called NODGGER'' A.S from round these parts also owned a good' MINSHAW cross n i think it was called NIPPER'' but i remember M.R teling me he had a beter minshaw dog than OBOE'' at first a dog called JACK'' witch i think he got off minshaw himself... hope the info helps... .ATB..B

 

Good stuff Busher ..i can recall M R's dog Jack we called him Black Jack up these neck of the woods,he occasionally brought it back up the M6 to Vic's,he was not unlike the dog i also had called Jack ..ATB Andy.

Here,s a pic of black jack on left and blue on right Atb

[johnny boy68 11,726]

Heres Bron, she's starting to shape up nice, showing some great early signs that I think if they equate into her working life she'll make a great mooching companion , she's very driven even at 6 months, oozes confidence and character all in all a well rounded lurcher.

 

Happy times ahead me thinks.

 

[FUJI 17,327]

Andy, first off, what a crackin thred, thank you, next to the Seagull one they are THE best threds posted on lurchers on here and long may it run unhinderd..

 

Just thinking back to the dogs of the line that came to this city, OBO, Traveller etc and the first I seen run, the one BMc brought down who's name escapes me(?) what light can you shed on them?

OBOE'' was M.R dog from liverpool.. TRAVELER'' was J.F dog also from liverpool.. NIGGER'' also ended up in liverpool to with JMc... nigger was the father to the MICKY'' dog that was here' think JMc kept MICKYS litter brother a dog called NODGGER'' A.S from round these parts also owned a good' MINSHAW cross n i think it was called NIPPER'' but i remember M.R teling me he had a beter minshaw dog than OBOE'' at first a dog called JACK'' witch i think he got off minshaw himself... hope the info helps... .ATB..B

 

Good stuff Busher ..i can recall M R's dog Jack we called him Black Jack up these neck of the woods,he occasionally brought it back up the M6 to Vic's,he was not unlike the dog i also had called Jack ..ATB Andy.

Here,s a pic of black jack on left and blue on right Atb

 

Where you been hiding that pic at? .. He was a much bigger dog than Blue just as my dog Jack was,looked very similar to my fella..is that Vic with the dogs? Just looks like the hat he used to wear ...ATB Andy.

[frankel 2,123]

SWIFT

[frankel 2,123]

this is a bitch we had called MILLIE, which sadly got killed running a big rabbit in the day.. her sire was JACK and her dam was called BAMBI. she was starting to develop into a nice little bitch

[killa-combo 142]

Here's the "part-time" ferreter again lol..the Don dog...

 

heres another pic of don ferreting not to clear as taken from a vidio

[FUJI 17,327]

I tried to turn pic around Lee but it never worked :icon_redface: so here goes again lol

 

Don

Edited June 27, 2012 by poacherspocket22

[storm323 191]

Great thread this does don have more than half collie then? How's his speed I had a 5/8th collie she was a nice bitch just never got to test her as she died at one and a half.You have had some cracking dogs by the looks of it andy a great line of lurcher.