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Max you just look after England Expects .. I have him in my plans..these lot ain't got a clue haha

No disrespect Andy but if you did go down the line of a grey would you use a track dog?????

Or would you use a dog that's been tested in the field as there are many out there.

I feel as it would hold 50% of the next off springs genes I would want to know more then just how fast it can run in a straight line.

But hey that's just my opinion

[FUJI 17,327]

Max you just look after England Expects .. I have him in my plans..these lot ain't got a clue haha

No disrespect Andy but if you did go down the line of a grey would you use a track dog?????

Or would you use a dog that's been tested in the field as there are many out there.

I feel as it would hold 50% of the next off springs genes I would want to know more then just how fast it can run in a straight line.

But hey that's just my opinion

 

Nigh on all Greyhounds will kill ANYTHING and that goes for track dogs too,if they run for 3 or 4 years chasing nothing other than an imitation rabbit or a rag with a bag tied to it believe you me they will destroy anything with a pulse..like i said earlier i've mated one Greyhound with the Bulpa dog she was just a track bitch bred out of Whisper Wishes the English Derby winner and the last to win at the famous White City Stadium,my brother owned one and so did my brother in law both those would and did kill ANYTHING infact the bitch Blaze who was only small herself took a red hind that ANY bull x would of been proud to have taken down,both them dogs would smash a fox,Jack mated a bitch also a track bitch who ran at A2 level,our Dean has Sox from the litter,she too will kill ANYTHING and i know one or two more are the same way inclined...i've owned Greyhounds in the past that have killed themselves at the drop off point (end of a race) trying to kill a dummy lol...imo most of the Greyhounds that end up doing a bit in the field are just rubbing rags that ain't worth a toss at racing and just need rehomed and owners are just glad to be rid?...the quality racers usually wouldn't be cast aside and given a chance to go to graft in the fields but you could bet your bottom dollar they would be more than capable of matching the feats of their lesser comrades/...ATB Andy.

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This was Ginny as a pup around 9 month old when we got her off Joe..having a game of rough and tumble with our Pomeranian

 

 

thought it was ginny and don

[birddog 1,354]

Max you just look after England Expects .. I have him in my plans..these lot ain't got a clue haha

No disrespect Andy but if you did go down the line of a grey would you use a track dog?????

Or would you use a dog that's been tested in the field as there are many out there.

I feel as it would hold 50% of the next off springs genes I would want to know more then just how fast it can run in a straight line.

But hey that's just my opinion

 

Nigh on all Greyhounds will kill ANYTHING and that goes for track dogs too,if they run for 3 or 4 years chasing nothing other than an imitation rabbit or a rag with a bag tied to it believe you me they will destroy anything with a pulse..like i said earlier i've mated one Greyhound with the Bulpa dog she was just a track bitch bred out of Whisper Wishes the English Derby winner and the last to win at the famous White City Stadium,my brother owned one and so did my brother in law both those would and did kill ANYTHING infact the bitch Blaze who was only small herself took a red hind that ANY bull x would of been proud to have taken down,both them dogs would smash a fox,Jack mated a bitch also a track bitch who ran at A2 level,our Dean has Sox from the litter,she too will kill ANYTHING and i know one or two more are the same way inclined...i've owned Greyhounds in the past that have killed themselves at the drop off point (end of a race) trying to kill a dummy lol...imo most of the Greyhounds that end up doing a bit in the field are just rubbing rags that ain't worth a toss at racing and just need rehomed and owners are just glad to be rid?...the quality racers usually wouldn't be cast aside and given a chance to go to graft in the fields but you could bet your bottom dollar they would be more than capable of matching the feats of their lesser comrades/...ATB Andy.

 

a while ago there was a thread on here arguing about the rights and wrongs of using pure greyhound, and i said the very same thing i've seen greyhounds that were absolute demons fine if its a fox but years ago i saw an odd pound dog that mass produced venison mince

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Max you just look after England Expects .. I have him in my plans..these lot ain't got a clue haha

No disrespect Andy but if you did go down the line of a grey would you use a track dog?????

Or would you use a dog that's been tested in the field as there are many out there.

I feel as it would hold 50% of the next off springs genes I would want to know more then just how fast it can run in a straight line.

But hey that's just my opinion

 

Nigh on all Greyhounds will kill ANYTHING and that goes for track dogs too,if they run for 3 or 4 years chasing nothing other than an imitation rabbit or a rag with a bag tied to it believe you me they will destroy anything with a pulse..like i said earlier i've mated one Greyhound with the Bulpa dog she was just a track bitch bred out of Whisper Wishes the English Derby winner and the last to win at the famous White City Stadium,my brother owned one and so did my brother in law both those would and did kill ANYTHING infact the bitch Blaze who was only small herself took a red hind that ANY bull x would of been proud to have taken down,both them dogs would smash a fox,Jack mated a bitch also a track bitch who ran at A2 level,our Dean has Sox from the litter,she too will kill ANYTHING and i know one or two more are the same way inclined...i've owned Greyhounds in the past that have killed themselves at the drop off point (end of a race) trying to kill a dummy lol...imo most of the Greyhounds that end up doing a bit in the field are just rubbing rags that ain't worth a toss at racing and just need rehomed and owners are just glad to be rid?...the quality racers usually wouldn't be cast aside and given a chance to go to graft in the fields but you could bet your bottom dollar they would be more than capable of matching the feats of their lesser comrades/...ATB Andy.

See I would disagree. I know a few people who run Greys and only Greys in the field and they have a completely different view to the above. Yea your right alot will tackel more then what you'd expect but I can promise not all stand the test of time. My dad himself has wasted ends of money and a decade of his life trying to get the right grey in the field. I've seen many start jibbing on teeth after a few years same as on roe, I would want something that stood test of time on the quarry I want it for before I went over anything. People have the miss conception that there a kill all type animal but there not. My dad now has a grey dog spent 1800 on it from Ireland at 14 month old seems to be doing ok last season but weather it will stand up to the test as the years go by we'l see.

[hedz31 1,308]

Max you just look after England Expects .. I have him in my plans..these lot ain't got a clue haha

No disrespect Andy but if you did go down the line of a grey would you use a track dog?????

Or would you use a dog that's been tested in the field as there are many out there.

I feel as it would hold 50% of the next off springs genes I would want to know more then just how fast it can run in a straight line.

But hey that's just my opinion

 

Nigh on all Greyhounds will kill ANYTHING and that goes for track dogs too,if they run for 3 or 4 years chasing nothing other than an imitation rabbit or a rag with a bag tied to it believe you me they will destroy anything with a pulse..like i said earlier i've mated one Greyhound with the Bulpa dog she was just a track bitch bred out of Whisper Wishes the English Derby winner and the last to win at the famous White City Stadium,my brother owned one and so did my brother in law both those would and did kill ANYTHING infact the bitch Blaze who was only small herself took a red hind that ANY bull x would of been proud to have taken down,both them dogs would smash a fox,Jack mated a bitch also a track bitch who ran at A2 level,our Dean has Sox from the litter,she too will kill ANYTHING and i know one or two more are the same way inclined...i've owned Greyhounds in the past that have killed themselves at the drop off point (end of a race) trying to kill a dummy lol...imo most of the Greyhounds that end up doing a bit in the field are just rubbing rags that ain't worth a toss at racing and just need rehomed and owners are just glad to be rid?...the quality racers usually wouldn't be cast aside and given a chance to go to graft in the fields but you could bet your bottom dollar they would be more than capable of matching the feats of their lesser comrades/...ATB Andy.

See I would disagree. I know a few people who run Greys and only Greys in the field and they have a completely different view to the above. Yea your right alot will tackel more then what you'd expect but I can promise not all stand the test of time. My dad himself has wasted ends of money and a decade of his life trying to get the right grey in the field. I've seen many start jibbing on teeth after a few years same as on roe, I would want something that stood test of time on the quarry I want it for before I went over anything. People have the miss conception that there a kill all type animal but there not. My dad now has a grey dog spent 1800 on it from Ireland at 14 month old seems to be doing ok last season but weather it will stand up to the test as the years go by we'l see.

I agree with alot of that mate they dont seem to last at all

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See I would disagree. I know a few people who run Greys and only Greys in the field and they have a completely different view to the above.

 

There you go then if they don't agree with me and your old man has tried ten year and spent a small fortune doesn't it prove his way ain't working?

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FFS max my views and opinions are no secret and plain for all to see on here, just let it go :laugh:

[hedz31 1,308]

How in the hell can you be so against puttin a straight grey back in the mix but support a straight collie?

I'll shall answer that in my previous reply I stated that the only people patting these lads on the back either have pups or have had a stud you come under that. Last ill say.

 

Happy fathers day folks.

 

Can you read? I said I would not add pure to my dogs be that collie, greyhound or bull. What I have said is I would CONSIDER using a lurcher i have seen run which was sired by a pure greyhound . I would also CONSIDER using one sired by a pure collie or bull. BUT I would look else where in a line 1st, is that plain enough for you to understand? or are you going to try and twist what I say again!

 

So Joe you would consider a first X Lurcher-Greyhound.

 

Where do these first crosses come from ?

 

Either a Greyhound Sire or a Greyhound dam.

 

Like i say somewhere along the line someone has to use a Greyhound Stud or a Greyhound bitch.

 

Anyone wanting to use a Greyhound Stud you wont do better than England Expects.

 

Tell you what lads his blood is FREE if anyone does require Greyhound blood.

 

If your a Southerner Razzmatazz is down Cardiff , same blood as England Expects and a Ledger Finalist.

 

Think his fee is £150 ( EDRD)

Your fecking thick nobody has ever said they dont ffs read back on what anybody has said about them WELL ESTABLISHED LINE was what was said

[FUJI 17,327]

Dan & Rambo two dogs sired by Blue and dams who were by Nipper (Blue's sire) x Greyhound but from different litters ...ATB Andy.

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[FUJI 17,327]

Dan (Blue x Darkie)

Edited June 28, 2012 by poacherspocket22

[FUJI 17,327]

Dan (Blue x Darkie) & Bulpa (Blue x Collie)

Edited June 28, 2012 by poacherspocket22

[Guest bigdaddylongchopper]

max can your ghound take rabbit hare fox and deer,if not why use them,theres only a matter of seconds between a great ghound and a shit one

[Guest bigdaddylongchopper]

yours max if it worked,but i wouldnt use any dog just because it was fastest around a track.

[FUJI 17,327]

max can your ghound take rabbit hare fox and deer,if not why use them,theres only a matter of seconds between a great ghound and a shit one

 

How many Bull's have seen anything? How many pure Saluki's have done alot? Collie's,Wheaton's,Malamute's,Alsation's and just about every other conceivable pure bred mutt that get's bred from these days?...a low percentage i'd bet?..bred back to a Greyhound or Whippet whether they have seen live stuff or not then you will get a dog capable of being some use as a lurcher imo? Yes or no? ATB Andy.